Is God sending people straight to hell when they die, today?

[Keiw]

Revelation 20.

Yes rev 20 is the resurrected--1000 years satan is abyssed-those get an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will with no satan influence. The reason satan gets loosed for a little while is to test the resurrected ones. The ones who were brought through Armageddon already proved faithful in this satan ruled system. The ones who are faithful, names get written in Gods book of life, but many wont remain faithful and Rev 20:9 occurs to them.
Romans 6:7--Aquitted of sin at death.) They cannot be rejudged for those past sins. It is a very loving provision from God to give the resurrected a 2nd chance to gain life everlasting. Many of those never even heard the name Jesus from OT days. And many never learned truth in NT days either. Few on earth today actually know what Jesus taught. No building called church teaches much of what Jesus actually taught. They do not know him.

 

[Keiw]

Nice try Keiw! Can you think of some OT prophecies which remove your understanding? Have a think!

None--Jesus teaches--FEW will find the road that leads off into life.( be saved)--Few = 1% or less.

 

[face2face]

None--Jesus teaches--FEW will find the road that leads off into life.( be saved)--Few = 1% or less.

But that doesnt teach the destruction of the worlds population...does it!
The masses represented in Rev 22:15 - are these the 1% of the worlds population? Again, have you considered many of the OT prophecies?

 

[BlessedPeace]

Yes rev 20 is the resurrected--1000 years satan is abyssed-those get an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will with no satan influence. The reason satan gets loosed for a little while is to test the resurrected ones. The ones who were brought through Armageddon already proved faithful in this satan ruled system. The ones who are faithful, names get written in Gods book of life, but many wont remain faithful and Rev 20:9 occurs to them.
Romans 6:7--Aquitted of sin at death.) They cannot be rejudged for those past sins. It is a very loving provision from God to give the resurrected a 2nd chance to gain life everlasting. Many of those never even heard the name Jesus from OT days. And many never learned truth in NT days either. Few on earth today actually know what Jesus taught. No building called church teaches much of what Jesus actually taught. They do not know him.

God wrote the names in the Lambs Book of Life before the foundation of this world.

Revelation 20:

The Judgment of the Dead​

11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.

 

[MatthewG]

If Jesus hasnt came back yet then yes people are going straight to hell, cause all of Jesuss enemies have yet to be put under his feet.

If they have been put under his feet, no, then people are going to the heavenly realm.

All people receive a resurrected spiritual body, be it of faithless (condemned spiritual body ) and they are outside of the kingdom, oe (spiritual body of life) that may enter into the kingdom.



Most people get stuck on Revelation 20 and never move past it, or Revelation 19.

 

[Keiw]

But that doesnt teach the destruction of the worlds population...does it!
The masses represented in Rev 22:15 - are these the 1% of the worlds population? Again, have you considered many of the OT prophecies?

Rev 16= EVERY kingdom( govt, armies, supporters) will be mislead by 3 inspired expressions from satans side to stand in opposition to Gods king at Armageddon. They are now as well. Those expressions will hit mortal hearts like 3 9/11,s at once, bringing them to give support for their flag against Jesus. But satan will make it look like the opposite. 99% will give support to the image of the beast because it will look good to the mortal heart. It does now. The result=Dan 2:44-- Rev 19:11-21

 

[Keiw]

God wrote the names in the Lambs Book of Life before the foundation of this world.

Revelation 20:

The Judgment of the Dead​

11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.

God had no clue who would be living now before creation occurred. That had a different meaning. More like God knew some would stand and those are the names mentioned.
I showed you One is aquitted of all sin at death. They cannot be rejudged for those sins it would be unjust. God is a God of justice. My posts are truth. You are being mislead by the darkness.

 

[BlessedPeace]

God had no clue who would be living now before creation occurred. That had a different meaning. More like God knew some would stand and those are the names mentioned.
I showed you One is aquitted of all sin at death. They cannot be rejudged for those sins it would be unjust. God is a God of justice. My posts are truth. You are being mislead by the darkness.

I disagree.

Thank you for the chat.
God Bless

 

[Jack]

Michael is Jesus--1Thess 4:16--It is Jesus' voice. No one can loan their voice to another.

No He isn't. Kingdom Hall has stolen your Savior!

 

[Jack]

Listen @Keiw, and @Jack, please stay on topic or I will be reporting both of you, this is the first warning. Take it else where. Thank you.

Are you ever off topic? Do you know what hypocrisy means?

 

[Keiw]

I disagree.

Thank you for the chat.
God Bless

Did the bible writer lie? He said-one is acquitted of all past sins at death. Was it not God who gave the judgement for sin to be death?

 

[Keiw]

No He isn't. Kingdom Hall has stolen your Savior!

0 doubt in all creation-Michael is Jesus. If one believes Jesus over error=John 17:3--God did not come down here, he sent another, named Jesus as a mortal.

 

[Jack]

0 doubt in all creation-Michael is Jesus. If one believes Jesus over error=John 17:3--God did not come down here, he sent another, named Jesus as a mortal.

MatthewG said you're off topic.

