False Prophecy since Jesus' Time

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Raccoon1010

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I thought I would address the false prophecy area as there have been many recorded over the time since Jesus' life at least. There is an interesting wikipedia article that list some probably small amount but notable predictions. I'm not sure which didn't come true or which did and how to tell the difference. But it is suspicious in some of the predictions that never were seen to be fulfilled:

List of dates predicted for apocalyptic events - Wikipedia
 

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I thought I would address the false prophecy area as there have been many recorded over the time since Jesus' life at least. There is an interesting wikipedia article that list some probably small amount but notable predictions. I'm not sure which didn't come true or which did and how to tell the difference. But it is suspicious in some of the predictions that never were seen to be fulfilled:

List of dates predicted for apocalyptic events - Wikipedia
There are several errors in that listing.

For instance:

"Luther, a German priest and professor of theology known for starting the Protestant Reformation, predicted the end of the world would occur no later than 1600."​

Luther actually wrote:
MARTIN LUTHER (1483 – 1546) - “… I hope the last Day of Judgment is not far, I persuade myself verily it will not be absent full three hundred years longer; for God's Word will decrease and be darkened for want of true shepherds and servants of God. The voice will sound and be heard ere long: Behold, the Bridegroom Cometh ...” - [The familiar discourses of Dr. Martin Luther (the great reformer) (1818); pages “7-8”, last two lines, continued in top three lines] -​
Luther actually had an inkling of the 2,300 day/years prophecy of Daniel 8:13-14,26, &c, which would end about 300 years from his time (1844). It was when the Midnight Cry first went forward in the Millerite/Advent movements in the Great Awakening.​
Another, such as Arnaldus de Villa Nova, in predicting Antichrist, is not necessessarily predicting the end of the world, but the arise of antichrist, etc. Many historical persons understood the antichrist to exist for a long time before the end of the world - The Anti Christ Identified By Christians In History : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

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Arnaldus was actually utilizing the 1,290 (Dan. 12:11) prophecy in the ending of what he thought was the "Gentile Times" (AD 74–1364).

He also spoke of the 2,300 day/years prophecy exteneding beyond that timeframe:

Roman Catholic (Layman, Scientist): Arnold of Villanova (AD 1235 – AD 1313), on Daniel 8:14:

Daniel 8:14:

"... When he says 'two thousand three hundred days' it must be said that by days he understands years. This is clear through the explanation of the angel when he says that in the end the vision will be fulfilled, from which he gives it to be understood by clear expression that in that vision by days are understood years. ..." - Translated from Arnold of Villanova, Introductio in Librum [Joachim] De Semine, fol. 7 v, col. 2, line 34 to fol. 8 r, col. 1, line 2.​
"... It is not unaccustomed, in the Scripture of God, for days to under-stand years. Nay, it is certainly usual and frequent. Whence also the Spirit in Ezekiel testifies: 'A day for a year I have reckoned to you. ..." - Translated from Arnold of Villanova, Introductio in Librum [Joachim] De Semine,, fol. 8 r, col. 1, lines 14-20.​
As translated/quoted in Leroy Edwin Froom, The Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers, Volume 1; Page 750​
" ... 'Up to the evening and the morning, two thousand three hundred days.' By a day, however, he understands a year. ..." - Tractatus de Tempore Adventus Antichristi (Treatise on the Time of the Coming of Antichrist), fol. 59 v, col. 2 to fol. 60 r, col. 2.​
As translated/quoted in LeRoy Edwin Froom, The Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers, Volume 1, Page 752​
" ... 'From the time when the continual sacrifice will have been taken away, and there will have been set up'—that is, up to the time when will be set up—`the abomination upon the desolation' namely, of the faithful people, 'a thousand two hundred and ninety days.' And here, just as above, by a day a year is understood, which is clear through what precedes, since it says 'And when the dispersion of the power of the holy people, all these things will be completed.' ..." - Tractatus de Tempore Adventus Antichristi (Treatise on the Time of the Coming of Antichrist), fol. 61 r, col. 2, line 28 to fol. 61 v, col. 1, lin.​
As translated/quoted in LeRoy Edwin Froom, The Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers, Volume 1, Page 753​
" ... it is certain, as was clear above, that Daniel under the name of days gives us to understand years and not usual days ...”​
“... such an understanding agrees with the common concepts of men and the truth of Sacred Scripture commonly known. ..." - Tractatus de Tempore Adventus Antichristi (Treatise on the Time of the Coming of Antichrist), fol. 63 r, col. 1, lines 21-32.​
As translated/quoted in LeRoy Edwin Froom, The Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers, Volume 1, Page 754-755 - http://docs.adventistarchives.org/docs/PFOF/PFOF1950-V01.pdf#view=fit
 

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I thought I would address the false prophecy area as there have been many recorded over the time since Jesus' life at least. There is an interesting wikipedia article that list some probably small amount but notable predictions. I'm not sure which didn't come true or which did and how to tell the difference. But it is suspicious in some of the predictions that never were seen to be fulfilled:

List of dates predicted for apocalyptic events - Wikipedia
John Wesley actually wrote (Commentary on Rev. 12:14):
"1 The non - chronos contains less than 1111 2 The little time 888 3 The time, times, and half a time 777 4 The time of the beast 666 1 The non - chronos extends from about 800 to 1836 2 The 1260 days of the woman from 847 - 1524 3 The little time 947 - 1836 4 The time, time, and half 1058 - 1836 5 The time of the beast between the beginning and end of the three times and a half"​

He did not in that context say, "when Christ should come".

