In regard to what Jesus said to Peter, it appears that the Apostle John's presumption is in error.
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Do not be deceived !
Jesus did in fact die for our sins we committed while we served the flesh and sin, but once we become his children he is our advocate IF we do sin after salvation.
Now there are many that believe in all sin, past present, and future sin is forgiven but Ezekiel tells us that if after we become righteous and sin IF WE DIE IN THAT SIN, THEN WE DIE IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS .
I will say to all, you need not a teacher among mankind but ONLY the Spirit of God to teach us as we study God's word.
Whose are we ?
Do we belong to man or GOD?
Think before you traverse this thread if you are NOT strong in the Lord. All the Apostles were chosen by Jesus and anointed to carry the inspired word, others may think they alone have the ear of God but it is false.
God is NOT limited to who we are, what we think, nor what we say.
Your walk must be justified by the Word and the Spirit . It is yours alone,do not let another take what is weak in you & make you stumble for then YOU LOSE!
Jesus did in fact die for our sins we committed while we served the flesh and sin, but once we become his children he is our advocate IF we do sin after salvation.
Now there are many that believe in all sin, past present, and future sin is forgiven but Ezekiel tells us that if after we become righteous and sin IF WE DIE IN THAT SIN, THEN WE DIE IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS .
I will say to all, you need not a teacher among mankind but ONLY the Spirit of God to teach us as we study God's word.
Whose are we ?
Do we belong to man or GOD?
Think before you traverse this thread if you are NOT strong in the Lord. All the Apostles were chosen by Jesus and anointed to carry the inspired word, others may think they alone have the ear of God but it is false.
God is NOT limited to who we are, what we think, nor what we say.
Your walk must be justified by the Word and the Spirit . It is yours alone,do not let another take what is weak in you & make you stumble for then YOU LOSE!
Dear one,
You will find your help only in God and his word.
We care about you and I especially care about your mental status.
Doubt ,fear, anger the things that come from within you must be dealt with by the Holy Spirit.
Man only gives a band- aide, God HEALS.
Please be on guard against all spirits that speak against the Word, for by our hearing and doing of the Word shall we be judged.
Already having issues in thinking and sorting out make one easy prey for false doctrine. Believe me, I truly understand
Here is Romans chapter 6, see if you can rightly divide in context EXACTLY what is being said!
PERFECT GRACE ??????
Could not find that term in KJV of the Word.
I did find that God is perfect as well as love and peace being perfected !
Could not find that term in KJV of the Word.
I did find that God is perfect as well as love and peace being perfected !
Oh, I forgot ....this one....
doesn't believe Paul nor John and thinks Peter is......?
doesn't believe Paul nor John and thinks Peter is......?
LOL. I got yer “too much” right here. And, for once, I “believe” @ScottA will be in complete agreement with on that one! What do you think, @The Learner?
Quite seriously, here’s what I think. I have come to the conclusion that, what I said a few posts back, is the only useful way for us to proceed.
It is brother against brother in here, as @VictoryinJesus says. Having to micromanage ALL of this, is a waste of everyone’s valuable time. We should already be busy, unburying and unwrapping those five wonderful Words of Jesus: “RANSOM,” “AWAY,” “PERFECT,” “FREEDOM” and “ALL.”
However, from out of the bulk of @L3astAmOngManyB13ss3d’s latest onslaught, she does post one challenge, both pertinent and timely to our conversation. After posting ALL of Romans Chapter 6, she exclaims:
“Here is Romans chapter 6, see if you can rightly divide in context EXACTLY what is being said!”
I can. And, I will… directly after I am done with my housekeeping... and a proposition I have for @VictoryinJesus.
As for the housekeeping: Paul is not yours nor my enemy (I never said he was). I’ll say it again. Neither am I anyone in this room’s enemy.
What has taken over your minds is the enemy.
It is because of this that you are not, “The salt of the Earth.” You are not, “The light of the world.” It is because of this that some of you in here are worse than, “The fat man stuck in the stairwell who can’t go up; and, because of you, nobody else can either.” Instead, you are, “The fat man stuck in the stairwell with a machine gun and an endless amount of ammunition! You are determined not to go up. And, you are equally determined that nobody else does, either!”
I’m about to take a flame thrower to this situation. One way or the other, you cheese-blocks (“stumbling blocks,” as Jesus would call you) are going to be MOVED.
ALL of you Church-Taught Christians need to get well — yet… only one of you wants to. I hear her voice “I don’t want to be sick anymore.”
As for my proposition: Once I have addressed L3astAmOngManyB13ss3d’s challenge, as long as it is okay with @VictoryinJesus… I am going to continue the remainder of this huge conversation with only her, personally, person to person.
Victory, you and I have been PERFECTLY honest with each other. And, neither one of us have blown any smoke up each others’ skirts (so to speak, in my case — considering, I don’t wear one). You have grilled me better than anyone else in here. You have done an excellent job of testing me and my Spirit — the Holy Spirit. Your questions have been direct, square-on and, each one, to the heart of each day’s topic — pertaining exactly to what I am revealing, one step at a time, in here.
Funny, “revelation” is the exact Word my “Opponent” has fearfully used, to claim what my postings are not.
Yet, not once have I called my postings, “revelation.”
I do not have to. For, everything I have told you is the Truth. No one can argue against it; and, yet, for some reason, they cannot embrace it. I know the reason. They know not the Living God. For, to know the Living God, is to recognize the Words of the Living God. Whether they come out of a Bible or out of a jackass. Whether they come out of “a crazy man who eats bugs in the wilderness” or whether they come out of “a glutton and a drinking man.”
Respectively, those statements were flung by RELIGION directly at John the Baptist and Jesus of Nazareth.
Even Jesus, in possession of more patience than Job, had no tolerance for the hypocrisy of what RELIGION does to a person. Even Jesus, who made the lame walk, lepers clean and the dead rise, could not cure these men of their worthless ambition and prattle. RELIGION: a symptom of their mental disease. Instead, he likened the debilitating duplicity of it to “children at play.”
I have done my best to share the Truth with the exact same in this room — the twenty-first century version of these exact same people. The religious! I can dig it, Jesus. I know exactly what you mean! They have been prevented from hearing the Truth (much less are they equipped with the capacity to embrace it). And, so… they, too, hurl ridicule and name-calling (and pointless rhetoric... in an attempt to change whatever subject is being addressed... for which they have no lucid answer).
@L3astAmOngManyB13ss3d’s expected me to be mopped up in here long ago... and figured I'd be long gone. In her first posts to me, she warns: “never assume a position you can not defend, you will be knocked flat.” And, “You are in for a really bumpy ride.”
I’m still here. Standing firmly on my feet.
And, she is the one... bouncing off the walls (like a lunatic).
You can’t say I didn’t warn you, L3astAmOngManyB13ss3d, long before we got into ALL of this. Remember my post?
It is quite possible to feel apprehension, confusion, fear, defensive fury, even anger and hatred as we exhume the bodies: RANSOM, AWAY, PERFECT, FREEDOM and ALL. Our level of defensive fury, anger and hatred comes to us in direct proportion to how after-the-fact complicit we are in killing and burying these wonderfully simple Words. Our mental state. Our participation and or our assistance. To put it bluntly, our conspiratorial liability.
Mature Christians? Complicit to murdering the God’s-honest Truth? Furious, angry and hateful about being shown the God’s-honest Truth? Seriously?
Seriously. As were the Pharisees of 25 AD. We now have over two-thousand years of the Christian “belief” system behind us. To a person, the pilots flying FCA (Fundamental Christian Airlines) are indelibly convinced: We already have a solid handle on the Truth. Such thinking builds fixed fortifications against the invasion of Truth. Hard heads encased in blocks of cheese. Worse, yet typical to Religion, there is danger in parting the cheese, opening the eyes and unblocking the ears. It can be horrifyingly frustrating to the point of madness for a thoroughly-equipped “believer” to learn that the Truth, the whole Truth and not any other thing but the God’s-honest Truth lay outside of what he has been taught to “believe.” Especially frustrating when there is no defendable way for him (or her) to argue against it. It can be lethal. Yes, even to good, godly Christians. It can make a good, godly Christian want to kill somebody. It made the good, godly Pharisees of 25AD want to kill somebody... (the somebody who was telling them the Truth).
Victory, Jesus looked forward to this day and predicted, “The Truth shall set you FREE.” Hold fast to his sunny forecast as an encouragement for you to keep reading. Perhaps even for you to go off by yourself and find a quiet place to keep reading.
Quite seriously, here’s what I think. I have come to the conclusion that, what I said a few posts back, is the only useful way for us to proceed.
It is brother against brother in here, as @VictoryinJesus says. Having to micromanage ALL of this, is a waste of everyone’s valuable time. We should already be busy, unburying and unwrapping those five wonderful Words of Jesus: “RANSOM,” “AWAY,” “PERFECT,” “FREEDOM” and “ALL.”
However, from out of the bulk of @L3astAmOngManyB13ss3d’s latest onslaught, she does post one challenge, both pertinent and timely to our conversation. After posting ALL of Romans Chapter 6, she exclaims:
“Here is Romans chapter 6, see if you can rightly divide in context EXACTLY what is being said!”
I can. And, I will… directly after I am done with my housekeeping... and a proposition I have for @VictoryinJesus.
As for the housekeeping: Paul is not yours nor my enemy (I never said he was). I’ll say it again. Neither am I anyone in this room’s enemy.
What has taken over your minds is the enemy.
It is because of this that you are not, “The salt of the Earth.” You are not, “The light of the world.” It is because of this that some of you in here are worse than, “The fat man stuck in the stairwell who can’t go up; and, because of you, nobody else can either.” Instead, you are, “The fat man stuck in the stairwell with a machine gun and an endless amount of ammunition! You are determined not to go up. And, you are equally determined that nobody else does, either!”
