The Gog and Magog Russia Putin part I have mentioned before is under a dispensationalist futurist assumption, which assumes that the prophecy has not come true. Recently, a friend of mine has shown strong evidence that Gog and Magog has already happened, preterism, and is just history in the past. Right now, eschatologically speaking, I believe in full preterism, which is defined as
101 Preterist Time-Indicators in the New Testament – Preterist Archives
Full preterism is the view that all eschatological events necessary to secure complete redemption for all believers, past, present, and future have been fulfilled.
Thus, I’ve realized that all end times Bible prophecies have already come true. Because all eschatological events were created to secure a “complete redemption” for believers. Therefore, when someone believes in Christ, they are already fully redeemed. It was already finished in the Destruction of the Temple at 70 AD by Titus.
Of course, there are still people in this day who do not yet believe. However, when they believe, they are already completely redeemed by the Holy Spirit. In Genesis 15:6, Abraham believed in God and it was counted as righteousness, thus saved. A prophecy of the future for Christ to come. Incomplete redemption as Jesus did not die yet. Now, Christ has already died for our sins, thus the prophecy has been fulfilled, and all those in the past are completely redeemed. So, when someone believes, they are completely redeemed.
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My friend has shown me preterism and it has very strong evidence pointing in favour of it! As such, as of March 30 2023, I have gone back to my previous futurist dispensationalist assumption posts on Tentmaker and have added the following disclaimer to them.
This is under the assumption that Gog and Magog prophecy hasn't already been fulfilled (a dispensationalist futurist assumption). Under preterism, the Gog and Magog prophecy is ancient history and has already been fulfilled. The video series below discusses very strong points about the last days having already occurred.
Russia attacked Poland, a NATO member.
Vladmir Putin prophesied? (Ukraine and Russia war)
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Edit: I create this update since a friend of mine pointed this out to me. In Ezekiel, I mentioned a dispensationalist futurist view point, which assumed that the prophecy of Gog and Magog had not been fulfilled. However, from a preterist view point, which has strong arguments from what I've seen (see video series below), Gog and Magog is ancient history and has already been fulfilled.
Below is the email response I wrote that convinced me to make this article
Ohhh, and on 32 it says “generation”. Human life spans are typically last as much as 120 Genesis 6:3. Mark 13:30 and Matthew 24:34 mention this same “generation” too! So, it appears those events were fulfilled within those 120 years in the past, like Gog and Magog, which has already been fulfilled.
Very interesting video series! So the last days, which has already happened, is the 70th week of Daniel:9! A lot of “sevens” in that chapter. Interesting how the temple was destroyed in AD 70 by Titus, another seven. Ahh… now I can see the issue with using trying to get history that has already happened and say it has not. A lot of dispensationalism is popular, so it can be tricky to get out of the mindset. My earliest views of eschatology was with dispensationalism, just like how my earliest views of salvation was ECT. How unfortunate that the truth, like UR, is not well known to this generation.
5:46 of this video talks about that generation in a way I find interesting.
Very strong evidence from this video series. Now… I am in a tricky situation, due to my past postings of Gog and Magog. Well… due to the discovery of this information, the least I can do is this my friend :)
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Vladmir Putin prophesied? (Ukraine and Russia war)
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I have gone to my dispensationalist futurist assumption posts about Gog and Magog and added a disclaimer to them, and posted a link to this preterist video series. I value this information you have given to me greatly. Those are what I can find at the moment. While those posts are already posted, the least I can do is to provide that follow-up in light of this new “revelation” that you have shown me, so to speak. <3
I have made mistakes in the past, I used to believe in ECT and Annihilationism. And… I don’t know exactly how many of my beliefs are true or false. And to be honest, it can be scary thinking about how many of my beliefs may be wrong. Though, I know sola fida, eternal security, UR is true, that’s for sure! However, I believe in scripture, which is truth and scriptural evidence, like what you’ve shown me in favour of preterism. And I think, over time through reading and rereading the Bible, we learn more and more of God’s truth.
Thank you very much for providing me with these findings, brother. I am grateful to have met you.
Thanks for sharing my friend. It's over ten years later, and today, I also had a preterist exchange with a friend, for a while over email that I met on a Zoom call. In terms of eschatology, out of all the views, right now at this moment I see strong arguments that show preterism is true.
It's tricky because, I have made futurist dispensationalist assumption posts in the past. I've gone ahead and added disclaimers to them on Tentmaker, it's the least I can do. But I am convinced by scripture above all, and I try to let go of any bias I may have.
In terms of pride, I also suffer with that a bit. But then I remember that I falsely believed in Eternal Concious Torment and Annihlationism too. Albeit, I discovered Preterism after UR, but the concept is the same. Bible proofs lead to truth!
