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TheHC

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So you are as bad as all of us dividing the church.

Or do you mean by that, that you are no longer ger Christian?
I have 2 questions:

Is a Christian who gets lethal training and then kills another Christian, are they really obeying Christ’s commands (at John 13:34; John 15:17) to “love one another”? — 1 John 3:10-15

Would a Christian killing an “enemy” be obedient to Christ’s command (at Matthew 5:44) to love their enemy?

I see disobedience of this nature all throughout the numerous sects of Christendom. It requires a certain mental blindness to not see it.
In Jesus’ prophecy in Matthew 7:21-23, he foretold such behaviors.
 
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I have 2 questions:

Is a Christian who gets lethal training and then kills another Christian, are they really obeying Christ’s commands (at John 13:34; John 15:17) to “love one another”? — 1 John 3:10-15

Would a Christian killing an “enemy” be obedient to Christ’s command (at Matthew 5:44) to love their enemy?

I see disobedience of this nature all throughout the numerous sects of Christendom. It requires a certain mental blindness to not see it.
In Jesus’ prophecy in Matthew 7:21-23, he foretold such behaviors.

Are you going to be honest and open. Just where do you stand as you call yourself Christiam.
What are you, roman Catholic, one of many protestant groups or Mormon, jehovahs witness.
Please identify what you are?
 

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So you are as bad as all of us dividing the church.

Or do you mean by that, that you are no longer ger Christian?
I was raised in Christendom, but what I was taught and what I observed made me realize that what passes for ”Christianity” today bears no resemblance to the Christianity that Jesus taught.
It seemed that everything Jesus taught, the church did the opposite and justified it.

Jesus himself foretold that the Christian faith, just like Judaism before it, would be corrupted. (Matt 15:7-9)
I am sick of people pretending that it never happened, because this divided mess that masquerades as Christianity today is the “weeds” of Jesus’ parable.

It’s not that I am no longer a “Christian” but that I only became one when I left Christendom. When Jesus comes as the judge of all of us, who is he going to identify as his “sheep” and who are going to be the “goats”? Will it be denominations that separate them?

When God looks down on this earth, all he sees are “sheep and goats”…..”wheat and weeds”….no matter what we call ourselves. There is but one truth, and only God can reveal it to whomever he chooses. (John 6:44; 65) All must be at unity with this one truth. (1 Cor 1:10) That does not describe the disunited churches of Christendom. (Rev 18:4-5)
 
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Hello, cousin!

I’m not trying to be antagonistic in any way, but really, does who I am have a bearing on the importance of those questions?
Every person in a religion professing to honor - especially worship - Christ, should ask themselves how their organization stands up to such scrutiny.
What is its reputation?
Are you going to be honest and open.
Yes, I always strive to be honest and open.
Just where do you stand as you call yourself Christiam.
To the best I can, as a Christian, I try to follow Christ’s example. So I worship who he worshipped: his Father, the God of Israel. (John 4:23,24; John 20:17) God’s Name is YHWH , most refer to Him as “Yahweh” in Hebrew. And “Jehovah” in English.
What are you, roman Catholic, one of many protestant groups or Mormon, jehovahs witness.
Please identify what you are?
I’m one of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

What do you think about those questions?

Our Savior said, “You are my friends, If you do what I tell you.” (John 15:14) So what happens to those institutions that don’t?

These are just rhetorical questions …. I don’t want to put anyone on the spot. Just to think.

Goodnight.
 
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Yes my friend and there is none who is good but GOD .
Lord who then can be saved , With MAN this is IM the POSS IBLE
but not with GOD . GOD all mighty creater of all that is
long ago determined HOW to save the world .
HIS NAME IS JESUS CHRIST . that be the name this lamb preaches and shall offer no false hope to any soul that lives .
IF one wants to be saved , if one desires to have eternal life and not perish , I GOTS ONE NAME
BELIEVE YE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
Yes sir i am a stickler to the one true gospel . Giving out any other name or hope
is like a man tossing a drowing victim a one hundred pound iron chain with a ten pound iron weight
and saying here grab hold of this and save thine own self . THEY WILL SINK in delusion and will not be saved
and he or she who threw that line to them WILL be held accountable for their blood .
I have seen a great and mighty evil that has come upon even christendom
they now throw out a false hope love line to the lost and that cannot save them .
The true gospel is under attack like never before and the adversary of our souls has brought
a lie to town that he calls love but it AINT LOVE . we preach JESUS and no other name . as i am sure you do agree .
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Are you going to be honest and open. Just where do you stand as you call yourself Christiam.
What are you, roman Catholic, one of many protestant groups or Mormon, jehovahs witness.
Please identify what you are?
a very deadly and dangerous thing has occured and it came in under the guise that it was love and loving
and the churches bought it .
To answer your question let me say , its possible he is one of those or none of those
WHAT do i mean . WELL by the lets be one motto of false unity
all denominations have merged more and more together . SO too did their teachings merge more and more together .
Many have teachings of the JW , of the mormon , of new age , of the RCC
and yet KNOW NOT how deadly this all was and is .
WHEN YA YOKE up together with birds of another feather
you gonna end up a speckled goose that cannot fly , cannot see , cannot swim
but believes it can do all those things . GOD WARNED US . HE WARNED US
not to have communion with darkness
BUT under the guise we all brethren , lets just be as one , lets just overlook our differences
THIS TOTAL destruction has come upon Christendom .
and now they all being led to be as one with even the muslims , buddists , hindus , and etc
And more and more they will soon believe THE LIE which implies HEY WE ALL serving GOD with our lovey do . total mess .
 