I’m about to take a flame thrower to this situation. One way or the other, you cheese-blocks (“stumbling blocks,” as Jesus would call you) are going to be MOVED.
ALL of you Church-Taught Christians need to get well — yet… only one of you wants to. I hear her voice “I don’t want to be sick anymore.”
As for my proposition: Once I have addressed L3astAmOngManyB13ss3d’s challenge, as long as it is okay with @VictoryinJesus… I am going to continue the remainder of this huge conversation with only her, personally, person to person.
Victory, you and I have been PERFECTLY honest with each other. And, neither one of us have blown any smoke up each others’ skirts (so to speak, in my case — considering, I don’t wear one). You have grilled me better than anyone else in here. You have done an excellent job of testing me and my Spirit — the Holy Spirit. Your questions have been direct, square-on and, each one, to the heart of each day’s topic — pertaining exactly to what I am revealing, one step at a time, in here.
Funny, “revelation” is the exact Word my “Opponent” has fearfully used, to claim what my postings are not.
Yet, not once have I called my postings, “revelation.”
I do not have to. For, everything I have told you is the Truth. No one can argue against it; and, yet, for some reason, they cannot embrace it. I know the reason. They know not the Living God. For, to know the Living God, is to recognize the Words of the Living God. Whether they come out of a Bible or out of a jackass. Whether they come out of “a crazy man who eats bugs in the wilderness” or whether they come out of “a glutton and a drinking man.”
Respectively, those statements were flung by RELIGION directly at John the Baptist and Jesus of Nazareth.
Even Jesus, in possession of more patience than Job, had no tolerance for the hypocrisy of what RELIGION does to a person. Even Jesus, who made the lame walk, lepers clean and the dead rise, could not cure these men of their worthless ambition and prattle. RELIGION: a symptom of their mental disease. Instead, he likened the debilitating duplicity of it to “children at play.”
I have done my best to share the Truth with the exact same in this room — the twenty-first century version of these exact same people. The religious! I can dig it, Jesus. I know exactly what you mean! They have been prevented from hearing the Truth (much less are they equipped with the capacity to embrace it). And, so… they, too, hurl ridicule and name-calling (and pointless rhetoric... in an attempt to change whatever subject is being addressed... for which they have no lucid answer).
@L3astAmOngManyB13ss3d’s expected me to be mopped up in here long ago... and figured I'd be long gone. In her first posts to me, she warns: “never assume a position you can not defend, you will be knocked flat.” And, “You are in for a really bumpy ride.”
I’m still here. Standing firmly on my feet.
And, she is the one... bouncing off the walls (like a lunatic).
You can’t say I didn’t warn you, L3astAmOngManyB13ss3d, long before we got into ALL of this. Remember my post?
It is quite possible to feel apprehension, confusion, fear, defensive fury, even anger and hatred as we exhume the bodies: RANSOM, AWAY, PERFECT, FREEDOM and ALL. Our level of defensive fury, anger and hatred comes to us in direct proportion to how after-the-fact complicit we are in killing and burying these wonderfully simple Words. Our mental state. Our participation and or our assistance. To put it bluntly, our conspiratorial liability.
Mature Christians? Complicit to murdering the God’s-honest Truth? Furious, angry and hateful about being shown the God’s-honest Truth? Seriously?
Seriously. As were the Pharisees of 25 AD. We now have over two-thousand years of the Christian “belief” system behind us. To a person, the pilots flying FCA (Fundamental Christian Airlines) are indelibly convinced: We already have a solid handle on the Truth. Such thinking builds fixed fortifications against the invasion of Truth. Hard heads encased in blocks of cheese. Worse, yet typical to Religion, there is danger in parting the cheese, opening the eyes and unblocking the ears. It can be horrifyingly frustrating to the point of madness for a thoroughly-equipped “believer” to learn that the Truth, the whole Truth and not any other thing but the God’s-honest Truth lay outside of what he has been taught to “believe.” Especially frustrating when there is no defendable way for him (or her) to argue against it. It can be lethal. Yes, even to good, godly Christians. It can make a good, godly Christian want to kill somebody. It made the good, godly Pharisees of 25AD want to kill somebody... (the somebody who was telling them the Truth).
Victory, Jesus looked forward to this day and predicted, “The Truth shall set you FREE.” Hold fast to his sunny forecast as an encouragement for you to keep reading. Perhaps even for you to go off by yourself and find a quiet place to keep reading.
I do not have to tell you, Victory. You know the Truth when you see it, don’t you? You realize as do I: No human being in this room is my opponent. Nor are any one of these souls my enemy. My “Opponent” in this room, is something else.
IT is a “kind” ALL unto ITSELF.
(Buzzer Sound!) Wrong again, room (as usual). Not “the devil,” as most Church-Taught Christians would guess. Thus far, Satan has not set one foot into this room. He doesn’t have to. Why would he? When the can sit back, comfortably, on a perch, way up on top of the high-rise skyscraper he built… and enjoy the show.
No. IT (what has invaded your minds) is a Darkness much more Powerful and Empty than Satan. IT is the Equal Opposite Opponent of our Father in Heaven. The God’s-honest Truth? IT is the Father of Satan. For, Satan is, indeed, ITS only begotten Son.
“Know your enemy,” says General MacArthur.
Our brother Paul knew who our Enemy is. As do I. And, yet, those in this room, fighting against me, do not. For, if they knew who our Enemy is, they would know that Paul and I are on the same Team. IT is our GREATEST Enemy — the last Enemy of the Living God of Light earmarked for Eternal Destruction. (1 Corinthians 15:26) Oh, yes. IT has a name, and if you’ve ever read the Scriptures, you would know ITS name.
ITS name is O Death.
Here is the crux of the issue. There is a very important thing about Death that our brother Paul never realized in this Life. ITS fatal mental disease: The Knowledge of Good & Evil. This lack of wisdom blinded Paul to the powers of Death Itself. Again, “Know your Enemy.” You have to know who your Enemy is to recognize IT.
I have never claimed to be a prophet.
Funny, isn’t it, Victory? As I am sure you must have noticed — “Prophet” is the exact Word my “Opponent” in here has fearfully used, to claim what I am not.
Your Religion is infected to the gills with the fatal disaster of our “kind” (humanity) — The Knowledge of Good & Evil.
Your Religion hides these Biblical facts with fairytales of “Original Sin” and “The Fall of Man.” Folks, think about it. That is a HUGE Truth that I have pointed out to you. A Foundational Fact, that remains undisputed by anyone, here, in this room. Impossible it is… for anyone to effectively argue with the Truth.
The “Plane Crash”?
Every single fact about it that I have brought to your attention stands, here in this room, undisputed. Hello, Victory. I know you have ears. Are you going to “believe” the lies? Or your ears. I know you have plainly heard the children at play, recklessly yelling untruths, “The Third One hates Paul!” Does this kind of babble negate the Plane Crash? Or confirm it?
The “Opposition” in here has actually suggested that the diminishment of PERFECT-Grace is a good thing!
Save for her one GOOD challenge, the old lady who lives in a Box has taken to posting Scripture onto the walls of this room. What GOOD will it do? Who can honestly trust what’s become of the Word of God? As the Church and its pilots have perverted it so? Overdubbing the Church's own existence into the Scriptures — the word “Church” being dubbed over the Word, “gathering.” The word “repent” being dubbed over the Words, “change your mind.” The word “forgive,” having been outright invented by the Church-Taught, and then dubbed over God’s Holy Word… to bury God’s Holy Cure: ”Taken AWAY.”
Where are ALL of you expert Mature-Christian apologists?
This thread has over 2800 views, thus far. ALL of these OVERDUBS diligently called to your attention… remain undisputed.
My dear friend, you declare: The past couple nights I lay awake all night bitter and angry….and I can’t even pinpoint what I’m angry over.
I think I can help you with that.
Anger is one of the most necessary steps in becoming deprogrammed.
You are mostly mad at yourself for being duped by ALL of these Church-Taught teachers, who have been so horribly duped themselves. And, as you lay awake at night, you think about the efforts you, yourself have made… when you were inadvertently attempting to dupe others into this same erroneous nonsense — which, quite seriously, is 95% wrong.
You have been flown nowhere by first-century pilots, who did not understand our Destination. What is our destination? You know it well by now: Truly accepting what’s been done for us on the cross, 100%, with no “ifs,” “ands” or “buts.”
You managed, somehow, as a paying passenger, to survive the Plane Crash. Flown by a zealous, religious nut, who hijacked the airplane; yet, somehow, the Holy Spirit managed to smack what was in him quiet long enough for him to understand and write down the Destination.
However, quite suddenly, this (deep-down, wonderful-guy) almost-made-completely-wonderful-again (through-and-through) came to his “senses” (his Pharisee-Extremist senses) and he threw the Destination out the window… at 30,000 feet. For those of you who missed the 11-Oclock News… the result was catastrophic.
The Living God’s ever-enduring Savior of humanity SEES the Plane Crash from every angle (we’re talking, coverage WAY better than the 11-Oclock News). Jesus reported every bit of it — whatever you’d like to call it; “the reversal,” “the Plane Crash,” the catastrophe — long before it ever happened.
Our Christian hero (Saul/Paul/Rocky) flew the airplane up so quickly. Yet his roots were Pharisee-Withered and, alas, he wilted and crashed… in the hot sun.