 

[face2face]

Rev 16= EVERY kingdom( govt, armies, supporters) will be mislead by 3 inspired expressions from satans side to stand in opposition to Gods king at Armageddon. They are now as well. Those expressions will hit mortal hearts like 3 9/11,s at once, bringing them to give support for their flag against Jesus. But satan will make it look like the opposite. 99% will give support to the image of the beast because it will look good to the mortal heart. It does now. The result=Dan 2:44-- Rev 19:11-21

Notice how you avoided the question Keiw?

I'll ask again, lets see if you can show enough respect to answer the question

The masses represented in Rev 22:15 - are these the 1% of the worlds population?

Again, have you considered many of the OT prophecies?

You are saying there will be no nations in the earth post Armageddon - so how is Psalm 1,2 & 3 fulfilled? What of the nations coming up year by year to offer gifts?

It's clear you have not thought this through.

And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King (The Lord Jesus Christ), the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Firstly, this doesnt read like 1%, a number you have absolutely no evidence for!
Secondly, this verse and Isaiahs are clear those who go up are representatives of the nations still functioning in the earth.
Thirdly, the King is in Jerusalem not in Heaven!

You have a few things to work through Keiw.

F2F

 

[Keiw]

Notice how you avoided the question Keiw?

I'll ask again, lets see if you can show enough respect to answer the question

The masses represented in Rev 22:15 - are these the 1% of the worlds population?

Again, have you considered many of the OT prophecies?

You are saying there will be no nations in the earth post Armageddon - so how is Psalm 1,2 & 3 fulfilled? What of the nations coming up year by year to offer gifts?

It's clear you have not thought this through.

And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King (The Lord Jesus Christ), the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Firstly, this doesnt read like 1%, a number you have absolutely no evidence for!
Secondly, this verse and Isaiahs are clear those who go up are representatives of the nations still functioning in the earth.
Thirdly, the King is in Jerusalem not in Heaven!

You have a few things to work through Keiw.

F2F

The wickedness all ends here at Rev 20:9-See Rev 21= a new heaven and new earth= Gods kingdom in full control, no more wickedness or wicked things exist.-The sea is no more= the sea( 99%) of who is wicked in Gods view.

 

[face2face]

The wickedness all ends here at Rev 20:9-See Rev 21= a new heaven and new earth= Gods kingdom in full control, no more wickedness or wicked things exist.-The sea is no more= the sea( 99%) of who is wicked in Gods view.

Still avoiding the questions I see.

The sea is no more at the end of the Milenium does not imply 99% of the worlds population is destroyed. Where are you getting this from?

How can Christ rule the nations if you say there are none? Rev 2:27!
How can the nations go up to Jerusalem year by year if there are none to go?

He (Jesus) shall judge between the nations, and shall decide disputes for many peoples (1% ) ; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore. Isaiah 2:4
)
How can Jesus from Jerusalem judge between the nations and decide disputes if they are all destroyed?
Your belief has noone beating their swords into plowshares.
You must be right - nation will not lift up sword against another nation because there will be no peoples to lift swords.



You have been sold a lie Keiw

F2F

 

[ScottA]

Be honest, what do you believe?

Is God sending people straight to hell when they die, today?​

My answer of course is a big solid fat - No.

You can't just pretend to believe that God sends people straight to hell and then soften a blow when death comes about.

I believe that Yahava, who sent the Lord Yeshua, the messiah - who has had victory over all things today "Hell, Satan, Sin, Death (Spiritual death), the false prophet, the beast" does not send people to hell because hell gives up it's death in Revelation, therefore it can not last forever. There is the lake of fire that is in front of the Lamb, which one can assume rubs away all the darkness of an individual, and allows the only remaining good part of them alive be it small or very little. That is a good God, who loves, and who purges away darkness, however it seems that when Yahava, judges those who are not properly clothed are thrown back out of the kingdom into darkness, those who wanted nothing to do with God in this life are also resurrected and given a spiritual body that resides out in the darkness. There seems to be a city that God had established in the afterlife, that similar to the temple that was set up on earth. The outer court (the way), the inner court (the truth), and the holy of holies (the life), and everyone who believed start out in the outer court. While those who wanted nothing to do with God are outside of the gate in general.

On the subject of faithless people being outside the kingdom:

Why are faithless people claimed to be outside of the gates of the city in heaven?

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Those of faith are given a spiritual body that may dwell in the city and have access to the tree of life.

“Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.”
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Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and

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To me everyone goes to the heavenly Realm, either outside or inside the kingdom.

Conjecture of what one only believes should be offered in the form of questions. Maybe theology is dangerous.

 

[MatthewG]

@ScottA, many people just say heaven or hell.

 

[MatthewG]

Is God sending people straight to hell today?

 

[Rockerduck]

The scripture "many are called and few are chosen" is how Jesus described the condition of man's heart. All those who accept the Lords calling and receive Him are the chosen. The problem with unsaved people is a natural tendency run away from God, just as Adam did. Mankind turns his back on God today. The problem is with the unbeliever and the lack of belief in the Word of God. There is plenty of evidence that God exists. The problem is the unbeliever doesn't want to know God. That's God's justice, accept Jesus or die in your sins. All are called, but the unbeliever goes to hell because he resists the calling and will not accept Jesus. Its not God's fault, He sent Jesus to die for us. What else could God do?