I could say the same about the U.S. Cnnstitiution. All writings speak for themselves. That doesn't make them free from ambiguity or misnterpretation.
Exploring Trinitarian Logic
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Ritajanice
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Ask God for spiritual understanding / guidance. You imo rely to much on your own intellect...you lead yourself imo through scripture.imo.
Only God is smart.,bear that in mind..you are not.
You lack Gods Spirit intellect..just being honest.
St. SteVen
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On one hand she claims, "I stand on God’s word..."
But when presented with the scripture she says I can interpret it to mean anything I want. (sigh)
Further explanation on my part is met with questions about my "desperation".
As if I am floundering intellectually, unable to accept her superior view.
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EVERYBODY lacks God's Spirit intellect.
St. SteVen
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Did you really write that?
- "you lead yourself imo through scripture"
- "You lack Gods Spirit intellect.."
That's terrible advice.
The Spirit should NEVER lead contrary to scripture. (voodoo spirituality)
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Ritajanice
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You have completely misunderstood what I said.
You are lacking in spiritual thinking and understanding.,.how can you stay in your own intellect when it comes to Spirit words?
You are Born Of The Spirit aren’t you?
So why are you still in that old man of thinking?
Asked for more understanding in the Spirit..I pray that you receive it.
She has a frame of reference that is comfortable, so she has no desire to look beyond it.
When folks still believed the Earth was flat, no doubt some of them took their spyglasses and stood on the shore watching ships sail toward the horizon. Through their spyglasses they would have noticed that as a ship sailed farther away, there came a time when they could still see its sails but not its stern, which disappeared first over the horizon. They did not infer a curved Earth from this perception because of a preconceived false notion: they all experienced gravity as the force that (on their necessarily small local frame of reference) appeared to impel objects “straight down” rather than “toward the center of an orb.” Their notion of the direction “down” was not relative to one’s position on the Earth; it was an absolute. They were accordingly certain that the sailors who were sailing out of sight would point to “down” exactly parallel to the direction they themselves would point while standing on the shore.
They drew the wrong inference because they were comfortable in their necessarily small and local frame of reference. So it is with @Ritajanice.
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Ritajanice
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No it’s not.
Tell me how you know that God exists..by whose witness..easy answer?
Do you actually understand what Born Of The Spirit means.?..explain it.,in your own words?
St. SteVen
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And it does.
It's pretty clear that "us" and "our" doesn't mean "me" or "mine".
Genesis 1:26 NIV
Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness,
so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky,
over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over
all the creatures that move along the ground.”
Genesis 3:22 NIV
And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil.
He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”
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Ritajanice
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And wow!!!.to you thinking that everyone can choose to be Born Again.,double wow!!@Ritajanice…WOW
Ritajanice
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Taken
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It was Scriptural..no joke.
It was of her opinion, Flippant, of no consideration for her to consider, read, investigate, to discover Gods Truth.
Glory to God,
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St. SteVen
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The indwelling Spirit.
The same Spirit that gives me understanding of the scriptures.
Not sure why the Spirit doesn't do that for you.
Certainly.
Before we have a renewed relationship with God we are dead spiritually.
When we yield to God to renew our relationship, we are born of the Spirit. (born again)
The Spirit of the living God (the Holy Spirit) then indwells us. (as a guarantee)
Is all this a smoke screen for your ignorance?
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Ritajanice
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Same as it was unbiblical to say that all can be Born Again..false teaching..you cannot choose to be reborn in one’s spirit.,that is where you lack spiritual truth which is then backed up by the word.
Ritajanice
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By whose witness, I ask again?
Thank you, that’s your own testimony..which I won’t question.
We must be Born Of The Spirit, that is a Living spiritual rebirth.
I ask again how do you know that Gods exists..by whose testimony?
seems you the spiritually ignorant one here.
That’s why I speak of your own intellect , it’s not in line with the Spirit thinking....
Taken
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Uh huh … Not a Newsflash…
That is HOW A RelationSHIP between TWO IS established!
Each Freely CHOOSES the Other!!
I guess you think Because God Chose YOU….
YOU had NO need To Choose Him…
Point being….That has been obvious throughout your own posts.
St. SteVen
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Jesus doesn't appear until the NT. When the Word (logos) became flesh.
The Logos is the pre-existent "Jesus". (God the Son)
John 1:1-2, 14 NIV
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.
2 He was with God in the beginning. ...
14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us.
We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son,
who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
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