We have yet to even discuss the details of what this Religion-bent nut put into motion, after he managed to walk AWAY from the Plane Crash. I briefly highlighted these issues for us. Here they are again: A manifesto teeming with judgment after judgment; hatred of the flesh, Life and self; a piling on of rules and regulations; the endeavor to be “Christ-like” (a concept found in no Gospel, which, if pursued, is doomed to failure for anyone but Christ); and the ultimate, becoming DEAD to one’s self.
The rest of you are far too gone to help sort out the outright mess that you have inherited (and that you embrace). Sure, go ahead and continue to post your thoughts. If they are even half helpful, I will address them. If not, they will be disregarded. @facetoface also had a half-helpful comment, out of the room’s most recent total barrage of sidetracking uselessness:
"If you hold to the substitutionary atonement theory like most Christians do, then the cross is made foolishness to you! They make God a debtor which is why these OSAS threads are prolific in Christian forums!"
Actually, the Substitutionary Atonement Theory makes God into an Eddie Murphy movie: “Trading Places.” And, the Satisfaction Atonement Theory makes God into a slave owner. ALL six of the Church’s “Atonement Theories” are idiotic and wrong.
Yes, Victory, we will cover ALL of the Church’s idiotic atonement theories. We’ll get them… soon enough.
As for OSAS? I do not use that idiotic, overused and unhelpful Church-Taught word — “saved.”
I use Jesus’ Words.
ORAR is the Truth.
Once RANSOMED always RANSOMED.
If I do post another “letter” in this room (after this one) that is the first Word we will cover in detail. RANSOM — if that is okay with VictoryinJesus.
@VictoryinJesus says: “I want to see what you speak of.”
I hope so. For, what I speak of are the Words of Jesus: RANSOM, AWAY, PERFECT, FREEDOM and ALL.
It is up to you Victory and to you alone, whether I stay in this room and continue this conversation… or whether I go elsewhere and start again. But, if I do stay, I will do so only under one condition. And, I need to know that you are okay with this one condition, Vic.
I will have this conversation with you, Victory, and with you alone.
IT is a “kind” ALL unto ITSELF.
(Buzzer Sound!) Wrong again, room (as usual). Not “the devil,” as most Church-Taught Christians would guess. Thus far, Satan has not set one foot into this room. He doesn’t have to. Why would he? When the can sit back, comfortably, on a perch, way up on top of the high-rise skyscraper he built… and enjoy the show.
No. IT (what has invaded your minds) is a Darkness much more Powerful and Empty than Satan. IT is the Equal Opposite Opponent of our Father in Heaven. The God’s-honest Truth? IT is the Father of Satan. For, Satan is, indeed, ITS only begotten Son.
“Know your enemy,” says General MacArthur.
Our brother Paul knew who our Enemy is. As do I. And, yet, those in this room, fighting against me, do not. For, if they knew who our Enemy is, they would know that Paul and I are on the same Team. IT is our GREATEST Enemy — the last Enemy of the Living God of Light earmarked for Eternal Destruction. (1 Corinthians 15:26) Oh, yes. IT has a name, and if you’ve ever read the Scriptures, you would know ITS name.
ITS name is O Death.
Here is the crux of the issue. There is a very important thing about Death that our brother Paul never realized in this Life. ITS fatal mental disease: The Knowledge of Good & Evil. This lack of wisdom blinded Paul to the powers of Death Itself. Again, “Know your Enemy.” You have to know who your Enemy is to recognize IT.
I have never claimed to be a prophet.
Funny, isn’t it, Victory? As I am sure you must have noticed — “Prophet” is the exact Word my “Opponent” in here has fearfully used, to claim what I am not.
Your Religion is infected to the gills with the fatal disaster of our “kind” (humanity) — The Knowledge of Good & Evil.
Your Religion hides these Biblical facts with fairytales of “Original Sin” and “The Fall of Man.” Folks, think about it. That is a HUGE Truth that I have pointed out to you. A Foundational Fact, that remains undisputed by anyone, here, in this room. Impossible it is… for anyone to effectively argue with the Truth.
The “Plane Crash”?
Every single fact about it that I have brought to your attention stands, here in this room, undisputed. Hello, Victory. I know you have ears. Are you going to “believe” the lies? Or your ears. I know you have plainly heard the children at play, recklessly yelling untruths, “The Third One hates Paul!” Does this kind of babble negate the Plane Crash? Or confirm it?
The “Opposition” in here has actually suggested that the diminishment of PERFECT-Grace is a good thing!
Save for her one GOOD challenge, the old lady who lives in a Box has taken to posting Scripture onto the walls of this room. What GOOD will it do? Who can honestly trust what’s become of the Word of God? As the Church and its pilots have perverted it so? Overdubbing the Church's own existence into the Scriptures — the word “Church” being dubbed over the Word, “gathering.” The word “repent” being dubbed over the Words, “change your mind.” The word “forgive,” having been outright invented by the Church-Taught, and then dubbed over God’s Holy Word… to bury God’s Holy Cure: ”Taken AWAY.”
Where are ALL of you expert Mature-Christian apologists?
This thread has over 2800 views, thus far. ALL of these OVERDUBS diligently called to your attention… remain undisputed.
My dear friend, you declare: The past couple nights I lay awake all night bitter and angry….and I can’t even pinpoint what I’m angry over.
I think I can help you with that.
Anger is one of the most necessary steps in becoming deprogrammed.
You are mostly mad at yourself for being duped by ALL of these Church-Taught teachers, who have been so horribly duped themselves. And, as you lay awake at night, you think about the efforts you, yourself have made… when you were inadvertently attempting to dupe others into this same erroneous nonsense — which, quite seriously, is 95% wrong.
You have been flown nowhere by first-century pilots, who did not understand our Destination. What is our destination? You know it well by now: Truly accepting what’s been done for us on the cross, 100%, with no “ifs,” “ands” or “buts.”
You managed, somehow, as a paying passenger, to survive the Plane Crash. Flown by a zealous, religious nut, who hijacked the airplane; yet, somehow, the Holy Spirit managed to smack what was in him quiet long enough for him to understand and write down the Destination.
However, quite suddenly, this (deep-down, wonderful-guy) almost-made-completely-wonderful-again (through-and-through) came to his “senses” (his Pharisee-Extremist senses) and he threw the Destination out the window… at 30,000 feet. For those of you who missed the 11-Oclock News… the result was catastrophic.
The Living God’s ever-enduring Savior of humanity SEES the Plane Crash from every angle (we’re talking, coverage WAY better than the 11-Oclock News). Jesus reported every bit of it — whatever you’d like to call it; “the reversal,” “the Plane Crash,” the catastrophe — long before it ever happened.
Our Christian hero (Saul/Paul/Rocky) flew the airplane up so quickly. Yet his roots were Pharisee-Withered and, alas, he wilted and crashed… in the hot sun.
We have yet to even discuss the details of what this Religion-bent nut put into motion, after he managed to walk AWAY from the Plane Crash. I briefly highlighted these issues for us. Here they are again: A manifesto teeming with judgment after judgment; hatred of the flesh, Life and self; a piling on of rules and regulations; the endeavor to be “Christ-like” (a concept found in no Gospel, which, if pursued, is doomed to failure for anyone but Christ); and the ultimate, becoming DEAD to one’s self.
The rest of you are far too gone to help sort out the outright mess that you have inherited (and that you embrace). Sure, go ahead and continue to post your thoughts. If they are even half helpful, I will address them. If not, they will be disregarded. @facetoface also had a half-helpful comment, out of the room’s most recent total barrage of sidetracking uselessness:
"If you hold to the substitutionary atonement theory like most Christians do, then the cross is made foolishness to you! They make God a debtor which is why these OSAS threads are prolific in Christian forums!"
Actually, the Substitutionary Atonement Theory makes God into an Eddie Murphy movie: “Trading Places.” And, the Satisfaction Atonement Theory makes God into a slave owner. ALL six of the Church’s “Atonement Theories” are idiotic and wrong.
Yes, Victory, we will cover ALL of the Church’s idiotic atonement theories. We’ll get them… soon enough.
As for OSAS? I do not use that idiotic, overused and unhelpful Church-Taught word — “saved.”
I use Jesus’ Words.
ORAR is the Truth.
Once RANSOMED always RANSOMED.
If I do post another “letter” in this room (after this one) that is the first Word we will cover in detail. RANSOM — if that is okay with VictoryinJesus.
@VictoryinJesus says: “I want to see what you speak of.”
I hope so. For, what I speak of are the Words of Jesus: RANSOM, AWAY, PERFECT, FREEDOM and ALL.
It is up to you Victory and to you alone, whether I stay in this room and continue this conversation… or whether I go elsewhere and start again. But, if I do stay, I will do so only under one condition. And, I need to know that you are okay with this one condition, Vic.
I will have this conversation with you, Victory, and with you alone.
The others are more than welcome to hide and watch. Sure… ALL you others (as I said), go ahead and continue to post your thoughts. If they are even half-helpful, I will address them. If not, they will be disregarded.
VictoryinJesus, after I respond to the “challenge” from the old lady who Lives in a Box, from then on out, I am hopeful WE will continue our conversation.
You write:
“You asked somewhere in the beginning what would be enough? To me it would be; to be healthy in the mind. And I don’t mean getting rid of MS…but what is truly making me ill and exhausted.”
Should you give me your approval, VictoryinJesus, the rhetorical question I am about to pose (and briefly answer), is an overview of where your statement may lead us:
How can ME simply TAKING what’s been done for me on the cross kill my personal knowledge of Good & Evil?
The exact same way you gave Life to it.
Psychologically.