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Yeah, I think I'm still not getting this right myself but maybe it's this: if you deliberately and freely sin without a care or regard for God and others then you will be going to Hell, but if you've tried not to sin and then sinned but you always try to repent and sometimes you MUST repent I find from experience (God says you NEED to repent of this sin/hindrance in your life!) so if you don't deliberately sin (you've tried) then you will still be going to Heaven. And if you follow God's guiding steps in life, you will be blessed, not like Jonah who was disobedient and then was swallowed by a fish so it was a curse and dead-end so God got him to obey (either you die or you obey and live).
 
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Hello, cousin!

I’m not trying to be antagonistic in any way, but really, does who I am have a bearing on the importance of those questions?
Every person in a religion professing to honor - especially worship - Christ, should ask themselves how their organization stands up to such scrutiny.
What is its reputation?

Yes, I always strive to be honest and open.

To the best I can, as a Christian, I try to follow Christ’s example. So I worship who he worshipped: his Father, the God of Israel. (John 4:23,24; John 20:17) God’s Name is YHWH , most refer to Him as “Yahweh” in Hebrew. And “Jehovah” in English.

I’m one of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

What do you think about those questions?

Our Savior said, “You are my friends, If you do what I tell you.” (John 15:14) So what happens to those institutions that don’t?

These are just rhetorical questions …. I don’t want to put anyone on the spot. Just to think.

Goodnight.
I asked to know what you believe.
You see both you and anuty Jane believe that Christians are not Christians.

JW and Mormons both believe that they are true Christians and that all other Christian churches are teaching false doctrine.

You hide the fact that your sect of Christianity teaches that only followers of your sect will go to heaven.
( sect group with authority source other than the bible, teach that Jesus is not the Son of God and not solely responsible for salvation, and have an authorities governing body. )

2 Cor13:5 Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you—unless, of course, you fail the test? 6 And I trust that you will discover that we have not failed the test.

Well is Jesus in you?
 

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a very deadly and dangerous thing has occured and it came in under the guise that it was love and loving
and the churches bought it .
To answer your question let me say , its possible he is one of those or none of those
WHAT do i mean . WELL by the lets be one motto of false unity
all denominations have merged more and more together . SO too did their teachings merge more and more together .
Many have teachings of the JW , of the mormon , of new age , of the RCC
and yet KNOW NOT how deadly this all was and is .
WHEN YA YOKE up together with birds of another feather
you gonna end up a speckled goose that cannot fly , cannot see , cannot swim
but believes it can do all those things . GOD WARNED US . HE WARNED US
not to have communion with darkness
BUT under the guise we all brethren , lets just be as one , lets just overlook our differences
THIS TOTAL destruction has come upon Christendom .
and now they all being led to be as one with even the muslims , buddists , hindus , and etc
And more and more they will soon believe THE LIE which implies HEY WE ALL serving GOD with our lovey do . total mess .
I don’t understand what you are talking about.
 

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I don’t understand what you are talking about.
When in the name of unity you try and bring all the denominations together
the teachings will come with them .
You see doctrine is being overlooked . Used to be some churches knew that some other denominations
were actually dangerous and taught heretical things .
But ever since rick warren , the seeker friendly big movement
the ecuminical movement everyone hollers we all christian and they dont give a care one
that some denominations were actually deadly . So them teachings also come with them .
We should have always corrected the bad doctrine , rather than looking it over for sake of unity .
THEY will now do this with even false religoins . Lets just all find common ground they will say .
We got duped big time . The plan all along by the HARLOT
was to gather all denominations and even all false religoins to be as one under what all beleive is love and is God .
And it sure has worked too . Just not on the sheep . but now the sheep are seen as the judgmental haters .
It will continue to get only worse as the delusoin grows .
 