101 Preterist Time-Indicators in the New Testament – Preterist Archives
Full preterism is the view that all eschatological events necessary to secure complete redemption for all believers, past, present, and future have been fulfilled.
Thus, I’ve realized that all end times Bible prophecies have already come true. Because all eschatological events were created to secure a “complete redemption” for believers. Therefore, when someone believes in Christ, they are already fully redeemed. It was already finished in the Destruction of the Temple at 70 AD by Titus.
Of course, there are still people in this day who do not yet believe. However, when they believe, they are already completely redeemed by the Holy Spirit. In Genesis 15:6, Abraham believed in God and it was counted as righteousness, thus saved. A prophecy of the future for Christ to come. Incomplete redemption as Jesus did not die yet. Now, Christ has already died for our sins, thus the prophecy has been fulfilled, and all those in the past are completely redeemed. So, when someone believes, they are completely redeemed.
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www.fulfilledcg.com
My friend has shown me preterism and it has very strong evidence pointing in favour of it! As such, as of March 30 2023, I have gone back to my previous futurist dispensationalist assumption posts on Tentmaker and have added the following disclaimer to them.
This is under the assumption that Gog and Magog prophecy hasn't already been fulfilled (a dispensationalist futurist assumption). Under preterism, the Gog and Magog prophecy is ancient history and has already been fulfilled. The video series below discusses very strong points about the last days having already occurred.
Russia attacked Poland, a NATO member.
Vladmir Putin prophesied? (Ukraine and Russia war)
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Re: Vladmir Putin prophesied? (Ukraine and Russia war)
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Edit: I create this update since a friend of mine pointed this out to me. In Ezekiel, I mentioned a dispensationalist futurist view point, which assumed that the prophecy of Gog and Magog had not been fulfilled. However, from a preterist view point, which has strong arguments from what I've seen (see video series below), Gog and Magog is ancient history and has already been fulfilled.
Below is the email response I wrote that convinced me to make this article
Email #56 March 30 2023
Luke 21:20-22 mentions “fulfillment”. That desolation being near, surrounded by armies, from a Preterism view, would have already happened. Ah I see… Past history confused for future prophecy.Ohhh, and on 32 it says “generation”. Human life spans are typically last as much as 120 Genesis 6:3. Mark 13:30 and Matthew 24:34 mention this same “generation” too! So, it appears those events were fulfilled within those 120 years in the past, like Gog and Magog, which has already been fulfilled.
Very interesting video series! So the last days, which has already happened, is the 70th week of Daniel:9! A lot of “sevens” in that chapter. Interesting how the temple was destroyed in AD 70 by Titus, another seven. Ahh… now I can see the issue with using trying to get history that has already happened and say it has not. A lot of dispensationalism is popular, so it can be tricky to get out of the mindset. My earliest views of eschatology was with dispensationalism, just like how my earliest views of salvation was ECT. How unfortunate that the truth, like UR, is not well known to this generation.
5:46 of this video talks about that generation in a way I find interesting.
Very strong evidence from this video series. Now… I am in a tricky situation, due to my past postings of Gog and Magog. Well… due to the discovery of this information, the least I can do is this my friend :)
Summary for all 66 Bible Books
Vladmir Putin prophesied? (Ukraine and Russia war)
Summary for all 66 Bible Books
I have gone to my dispensationalist futurist assumption posts about Gog and Magog and added a disclaimer to them, and posted a link to this preterist video series. I value this information you have given to me greatly. Those are what I can find at the moment. While those posts are already posted, the least I can do is to provide that follow-up in light of this new “revelation” that you have shown me, so to speak. <3
I have made mistakes in the past, I used to believe in ECT and Annihilationism. And… I don’t know exactly how many of my beliefs are true or false. And to be honest, it can be scary thinking about how many of my beliefs may be wrong. Though, I know sola fida, eternal security, UR is true, that’s for sure! However, I believe in scripture, which is truth and scriptural evidence, like what you’ve shown me in favour of preterism. And I think, over time through reading and rereading the Bible, we learn more and more of God’s truth.
Thank you very much for providing me with these findings, brother. I am grateful to have met you.
Thanks for sharing my friend. It's over ten years later, and today, I also had a preterist exchange with a friend, for a while over email that I met on a Zoom call. In terms of eschatology, out of all the views, right now at this moment I see strong arguments that show preterism is true.
It's tricky because, I have made futurist dispensationalist assumption posts in the past. I've gone ahead and added disclaimers to them on Tentmaker, it's the least I can do. But I am convinced by scripture above all, and I try to let go of any bias I may have.
In terms of pride, I also suffer with that a bit. But then I remember that I falsely believed in Eternal Concious Torment and Annihlationism too. Albeit, I discovered Preterism after UR, but the concept is the same. Bible proofs lead to truth!