It ALL starts with YOU — your very essence. YOU have been psychologically convinced — 100%, with no ifs, ands or buts — that some portion of YOU is evil. It matters not what percentage YOU consciously (or subconsciously) think is Evil — 98% or .00000001%. At some point, YOU came to accept that... a part of YOU... is flawed. Imperfect. Worse than flawed or imperfect. A part of YOU is *Evil.*
True acceptance of what's been done for us on the cross cures that exact, unhealthy mindset, instantly changing your way of thinking into a PERFECTLY healthy mindset.
So pray about my proposal, Victory, and let me know your answer. We will then take this in any direction you would like. By the questions you have asked, thus far, I am certain this endeavor will proceed in a positive direction. And, at long last, we will unbury and unwrap those wonderful Words of Jesus.
Then again, pulling ALL of the Weeds out of the way is equally important.
On to the matter of addressing L3astAmOngManyB13ss3d’s challenge. Stand warned, @ScottA. This is not going to be short. Yet… if you were able to make your way through Paul’s lengthy “ramblings” in his letters to the Corinthians (Part One and Part Two), this should be a breeze for you.
If I may post an important Truth, in advance:
There is no natural “evil-nature” within us.
On the contrary, it is remarkable how naturally GOOD and totally sinless we truly are with no conscience, guilt and fear based upon what we think is “Good” and what we think is “Evil.” Finally, you've heard the Truth. These are amazing Truths for us to know and understand. Only the Holy Spirit of the Living God of Light speaking through a Living true acceptor can make these Truths known to the world. We could have easily learned ALL these basic Truths two-thousand years ago — as early as the later part of the first century. Under PERFECT-Grace, the Holy Spirit leads us (naturally) into ALL Living Truth. Sadly, the very Lives of these basic Truths were cut short. Instant fatalities. They went down with the plane at Romans 6:16.
Although these Truths are part of the Good News, it is difficult for any Mature-Christian to de-cheese and embrace them. The true light these Truths shed upon the falsehood of “Original Sin” is too Real. Too bright. The true light these Truths shed upon our greatest Christian hero and brother, Paul, is too Real. Too bright. Cries Paul of Tarsus:
Romans 7:18 (Original Greek) “I know that there dwells nothing good in my flesh.”
Truly, a wonderfully great soul, despite his self-deprecating, self-disclaimer (stated directly above). The God’s-honest Truth? In Paul’s flesh lay the exact same makings that formed the creation of Adam’s flesh — the GOOD work of the Living God of Light.
Therefore, the falsehood — “There dwells nothing good in my flesh!” — comes to us not out of the God-Given soul of Paul. It comes to us from a very specific voice of Darkness, speaking out of Paul. A voice that kicks into high gear at Chapter 7 (immediately following Romans, Chapter 6, no less). The Holy Spirit has a name for this very specific voice of NOTHING — a voice which proceeds out of the Darkness, Itself:
“Miserable-Comforter.”
What else could be expected immediately following the Plane Crash? The very devilment that led John Calvin into his “total depravity” assessment of humanity:
We are ALL debase and perverted to the core.
Mind you, this is a collective judgment against ALL human beings.
VictoryinJesus, after I respond to the “challenge” from the old lady who Lives in a Box, from then on out, I am hopeful WE will continue our conversation.
You write:
“You asked somewhere in the beginning what would be enough? To me it would be; to be healthy in the mind. And I don’t mean getting rid of MS…but what is truly making me ill and exhausted.”
Should you give me your approval, VictoryinJesus, the rhetorical question I am about to pose (and briefly answer), is an overview of where your statement may lead us:
How can ME simply TAKING what’s been done for me on the cross kill my personal knowledge of Good & Evil?
The exact same way you gave Life to it.
Psychologically.
It ALL starts with YOU — your very essence. YOU have been psychologically convinced — 100%, with no ifs, ands or buts — that some portion of YOU is evil. It matters not what percentage YOU consciously (or subconsciously) think is Evil — 98% or .00000001%. At some point, YOU came to accept that... a part of YOU... is flawed. Imperfect. Worse than flawed or imperfect. A part of YOU is *Evil.*
True acceptance of what's been done for us on the cross cures that exact, unhealthy mindset, instantly changing your way of thinking into a PERFECTLY healthy mindset.
So pray about my proposal, Victory, and let me know your answer. We will then take this in any direction you would like. By the questions you have asked, thus far, I am certain this endeavor will proceed in a positive direction. And, at long last, we will unbury and unwrap those wonderful Words of Jesus.
Then again, pulling ALL of the Weeds out of the way is equally important.
On to the matter of addressing L3astAmOngManyB13ss3d’s challenge. Stand warned, @ScottA. This is not going to be short. Yet… if you were able to make your way through Paul’s lengthy “ramblings” in his letters to the Corinthians (Part One and Part Two), this should be a breeze for you.
If I may post an important Truth, in advance:
There is no natural “evil-nature” within us.
On the contrary, it is remarkable how naturally GOOD and totally sinless we truly are with no conscience, guilt and fear based upon what we think is “Good” and what we think is “Evil.” Finally, you've heard the Truth. These are amazing Truths for us to know and understand. Only the Holy Spirit of the Living God of Light speaking through a Living true acceptor can make these Truths known to the world. We could have easily learned ALL these basic Truths two-thousand years ago — as early as the later part of the first century. Under PERFECT-Grace, the Holy Spirit leads us (naturally) into ALL Living Truth. Sadly, the very Lives of these basic Truths were cut short. Instant fatalities. They went down with the plane at Romans 6:16.
Although these Truths are part of the Good News, it is difficult for any Mature-Christian to de-cheese and embrace them. The true light these Truths shed upon the falsehood of “Original Sin” is too Real. Too bright. The true light these Truths shed upon our greatest Christian hero and brother, Paul, is too Real. Too bright. Cries Paul of Tarsus:
Romans 7:18 (Original Greek) “I know that there dwells nothing good in my flesh.”
Truly, a wonderfully great soul, despite his self-deprecating, self-disclaimer (stated directly above). The God’s-honest Truth? In Paul’s flesh lay the exact same makings that formed the creation of Adam’s flesh — the GOOD work of the Living God of Light.
Therefore, the falsehood — “There dwells nothing good in my flesh!” — comes to us not out of the God-Given soul of Paul. It comes to us from a very specific voice of Darkness, speaking out of Paul. A voice that kicks into high gear at Chapter 7 (immediately following Romans, Chapter 6, no less). The Holy Spirit has a name for this very specific voice of NOTHING — a voice which proceeds out of the Darkness, Itself:
“Miserable-Comforter.”
What else could be expected immediately following the Plane Crash? The very devilment that led John Calvin into his “total depravity” assessment of humanity:
We are ALL debase and perverted to the core.
Mind you, this is a collective judgment against ALL human beings.
Attention Bible-Reader. Why should such noise be of any concern to you... as you merrily drive down Romans Highway? Why is “THERE IS NOTHING GOOD IN MY FLESH!” exactly like a foreign chunk of dirt stuck in your water pump? Clank! Clank! Clank!
Why is the red idiot-light on?
Because human beings are made by the Living God in His Own Image. Including our flesh and everything He placed within our flesh. As Jesus says:
Luke 11:40 (NIV) “Did not the One who made the outside make the inside also?”
Yet, Paul condemns what is in our flesh and... inadvertently... the One who made it. You want to learn how to test the Spirits? Always beware of this specific voice of Darkness wherever and whenever you hear it. Be alert to the red engine light. Recognize the voice of the Miserable Comforter:
“I know that there dwells nothing good in my flesh.”
Such statements are hurtful to our wellbeing and heartbreaking to our Father in Heaven Who created us. The deep cry of despair that truly accompanies these words of Darkness honestly comes out of us. As far back as humans are recorded on parchment.
Job, the book, is the oldest in the Bible. Job, the man, is one of four men (besides Jesus) whom, by his own rectitude, the Scriptures declare as PERFECT, upright and completely righteous. In response to Job’s anguish, Eliphaz the Termanite tries his best (actually, his worst) to convince Job, that Job’s level of righteousness is not PERFECT — that Job must have done something “wrong” to have brought ALL this calamity upon himself. Like Paul of Tarsus and John Calvin after him, Eliphaz (truly evident by these outbursts) is the puppet of Darkness. Eliphaz speaks against humanity, using the most miserable of ALL voices. The voice Jesus tells us is the exact opposite voice of the Holy Spirit (the Comforter). Only a voice completely opposing the Holy Spirit would assess our very nature as perverted and depraved. For, our Father in Heaven created our very nature. Therefore, wherever and whenever you hear this miserable voice... take caution.
Pull over. The red idiot light is on. Listen to the voice of the Miserable Comforter:
Job 15:14-16 (KJV) “What is man, that he should be clean? and he which is born of a woman, that he should be righteous? Behold, He (God) putteth no trust in His saints; yea, the Heavens are not clean in His sight. How much more abominable and filthy is man, which drinketh iniquity like water?”
What does Job say to Eliphaz, in return?
Job 16:1-2 (KJV) “Then Job answered and said, ‘I have heard many such things: Miserable Comforters are ye ALL.’”
Contrary to what the misguided Church teaches, we are ALL God’s children — we are ALL brothers and sisters. Whether we recognize our Father... or not. Allow the Words of the Holy Spirit, the GOOD Comforter, to put a cold cloth on the despair of our universal “condition.”
“Chill. Calm down. Cool out. Let it go. Think not of yourself nor even the worst person imaginable to you in such a harsh way of Darkness. For, you can trace every evil or sin associated with any one of you back to that person gaining The Knowledge of Good & Evil as his Master. Without Master Knowledge of Good & Evil, you simply cannot help but remain absolutely sinless.”
Adam and Eve are Scriptural proof. Both of them Lived PERFECTLY sinless Lives before gaining The Knowledge of Good & Evil and, consequentially, a conscience.