There also needs to be a distinction made between those who merely predict the rise of Antichrist, and those who predict the end of the world. There needs to be a more distinct classification of those who teach the 7000 year general history of mankind, and actually predict the world's end specifically -





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There also needs to be a more distinct separation from those who predict the end of the world by their own machination apart from scripture and those who come to a conclusion based upon scripture, in other words occult separated from scriptural.

There should also be a distinction made for those claiming a 'rapture', versus the end of the world, as in most of the 'rapture' scenarios, that is not the end of the world (but close to it), or even the second coming of Jesus Christ in their non-scriptural scenario.
 

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What the crying need is for today; is awareness of the impending Day which Jesus said will be as in the days of Noah.
That terrible Day, when the Lord sends His fiery wrath, Prophesied over 100 times, is sadly overlooked and is set to shock the world. But we Christians should not be in the dark.

Shock and Awe: the Lord’s Day of Wrath:
How bad will the Lord’s response to the attack of Psalm 83 be?

When the sun explodes out a massive CME…. Isaiah 30:26, Psalms 50:1-3

When the Arm of the Lord descends in anger…..Isaiah 30:30, Zephaniah 3:8

When He flashes lightning and fiery coals onto the earth. Deut. 32:22, Psalm 18:13-14

When the Day comes, burning like a furnace. Malachi 4:1, 2 Peter 3:7

Most people have no conception of the worldwide devastation that will be caused by the hit upon the earth by the Lord’s fiery Day of vengeance and wrath. Isaiah 29:6 What is prophesied will be so shocking, so terrifying, that it is impossible for us to really comprehend and only when it happens, will we realise the full extent of the damage done to the world and our modern infrastructure.

There has never been a comparable natural disaster in recorded history. The nearest to it may be the continuous winters of 1883-87, caused by the ash clouds from Krakatoa, or some recent tsunamis. Only Noah’s flood really compares, but fortunately this time we have God’s promise to never again destroy man and animals so extensively. Genesis 9:16 Many people will die, Jeremiah 25:33, Isaiah 34:3, but most will survive.

As the survivors come out from under whatever shelter they have found, Isaiah 2:20-21, Revelation 6:15, there will be little, if any light for weeks or months. Amos 5:20, Zephaniah 1:15 Most buildings will be destroyed by earthquake and fire, Isaiah 24:18, Zephaniah 3:8 and huge tsunamis will wipe out all coastal cities and towns. Jeremiah 51:42, Amos 9:6

Normal mains electricity supply will not be restored for years. Only small generators will be able to supply power and these will soon run out of fuel, as will all motor transport. Line telephone systems and radio communication may be set up fairly quickly, but mobile phones and internet may never be re-established.

The world will slowly recover and in order to regain control and normal services, a 10 region One World Government will be organised. Daniel 7:23-24 However, those who have maintained their faith and trust in the Creator God during this time of testing have the promises of His redemption and their gathering into all of the Holy Land. Deuteronomy 30:3, Isaiah 35, Psalms 107, Zechariah 10:8, Hosea 11:10-11, Ezekiel 11:17, Ezekiel 36:8, Isaiah 49:8-23, Jeremiah 23:3-4, Psalms 69:35-36, Colossians 1:11-12, Revelation 7:9-14
 

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Yea, it's so tempting to want to figure your own time frame into divine prophecy. That's probably why Jesus warned us that the "times and seasons" belong to the Father, and that nobody knows precisely on what day he will Return.

So many want to think themselves a "prophet." They want to know the secret to representing God so that they can stand out above the rest as someone who is "in the know."
 

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I believe that from the Old Testament we can go from the creation to Adam to when the final judgement will begin and that timespan I would suggest is around 7,168 solar years.

Does this timespan stack up? I believe that it does.

The problems that I am faced with is the contextual accuracy of our translations into our common idioms and the biases of the translators and their inability to wrap their heads around the long prophecy timeframes.

Take for example the possession of the Genesis 15:17-21 "Promised Lands" which were promised so that when Israel had possession of the listed land areas that they would know that in the distant future they would have possession of the whole earth which was given in response to Abraham's question, "Lord God, how shall I know that I will possess it?"

The possession of the prescribed land in Genesis 15:17-21 began when Israel began entering the "promised land" and was lost by Israel after the death of Solomon and the nation was divided and the northern kingdom was overpowered by the Assyrians Empire.

Another example to consider is the Exodus 20:4-6 prophecy that because of the iniquities of the fathers of the first two ages of their existence would be visited upon their children and the children's children during the third and fourth ages of Israel's existence, which, by my calculations still has another twenty years to come to its completion.

The biggest issue that faces the "prophetic teachers" of today is that their understanding is flawed when considering what the scripture tell us will happen.

How will this play out in the future? Badly for many Christians as they come to realise that they have to humble themselves and repent of their turning away from God because of their fears of experiencing the tribulations and their other expectations which are not supported in the scriptures.

Time will tell us as the end time events begin to unfold.

Shalom
 
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When the sun explodes out a massive CME…. Isaiah 30:26, Psalms 50:1-3
Those are not referring to a Sol CME event. The fire is the light of God's glory, as Jesus comes in the Father's glory, His own glory and the glory of all the Holy angels.

Mat_25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:​

Jesus is coming as the sunrising (lightning, aka enlightening)

Mat_24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.​
 
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Those are not referring to a Sol CME event. The fire is the light of God's glory, as Jesus comes in the Father's glory, His own glory and the glory of all the Holy angels.

Mat_25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:​

Jesus is coming as the sunrising (lightning, aka enlightening)

Mat_24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.​
Why spiritualize prophecy, when what we are told will happen - can literally happen?

The adage is: If the plain Words of scripture can be literally understood, then to make it mean something else, is error.