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I don7 care what church they attend, only that they are trusting solely in Jesus for salvation.

That's the thing.... lots of folks these days claim to be Christians but follow a fake jesus that teaches doctrines of demons

God's Word has a lot to say about not being in unity with false teachers and those that follow false teachings.

Every do a study on this... or is false teaching not a problem for you?

If one doesn't mind false teaching.... they are well on their way to being deceived if they aren't already
 

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That's the thing.... lots of folks these days claim to be Christians but follow a fake jesus that teaches doctrines of demons

God's Word has a lot to say about not being in unity with false teachers and those that follow false teachings.

Every do a study on this... or is false teaching not a problem for you?

If one doesn't mind false teaching.... they are well on their way to being deceived if they aren't already
How do you reach non christians? Wait for them to come into church or engage with them where they are as Jesus did.
How do you reach ' Christians ' who may be attending a liberal or progressive church?

Meeting Christians from other churches of what ever denomination, meeting non Christians in neutral territory gives one the opportunity to talk and to show them what true Christianity is.

Here's a challenge for you.

Muslims and Hindus and atheists around the world are persecuting " Christians " they don't ask for a theological statement and decide they are " Christian" while those are not. They're cute all under the umbrella of Christian.

How do you pray for your brothers and sisters in Christ facing imprisonment, beatings, discrimination, sexual abuse, kidnapping and death?
 

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I have no interest in bring denominations together.

I am interested in Christians being united in worship, service and fellowship. I don7 care what church they attend, only that they are trusting solely in Jesus for salvation.
Have you ever noticed this is exactly the mindset they created in order to decieve .
Many no longer care what one beleives , what church they attended whether the moonies , the mormon
the you name it . THAT is the deadly problem . right there .
One thing i seem to notice is you can just about walk into any church
and you see this very mindset . But what you dont see IS DOCTRINE , CORRECTION , INSTRUCTION in righteousness .
THEY knew how to merge us my friend .
Sure they talk about doing some good works . But you would marvel if you go around
asking the peoples what they know about the truth in that bible . And you would marvel
that even many new agers sit in those churches , playing the things they ought never have touched .
You have all sorts of different mindsets . The church leaders have no idea
WHAT their people beleive and they dont really care either .
Its like a social club with the word love stamped on it . This is a problem .
And this is being done with even the false religoins too .
They , over the years , made it seem like doctrine was less and less important to know
and they rather preached a wordly version of truth and what seemed as loving .
You wanna know why these so called churches seem to have such unity
IT causes they never teach real doctrine . I bet if one brings a bible into many churches
and actually started teaching that . And not just little parts here and there , BUT ALL of it
Immediately you would see tension , anger , resentment towards the one doing this .
You see they deceived us my friend . They broke down walls , WHICH MEANS REMOVE more and more doctrines
cause they was all about molding not only the denominations but also the false religoins to be as one .
DOCTRINE MATTERS . THE WORDS OF GOD MATTER . WHAT WE BELEIVE DOES MATTER .
and all they holler is beleive in love, and yet their example of what their love accepts , allows to remain uncorrected
PROVES IT AINT THE LOVE OF GOD .
 

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The churches are not LIKEMINDED on DOCTRINE as they ought to be .
We have all sorts of different beliefs within the churches now .
Cause they decieved us by a method they taught was love
and said we needed to be likeminded on love. ONLY it was not THE LOVE OF GOD .
This was a snare all along .
It was supposed to be MARK those who cause divisions CONTRARY to the DOCTRINE you have learned
to mark and avoid those .
Due to a false version of love , of judge not correct not
that has become MARK those who would correct the church , who would focus ON THE DOCTRINE
cause they haters and dont love .
 

amigo de christo

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I have no interest in bring denominations together.

I am interested in Christians being united in worship, service and fellowship. I don7 care what church they attend, only that they are trusting solely in Jesus for salvation.
Only that they are TRUSTING SOLELY in JESUS for salvation .
That my friend is lovely .
Have you noticed something .
Many who even claim to be doing such a thing , are not really doing such a thing as they follow another jesus
that sure has made the road to GOD very broad and sin accepting . A jesus that wont correct sin and error
but rather rebukes those who do correct sin and error in the church . THAT is the jesus most now follow
and its NO JESUS at all . many have been bewitched . So onward in the trenches
and let all biblical doctrine be continously taught and that pattern kept /
 

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this is being done with even the false religoins too

You are not keeping up with how things are in the world. JE, Mormons, Hindus, Muslims, are not interested in combining or in sharing their belief with other religions.

Oh they will happily share a platform at a civic or at a ' christian ' event, but you won't find them inviting Christians to their events.

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