The Plane Crash is one of those HUGE pivotal moments in ALL of human history. It is why we are where we are at… today. And, yes, I think we should cover the brutal aftermath of the Plane Crash, in as much detail as VictoryinJesus would like… should she accept my proposal. I think it is important that we do see ALL of what came of it. However, that is up to her.
What L3astAmOngManyB13ss3d has requested, is very important as well. And, timely to this discussion. Plane crashes don’t just happen. They always happen for a reason. That is why the FAA investigates every plane crash with a fine tooth comb. And… this is precisely why every airplane is fitted with a little black box. Two black boxes, to be exact — one that monitors ALL the flight data on board, and a second one that records the pilot’s conversation in the cockpit.
We will now... concern ourselves... with the later. Playback those few minutes. Just before the crash... What happened?
In prelude to my detailed reconstruction of the Plane Crash itself (at the beginning of Post #226 in this thread), I wrote:
“From Romans 6:2 through Romans 6:13, it is ALL Team Darkness speaking — save for one phrase which had already been taught to Paul by the Holy Spirit. That we are to: ‘Walk in newness of Life.’ If you would like, I could diligently go into ALL of that stuff (just mentioned) in great detail.”
And so, The Box Lady pasted Chapter 6 on our walls, and said:
“Here is Romans chapter 6, see if you can rightly divide in context EXACTLY what is being said!”
Why is the red idiot-light on?
Because human beings are made by the Living God in His Own Image. Including our flesh and everything He placed within our flesh. As Jesus says:
Luke 11:40 (NIV) “Did not the One who made the outside make the inside also?”
Yet, Paul condemns what is in our flesh and... inadvertently... the One who made it. You want to learn how to test the Spirits? Always beware of this specific voice of Darkness wherever and whenever you hear it. Be alert to the red engine light. Recognize the voice of the Miserable Comforter:
“I know that there dwells nothing good in my flesh.”
Such statements are hurtful to our wellbeing and heartbreaking to our Father in Heaven Who created us. The deep cry of despair that truly accompanies these words of Darkness honestly comes out of us. As far back as humans are recorded on parchment.
Job, the book, is the oldest in the Bible. Job, the man, is one of four men (besides Jesus) whom, by his own rectitude, the Scriptures declare as PERFECT, upright and completely righteous. In response to Job’s anguish, Eliphaz the Termanite tries his best (actually, his worst) to convince Job, that Job’s level of righteousness is not PERFECT — that Job must have done something “wrong” to have brought ALL this calamity upon himself. Like Paul of Tarsus and John Calvin after him, Eliphaz (truly evident by these outbursts) is the puppet of Darkness. Eliphaz speaks against humanity, using the most miserable of ALL voices. The voice Jesus tells us is the exact opposite voice of the Holy Spirit (the Comforter). Only a voice completely opposing the Holy Spirit would assess our very nature as perverted and depraved. For, our Father in Heaven created our very nature. Therefore, wherever and whenever you hear this miserable voice... take caution.
Pull over. The red idiot light is on. Listen to the voice of the Miserable Comforter:
Job 15:14-16 (KJV) “What is man, that he should be clean? and he which is born of a woman, that he should be righteous? Behold, He (God) putteth no trust in His saints; yea, the Heavens are not clean in His sight. How much more abominable and filthy is man, which drinketh iniquity like water?”
What does Job say to Eliphaz, in return?
Job 16:1-2 (KJV) “Then Job answered and said, ‘I have heard many such things: Miserable Comforters are ye ALL.’”
Contrary to what the misguided Church teaches, we are ALL God’s children — we are ALL brothers and sisters. Whether we recognize our Father... or not. Allow the Words of the Holy Spirit, the GOOD Comforter, to put a cold cloth on the despair of our universal “condition.”
“Chill. Calm down. Cool out. Let it go. Think not of yourself nor even the worst person imaginable to you in such a harsh way of Darkness. For, you can trace every evil or sin associated with any one of you back to that person gaining The Knowledge of Good & Evil as his Master. Without Master Knowledge of Good & Evil, you simply cannot help but remain absolutely sinless.”
Adam and Eve are Scriptural proof. Both of them Lived PERFECTLY sinless Lives before gaining The Knowledge of Good & Evil and, consequentially, a conscience.
The Plane Crash is one of those HUGE pivotal moments in ALL of human history. It is why we are where we are at… today. And, yes, I think we should cover the brutal aftermath of the Plane Crash, in as much detail as VictoryinJesus would like… should she accept my proposal. I think it is important that we do see ALL of what came of it. However, that is up to her.
What L3astAmOngManyB13ss3d has requested, is very important as well. And, timely to this discussion. Plane crashes don’t just happen. They always happen for a reason. That is why the FAA investigates every plane crash with a fine tooth comb. And… this is precisely why every airplane is fitted with a little black box. Two black boxes, to be exact — one that monitors ALL the flight data on board, and a second one that records the pilot’s conversation in the cockpit.
We will now... concern ourselves... with the later. Playback those few minutes. Just before the crash... What happened?
In prelude to my detailed reconstruction of the Plane Crash itself (at the beginning of Post #226 in this thread), I wrote:
“From Romans 6:2 through Romans 6:13, it is ALL Team Darkness speaking — save for one phrase which had already been taught to Paul by the Holy Spirit. That we are to: ‘Walk in newness of Life.’ If you would like, I could diligently go into ALL of that stuff (just mentioned) in great detail.”
And so, The Box Lady pasted Chapter 6 on our walls, and said:
“Here is Romans chapter 6, see if you can rightly divide in context EXACTLY what is being said!”
Rocky II (Black-Box-Talk Before the Crash):
Romans 6:1 (Original Greek) “What then will we say? Should we continue in sin, that Grace may increase?”
Here, Rocky disproves the old adage about question-asking. A dumb question can be asked. Romans 6:1 (dumb question #1, directly above) is the first of two Rocky-Questions that should have NEVER been asked. (#2 is found at Romans 6:14)
Let’s carefully examine “the answer” to dumbass Question #1. Ever been driving down the road, listening to the radio coming in clear for miles and miles? A millisecond of static and... ALL of a sudden... another station starts coming in? Well... that is exactly what happens here:
Romans 6:2 (Original Greek) “May it never be. (Static) How can we who died to sin go on living in it?”
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to THE TEAM-DARKNESS CHANNEL.
The first part of Romans 6:2 is the pure Truth:
“May it never be.”
Never CAN be. It is impossible for a true acceptor to “continue in SIN” or to “Live in SIN.” For, ALL of his or her SIN — past, present and future — has been taken AWAY. See 1 John 3:9. The true acceptor CANNOT sin. Impossible for the true acceptor to do so under cross-earned righteousness, which ALWAYS equals PERFECT righteousness.
The second part of Romans 6:2 is the fatal lie. Rocky must have either failed to or was unable to “test the Spirits” here:
“We... who DIED”?
Truth is always found in Life. Never in Death. In True Death, there is NOTHING. No working, no planning, no wisdom, no knowledge.
I can already hear The Box Lady (as she gets her magnifying glass out). “You are not quoting Paul properly! Paul says, ‘We who died TO SIN.’”
“I beg to differ,” says I to Box Lady. The optimum part of the lie is, “We who DIED.” Rocky is speaking for “believers” AS a “believer.” Actually, Rocky is five verses AWAY from promoting DEATH as THE way for a “believer” to BECOME sinless. Tell him, Rock:
Romans 6:7 (KJV) “For he that is DEAD is FREED from sin.”
“He that is DEAD”? “We who DIED”? Take caution, “believer.” The red idiot light is on. Pull the car immediately over to the side of the road and ask the astute question:
If, “the wages of sin IS Death,” how can Death FREE us from sin?
Because Death FREES us from EVERYTHING (welcome to NOTHINGNESS).
Let’s borrow Box Lady’s magnifying glass to examine the engine. Hmmm. The engine looks just fine. This time the radio is ALL messed up.
Ready to clean up the mess? Are you REALLY ready? Turn off THE MESSED-UP TEAM-DARKNESS CHANNEL. It is not us (true acceptors) who have DIED to sin.
And, let’s tune in, once again, to THE TEAM-LIGHT CHANNEL:
It is (sin) that has DIED to us.
As true acceptors, ( ) is... no-longer here... for us to die to. IT is OUT of the equation. IT is buried and dead. IT is terminated. IT has been taken AWAY. We have PERFECT confidence in the wonderfully simple Word of Jesus — “AWAY.” As far as us DYING to anything, Team Light has NO dog in THAT race.
Take a clear look at what is happening at the beginning of Rocky’s Sixth Chapter of Romans. Team Darkness is resurrecting SIN and killing “the believer” in the process.
See the Wheat, which shot up so quickly? The Wheat is still standing in the first five and-a-half chapters of Rocky’s letter to the Romans. The Wheat stands REAL TALL once we take ALL the “might’s,” fancies, “beliefs” and religious garble to the curb. However, the Wheat, specifically the Word “AWAY,” is being wrapped up for final burial as we enter Romans, Chapter Six. (Might as well call it “Chapter Six-Six-Six.”) Team Darkness has entered into Rocky’s writing. An obvious fact to any true acceptor.
Why so obvious?
Because, to every true acceptor (sin) is DEAD. Yet, Rocky is back to talking and writing about SIN. As if, once again, SIN is alive. As if, once again, SIN is a Real thing that has NOT been taken AWAY. Paul is listening to the TEAM-DARKNESS CHANNEL, and “believers” are listening to Paul. SIN is on ITS way to making a powerful come-back in Rocky’s writing — resurrected and made strong.
“We, who DIED.”
“We”??? Hey, don’t look at ME. Whoever Rocky is including here, you can count ME out. As far as I’m concerned, Rocky has a dead mouse in his pocket. “We who DIED.” These are NOT the Words of the Holy Spirit. A true acceptor is not DEAD to anything. O Death is speaking here. O Death continues to speak as Chapter Six continues:
Romans 6:3 (Original Greek) “Are you ignorant as to the many who were baptized into Christ, Jesus? Into the DEATH of him they were baptized.”
Yes, Rocky, I AM ignorant as to this Baptism — the Baptism of Death. John the Baptist would proudly claim ignorance to it as well. Beyond off the-rails, this is off the deep end.
“Into the DEATH of him we are baptized.”
Verily, verily... off the deep end. There is NO Scriptural precedence for such an absurdity. Beyond absurd. This is Diabolical. This is not coming from somewhere out in left field. This is coming from nowhere. This bamboozlement (this lie) comes directly from NOTHING. Death is NOT what baptism is about. As with EVERYTHING associated with Team Light, baptism is ALL about LIFE. We are not baptized “into the DEATH” of Jesus. We are not baptized INTO anything — not even into “Christ, Jesus.” Baptism is a demonstration of rebirth, represented with water (which is Eternal). We are not KILLED in the water. We are BORN in the water. John the Baptist’s Living Parable (the baptism ceremony) symbolizes what both he and Jesus constantly proclaim. Metanoeo! The dunking represents the change of mind. An inundated immersion — for, the change of mind is ALL-encompassing. Then coming out of the water — “Born AGAIN.” Joining the world PERFECTLY unsoiled by the consequences of The Knowledge of Good & Evil.
This is LIFE-Eternal.
Not DEATH.
Romans 6:1 (Original Greek) “What then will we say? Should we continue in sin, that Grace may increase?”
Here, Rocky disproves the old adage about question-asking. A dumb question can be asked. Romans 6:1 (dumb question #1, directly above) is the first of two Rocky-Questions that should have NEVER been asked. (#2 is found at Romans 6:14)
Let’s carefully examine “the answer” to dumbass Question #1. Ever been driving down the road, listening to the radio coming in clear for miles and miles? A millisecond of static and... ALL of a sudden... another station starts coming in? Well... that is exactly what happens here:
Romans 6:2 (Original Greek) “May it never be. (Static) How can we who died to sin go on living in it?”
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to THE TEAM-DARKNESS CHANNEL.
The first part of Romans 6:2 is the pure Truth:
“May it never be.”
Never CAN be. It is impossible for a true acceptor to “continue in SIN” or to “Live in SIN.” For, ALL of his or her SIN — past, present and future — has been taken AWAY. See 1 John 3:9. The true acceptor CANNOT sin. Impossible for the true acceptor to do so under cross-earned righteousness, which ALWAYS equals PERFECT righteousness.
The second part of Romans 6:2 is the fatal lie. Rocky must have either failed to or was unable to “test the Spirits” here:
“We... who DIED”?
Truth is always found in Life. Never in Death. In True Death, there is NOTHING. No working, no planning, no wisdom, no knowledge.
I can already hear The Box Lady (as she gets her magnifying glass out). “You are not quoting Paul properly! Paul says, ‘We who died TO SIN.’”
“I beg to differ,” says I to Box Lady. The optimum part of the lie is, “We who DIED.” Rocky is speaking for “believers” AS a “believer.” Actually, Rocky is five verses AWAY from promoting DEATH as THE way for a “believer” to BECOME sinless. Tell him, Rock:
Romans 6:7 (KJV) “For he that is DEAD is FREED from sin.”
“He that is DEAD”? “We who DIED”? Take caution, “believer.” The red idiot light is on. Pull the car immediately over to the side of the road and ask the astute question:
If, “the wages of sin IS Death,” how can Death FREE us from sin?
Because Death FREES us from EVERYTHING (welcome to NOTHINGNESS).
Let’s borrow Box Lady’s magnifying glass to examine the engine. Hmmm. The engine looks just fine. This time the radio is ALL messed up.
Ready to clean up the mess? Are you REALLY ready? Turn off THE MESSED-UP TEAM-DARKNESS CHANNEL. It is not us (true acceptors) who have DIED to sin.
And, let’s tune in, once again, to THE TEAM-LIGHT CHANNEL:
It is (sin) that has DIED to us.
As true acceptors, ( ) is... no-longer here... for us to die to. IT is OUT of the equation. IT is buried and dead. IT is terminated. IT has been taken AWAY. We have PERFECT confidence in the wonderfully simple Word of Jesus — “AWAY.” As far as us DYING to anything, Team Light has NO dog in THAT race.
Take a clear look at what is happening at the beginning of Rocky’s Sixth Chapter of Romans. Team Darkness is resurrecting SIN and killing “the believer” in the process.
See the Wheat, which shot up so quickly? The Wheat is still standing in the first five and-a-half chapters of Rocky’s letter to the Romans. The Wheat stands REAL TALL once we take ALL the “might’s,” fancies, “beliefs” and religious garble to the curb. However, the Wheat, specifically the Word “AWAY,” is being wrapped up for final burial as we enter Romans, Chapter Six. (Might as well call it “Chapter Six-Six-Six.”) Team Darkness has entered into Rocky’s writing. An obvious fact to any true acceptor.
Why so obvious?
Because, to every true acceptor (sin) is DEAD. Yet, Rocky is back to talking and writing about SIN. As if, once again, SIN is alive. As if, once again, SIN is a Real thing that has NOT been taken AWAY. Paul is listening to the TEAM-DARKNESS CHANNEL, and “believers” are listening to Paul. SIN is on ITS way to making a powerful come-back in Rocky’s writing — resurrected and made strong.
“We, who DIED.”
“We”??? Hey, don’t look at ME. Whoever Rocky is including here, you can count ME out. As far as I’m concerned, Rocky has a dead mouse in his pocket. “We who DIED.” These are NOT the Words of the Holy Spirit. A true acceptor is not DEAD to anything. O Death is speaking here. O Death continues to speak as Chapter Six continues:
Romans 6:3 (Original Greek) “Are you ignorant as to the many who were baptized into Christ, Jesus? Into the DEATH of him they were baptized.”
Yes, Rocky, I AM ignorant as to this Baptism — the Baptism of Death. John the Baptist would proudly claim ignorance to it as well. Beyond off the-rails, this is off the deep end.
“Into the DEATH of him we are baptized.”
Verily, verily... off the deep end. There is NO Scriptural precedence for such an absurdity. Beyond absurd. This is Diabolical. This is not coming from somewhere out in left field. This is coming from nowhere. This bamboozlement (this lie) comes directly from NOTHING. Death is NOT what baptism is about. As with EVERYTHING associated with Team Light, baptism is ALL about LIFE. We are not baptized “into the DEATH” of Jesus. We are not baptized INTO anything — not even into “Christ, Jesus.” Baptism is a demonstration of rebirth, represented with water (which is Eternal). We are not KILLED in the water. We are BORN in the water. John the Baptist’s Living Parable (the baptism ceremony) symbolizes what both he and Jesus constantly proclaim. Metanoeo! The dunking represents the change of mind. An inundated immersion — for, the change of mind is ALL-encompassing. Then coming out of the water — “Born AGAIN.” Joining the world PERFECTLY unsoiled by the consequences of The Knowledge of Good & Evil.
This is LIFE-Eternal.
Not DEATH.
With this utterance: “Into the DEATH of Jesus they were baptized,” there is no doubt, O Death has superseded ALL other voices in Rocky’s head. The Father of Darkness has just commandeered the front of this bus.
Box Lady asks, “How can you possibly know that, for certain?”
Because, Rocky does not go insane until Chapter Seven. Here (in Chapter Six) Rocky is still both rational and lucid. No “voice” of rational MAN can lucidly suggest nor wisely imagine, putting himself... INTO... anyone else’s death. This Voice further suggests that we were “buried” with Jesus (Romans 6:4). This is the Enemy (O Grave) talking here.
The Truth? Jesus’ resurrection is unique to Jesus and to Jesus alone. What Paul writes would be a total lie without “the glory of” thrown in. Still, it is a muddling of the Truth to suggest that “the Father raised Jesus from the dead.” Jesus raised HIMSELF from the dead:
John 2:19 (KJV) “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”
John 10:17-18 (KJV) “Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.”
Either Team Darkness is muddling the Truth (at Romans 6:4) or Jesus is the “boasting liar” the Pharisees claim he is (at John 2:20). My money is on Team Darkness muddling the Truth at Romans 6:4. IT loves mixing Truth with deceit. ALL these lies associated with “the baptism of DEATH” are attached to one Truth. “Walking in the newness of Life.” Now, THOSE Words ARE the Truth. Those Words ARE the Words of the Holy Spirit... attached to this garbage:
Romans 6:4 (KJV) “Therefore we were buried with him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.”
Keep in mind, Jesus really DIED for our sins. As in, graveyard DEAD. This is the voice of NOTHING, putting Rocky (and anyone who “believes” what Rocky is saying) with Jesus in his death and in his grave. Soon enough, within Rocky’s up and coming manifesto, this Diabolical premise inspires Rocky to put himself and his “believers” with Jesus on the cross. A theological delusion. Rocky ends up “believing” that he actually was crucified with Jesus — that we ALL were. Thus: “The Rocky-Horror Atonement Theory”: “YOU” Has Been Crucified Out Of You. So that Vampire-Christ can come in and eternally possesses the shell that has been totally flushed clean... of YOU — every aspect of YOU. (Spoiler alert: Rocky’s up-and-coming Chapter 7) “There is nothing *Good* about (YOU) in your flesh.” Thus, “YOU” must be completely replaced... with “Christ.”
This idea (a pretty good one for a horror movie) is diametrically opposed to the Truth. Jesus died for ME to have Life — so that I will never have to die. So that I will never taste death. Jesus did ALL that for YOU, too, Box Lady.
Common Sense responds, “We will ALL taste death. One day, you are going to die and leave your body behind.”
To the ignorant, it will APPEAR as though I have. For, ignorance does not understand that ALL of Time is happening at the same time. Between our births and our deaths is every moment of our Lives, still happening. Every person who ever Lived is still alive IN FLESH, BLOOD AND BONES on the Present Line. Oh? Do you think I am out of touch with Reality? Abraham, Isaac and Jacob — no different from us — are human beings. It appears (to the ignorant) that these human beings of flesh & blood are dead and gone:
Matthew 22:32 (KJV) “(Jesus said,) ‘Have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, “I AM the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?” God is not the God of the dead, but of the Living.’”
Christianity is what is “out of touch with Reality.” We are not resurrected out of DEATH. We are each resurrected out of our LIVES. A Truth of Life we should readily know. However, our Knowledge of Heaven & Earth is painfully lacking; for, our pursuit of The Knowledge of Good & Evil has made us mentally retarded (due to brain cancer).
Let’s get back to Romans, Chapter Six, verse five. Team Darkness yields to Rocky.
Yes, once again, Rocky is driving the bus.
He reviews his writing in stoic wonder. Rocky admires the off-the-wall “genius” of what he has just miraculously reduced to papyrus. Yet, he is still grounded-enough (at this point) NOT to take O Death’s parody of “redemption” literally. And, so, Rocky directs his literary skills to the task of rephrasing Romans 6:5 to read as if he were not speaking literally. (Give it time, Rock, in a few chapters you WILL be speaking about “The Rocky-Horror Atonement Theory” literally.) For now, Creative-Rocky is trying his best to wordsmith Romans 6:5 into a *Good* metaphor. Hey Rock! What is a *Good* metaphor for “the rotting grave” that sounds… nice? Like dead-fish & cow-manure, we are “planted” together as compost...
In a lovely field?
No, Rock. Try again.
In a beautiful garden?
No, Rocky. This is the grave you are talking about. Yes, Rocky finally finds a sounds-nice-to-“believers,” happy-face metaphor: to “plant us together in the likeness of Jesus’ DEATH.”
As if, entering DEATH, is something “special” for Jesus. Death is Death, Box Lady. Jesus DIED for our sins. To fulfill his Mission, Jesus went to Sheol. What does that mean? Scripture, endowed by the very wisdom of GOD, declares that Jesus went to NOTHING. For three days, Jesus became... NOTHING. Rocky is clueless to these Truths (as are those whom Rocky teaches):
Romans 6:5 (KJV) “For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his DEATH, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection.”
(Buzzer sound!) Wrong. As Jesus would say, “Verily, verily” wrong. The Resurrection of Jesus is amazingly unique to Jesus and to Jesus alone.
Box Lady asks, “How can you possibly know that, for certain?”
Because, Rocky does not go insane until Chapter Seven. Here (in Chapter Six) Rocky is still both rational and lucid. No “voice” of rational MAN can lucidly suggest nor wisely imagine, putting himself... INTO... anyone else’s death. This Voice further suggests that we were “buried” with Jesus (Romans 6:4). This is the Enemy (O Grave) talking here.
The Truth? Jesus’ resurrection is unique to Jesus and to Jesus alone. What Paul writes would be a total lie without “the glory of” thrown in. Still, it is a muddling of the Truth to suggest that “the Father raised Jesus from the dead.” Jesus raised HIMSELF from the dead:
John 2:19 (KJV) “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”
John 10:17-18 (KJV) “Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.”
Either Team Darkness is muddling the Truth (at Romans 6:4) or Jesus is the “boasting liar” the Pharisees claim he is (at John 2:20). My money is on Team Darkness muddling the Truth at Romans 6:4. IT loves mixing Truth with deceit. ALL these lies associated with “the baptism of DEATH” are attached to one Truth. “Walking in the newness of Life.” Now, THOSE Words ARE the Truth. Those Words ARE the Words of the Holy Spirit... attached to this garbage:
Romans 6:4 (KJV) “Therefore we were buried with him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.”
Keep in mind, Jesus really DIED for our sins. As in, graveyard DEAD. This is the voice of NOTHING, putting Rocky (and anyone who “believes” what Rocky is saying) with Jesus in his death and in his grave. Soon enough, within Rocky’s up and coming manifesto, this Diabolical premise inspires Rocky to put himself and his “believers” with Jesus on the cross. A theological delusion. Rocky ends up “believing” that he actually was crucified with Jesus — that we ALL were. Thus: “The Rocky-Horror Atonement Theory”: “YOU” Has Been Crucified Out Of You. So that Vampire-Christ can come in and eternally possesses the shell that has been totally flushed clean... of YOU — every aspect of YOU. (Spoiler alert: Rocky’s up-and-coming Chapter 7) “There is nothing *Good* about (YOU) in your flesh.” Thus, “YOU” must be completely replaced... with “Christ.”
This idea (a pretty good one for a horror movie) is diametrically opposed to the Truth. Jesus died for ME to have Life — so that I will never have to die. So that I will never taste death. Jesus did ALL that for YOU, too, Box Lady.
Common Sense responds, “We will ALL taste death. One day, you are going to die and leave your body behind.”
To the ignorant, it will APPEAR as though I have. For, ignorance does not understand that ALL of Time is happening at the same time. Between our births and our deaths is every moment of our Lives, still happening. Every person who ever Lived is still alive IN FLESH, BLOOD AND BONES on the Present Line. Oh? Do you think I am out of touch with Reality? Abraham, Isaac and Jacob — no different from us — are human beings. It appears (to the ignorant) that these human beings of flesh & blood are dead and gone:
Matthew 22:32 (KJV) “(Jesus said,) ‘Have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, “I AM the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?” God is not the God of the dead, but of the Living.’”
Christianity is what is “out of touch with Reality.” We are not resurrected out of DEATH. We are each resurrected out of our LIVES. A Truth of Life we should readily know. However, our Knowledge of Heaven & Earth is painfully lacking; for, our pursuit of The Knowledge of Good & Evil has made us mentally retarded (due to brain cancer).
Let’s get back to Romans, Chapter Six, verse five. Team Darkness yields to Rocky.
Yes, once again, Rocky is driving the bus.
He reviews his writing in stoic wonder. Rocky admires the off-the-wall “genius” of what he has just miraculously reduced to papyrus. Yet, he is still grounded-enough (at this point) NOT to take O Death’s parody of “redemption” literally. And, so, Rocky directs his literary skills to the task of rephrasing Romans 6:5 to read as if he were not speaking literally. (Give it time, Rock, in a few chapters you WILL be speaking about “The Rocky-Horror Atonement Theory” literally.) For now, Creative-Rocky is trying his best to wordsmith Romans 6:5 into a *Good* metaphor. Hey Rock! What is a *Good* metaphor for “the rotting grave” that sounds… nice? Like dead-fish & cow-manure, we are “planted” together as compost...
In a lovely field?
No, Rock. Try again.
In a beautiful garden?
No, Rocky. This is the grave you are talking about. Yes, Rocky finally finds a sounds-nice-to-“believers,” happy-face metaphor: to “plant us together in the likeness of Jesus’ DEATH.”
As if, entering DEATH, is something “special” for Jesus. Death is Death, Box Lady. Jesus DIED for our sins. To fulfill his Mission, Jesus went to Sheol. What does that mean? Scripture, endowed by the very wisdom of GOD, declares that Jesus went to NOTHING. For three days, Jesus became... NOTHING. Rocky is clueless to these Truths (as are those whom Rocky teaches):
Romans 6:5 (KJV) “For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his DEATH, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection.”
(Buzzer sound!) Wrong. As Jesus would say, “Verily, verily” wrong. The Resurrection of Jesus is amazingly unique to Jesus and to Jesus alone.
Rocky’s ignorance, as well as the vast majority of human ignorance (to date) is not that we do not understand True Death — relative to us seeing... death... in Life. In other words, from our Living-In-The-Physical-World perspective, seeing someone who has died. No. Humanity’s ignorance lies in our lack of understanding of what True Life is; for, we do not understand how Time works. Deep down, beneath ALL the stupid, religious fairytales (many of them taught to us by Rocky), we ALL have a natural sense of what is True Death. Anything mortal is instinctively aware of IT. Animals. Humans. We ALL have a powerful instinct about True Death. An instinct which translates into a healthy understanding of exactly what... IT... truly “is.” IT is NOTHINGNESS. (Or... IT is Hell.) Solomon, the world’s wisest man of his Time, plainly confirms to us what IT “is”... to "rest in peace":
Ecclesiastes 9:10 (HIV) “Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with ALL your might, for in the realm of the DEAD, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom.”
Our “salvation” is found in the Reality of EVERYTHING. Time is Life. And, ALL of Time is happening at the same time. Life is EVERYTHING. Death is NOTHING.
Here (in the midst of being inspired by O Death/O Grave) is where Rocky blurts out his Old-Man-Concept (Romans 6:6). A concept that appears out of nowhere. The human body, in and of itself, is a Sin-Factory. Such a “belief” is truly inspired by Darkness. For, the human body (flesh, blood and bone) is the very Creation of the Living God, Who looks upon us from the Most High and proclaims His assessment of the human body:
“Very GOOD.”
Yet, Rocky is conned by the Forces of Darkness into seeing our fleshly bodies as “Very EVIL.” Furthermore, Rocky is conned into JUDGING that the way for “a believer” to “not serve SIN” is for his “body of SIN” to be “destroyed.” By crucifixion, yet:
Romans 6:6 (KJV) “Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.”
If Rocky ever WAS a true acceptor, he was not one long enough for the GOOD nutrients of PERFECT-Grace to feed his withered and shallow roots.
The tell-tale sign that you have PERFECT-Grace on the inside is that you cannot help but give PERFECT-Grace to everyone on the outside. Not that you are compelled to preach it. Rather, if you have it, you cannot help but practice it. You GIVE the same measure that you get. For, you GET the same measure that you give. These ARE the truthful Words of the Good Shepherd.
Aside from the first five and-a-half chapters of Romans, Rocky is not a shepherd. Rocky is a sheep. And, know this. A sheep, feeding the sheep, is the same as the blind, leading the blind. Worse, Rocky is a sheep taught not by the Shepherd. Never lose sight of Rocky’s ROOTS. Rocky is a sheep taught by a murdering pack of wolves. Men, turned into animals. Slaves to Organized Religion. Idiots, who stone people to death. The idiot light is blaring RED. Recognize it for what it truly is:
“DESTROYING the body of sin.” “CRUCIFYING the ‘old man’.”
This is textbook Pharisee-Extremist-Dogma. Page One: Sprucing-Up the neighborhood.
Subsection A:
Question: How does Master Law dictate that we (as good Pharisees) deal with Sin among us?
Answer: Harshly. By putting the sinner to death.
Only, instead of encircling the “old man” with a sanctimonious lynch mob and stoning him to death, Rocky concocts the perverted idea of killing the “old man” by crucifying him to death... with Jesus.
Throughout the entirety of what is documented to have come out of Jesus’ mouth, there IS NO: sprucing-yourself-up by ripping the “old man” out of the man. Jesus PERFECTLY describes the transition of the true acceptor in one simple Word. Metanoeo. You change your way of THINKING. This does NOT mean that you change your nature. Or, as Rocky, the ever-suffering, Pharisee-Extremist suggests, “Nail the ‘old-man’ to a cross and torture him to death.” This does NOT mean: We are to change our “lustful” flesh. Or, as Rocky, the Pharisee-Extremist suggests: “Destroy your body of sin.”
For ANYONE who religiously buys-into such madness, how does Rocky’s prescription actually go about changing our God-Given human nature? It doesn’t. Our God-Given human nature IS our God-Given HUMAN nature. Period. Those who have tried and given up on the Paul-Madness agree: It only afflicted our nature in anguish. In ongoing working-practice? Ditto. The testimony of every Paul-Embracing Mature-Christian includes the same tell-tale fact: We struggle with SIN on a daily basis.
God PERFECTLY designed our nature. Yet, our nature is easily consumed by our danger. MAN comes into this world the best a man can possibly be, aka: PERFECT. Uncomplicated by our danger (“our danger” being the consequences of becoming the obedient Slave of Master Knowledge of Good & Evil). The man who truly accepts What’s-Been-Done-For-Us-On-the-Cross does not kill the “old man.” Rather, he becomes the young man — the youngest man a man can be. And, what IS the youngest man a man can be? We have discussed it extensively. He resets his Factory Setting. He becomes... what? He becomes like a LITTLE child. Jesus gives us a wonderfully simple Word to describe exactly what he becomes. PERFECT. He is born again (not conceived again). For, MAN is conceived by GOD — the best a man can get.
MAN can think. How well? VERY well. So well, MAN can do anything he sets his mind to. MAN also has imagination. Therefore, MAN can conceive a razor. MAN has hands. Therefore, MAN can invent a razor. MAN can invent a razor factory. And, in that factory, MAN can make the nature of a razor. MAN can make the nature of a razor “Good.” How Good? VERY Good. So Good, MAN can actually THINK he has invented the most PERFECT razor the world has ever seen. When MAN goes about advertising this razor to the world, what does he THINK to call it? “The best a man can get.”
And, yet... MAN does not THINK so highly of himself.
GOD created MAN. And, just like MAN’S razor company, GOD advertises His Creation — the body of MAN, the flesh of MAN and the nature of MAN. What does God think to call ALL of this? “Very GOOD.” Aka: PERFECT. Aka: The best a man can get.
But, no; Rocky insists that our God-Given bodies are Evil; in turn, the Church invents its own coinciding dogma: From conception, our bodies are riddled to our members in sin — the worst a man can get. To get to Heaven, we must “destroy the body of sin.”
Ecclesiastes 9:10 (HIV) “Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with ALL your might, for in the realm of the DEAD, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom.”
Our “salvation” is found in the Reality of EVERYTHING. Time is Life. And, ALL of Time is happening at the same time. Life is EVERYTHING. Death is NOTHING.
Here (in the midst of being inspired by O Death/O Grave) is where Rocky blurts out his Old-Man-Concept (Romans 6:6). A concept that appears out of nowhere. The human body, in and of itself, is a Sin-Factory. Such a “belief” is truly inspired by Darkness. For, the human body (flesh, blood and bone) is the very Creation of the Living God, Who looks upon us from the Most High and proclaims His assessment of the human body:
“Very GOOD.”
Yet, Rocky is conned by the Forces of Darkness into seeing our fleshly bodies as “Very EVIL.” Furthermore, Rocky is conned into JUDGING that the way for “a believer” to “not serve SIN” is for his “body of SIN” to be “destroyed.” By crucifixion, yet:
Romans 6:6 (KJV) “Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.”
If Rocky ever WAS a true acceptor, he was not one long enough for the GOOD nutrients of PERFECT-Grace to feed his withered and shallow roots.
The tell-tale sign that you have PERFECT-Grace on the inside is that you cannot help but give PERFECT-Grace to everyone on the outside. Not that you are compelled to preach it. Rather, if you have it, you cannot help but practice it. You GIVE the same measure that you get. For, you GET the same measure that you give. These ARE the truthful Words of the Good Shepherd.
Aside from the first five and-a-half chapters of Romans, Rocky is not a shepherd. Rocky is a sheep. And, know this. A sheep, feeding the sheep, is the same as the blind, leading the blind. Worse, Rocky is a sheep taught not by the Shepherd. Never lose sight of Rocky’s ROOTS. Rocky is a sheep taught by a murdering pack of wolves. Men, turned into animals. Slaves to Organized Religion. Idiots, who stone people to death. The idiot light is blaring RED. Recognize it for what it truly is:
“DESTROYING the body of sin.” “CRUCIFYING the ‘old man’.”
This is textbook Pharisee-Extremist-Dogma. Page One: Sprucing-Up the neighborhood.
Subsection A:
Question: How does Master Law dictate that we (as good Pharisees) deal with Sin among us?
Answer: Harshly. By putting the sinner to death.
Only, instead of encircling the “old man” with a sanctimonious lynch mob and stoning him to death, Rocky concocts the perverted idea of killing the “old man” by crucifying him to death... with Jesus.
Throughout the entirety of what is documented to have come out of Jesus’ mouth, there IS NO: sprucing-yourself-up by ripping the “old man” out of the man. Jesus PERFECTLY describes the transition of the true acceptor in one simple Word. Metanoeo. You change your way of THINKING. This does NOT mean that you change your nature. Or, as Rocky, the ever-suffering, Pharisee-Extremist suggests, “Nail the ‘old-man’ to a cross and torture him to death.” This does NOT mean: We are to change our “lustful” flesh. Or, as Rocky, the Pharisee-Extremist suggests: “Destroy your body of sin.”
For ANYONE who religiously buys-into such madness, how does Rocky’s prescription actually go about changing our God-Given human nature? It doesn’t. Our God-Given human nature IS our God-Given HUMAN nature. Period. Those who have tried and given up on the Paul-Madness agree: It only afflicted our nature in anguish. In ongoing working-practice? Ditto. The testimony of every Paul-Embracing Mature-Christian includes the same tell-tale fact: We struggle with SIN on a daily basis.
God PERFECTLY designed our nature. Yet, our nature is easily consumed by our danger. MAN comes into this world the best a man can possibly be, aka: PERFECT. Uncomplicated by our danger (“our danger” being the consequences of becoming the obedient Slave of Master Knowledge of Good & Evil). The man who truly accepts What’s-Been-Done-For-Us-On-the-Cross does not kill the “old man.” Rather, he becomes the young man — the youngest man a man can be. And, what IS the youngest man a man can be? We have discussed it extensively. He resets his Factory Setting. He becomes... what? He becomes like a LITTLE child. Jesus gives us a wonderfully simple Word to describe exactly what he becomes. PERFECT. He is born again (not conceived again). For, MAN is conceived by GOD — the best a man can get.
MAN can think. How well? VERY well. So well, MAN can do anything he sets his mind to. MAN also has imagination. Therefore, MAN can conceive a razor. MAN has hands. Therefore, MAN can invent a razor. MAN can invent a razor factory. And, in that factory, MAN can make the nature of a razor. MAN can make the nature of a razor “Good.” How Good? VERY Good. So Good, MAN can actually THINK he has invented the most PERFECT razor the world has ever seen. When MAN goes about advertising this razor to the world, what does he THINK to call it? “The best a man can get.”
And, yet... MAN does not THINK so highly of himself.
GOD created MAN. And, just like MAN’S razor company, GOD advertises His Creation — the body of MAN, the flesh of MAN and the nature of MAN. What does God think to call ALL of this? “Very GOOD.” Aka: PERFECT. Aka: The best a man can get.
But, no; Rocky insists that our God-Given bodies are Evil; in turn, the Church invents its own coinciding dogma: From conception, our bodies are riddled to our members in sin — the worst a man can get. To get to Heaven, we must “destroy the body of sin.”
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