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Do you believe in Evolution or Creation?


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Jack

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Ok.

Unless you say something that contributes to the discussion I'm done replying.

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I have Scripture. Evolution is a Satanic LIE!

Exodus 20
11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them,
 

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I have Scripture. Evolution is a Satanic LIE!

Exodus 20
11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them,

If you believe everything in the bible was meant to be interpreted literally.

That says more about you, than it does anything written in it.
 

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If you believe everything in the bible was meant to be interpreted literally.

That says more about you, than it does anything written in it.
Interpreted literally? So you don't believe literally the NT verses of salvation? I do.
 

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Interpreted literally? So you don't believe literally the NT verses of salvation? I do.

6 days.

"But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day."

-2 Peter 3:8
 

Jack

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6 days.

"But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day."

-2 Peter 3:8
Of course time means nothing to God. Jesus has been around from "everlasting". That's Micah 5 FYI. One second to God is as a trillion years. Doesn't mean Genesis is wrong. There's ZERO evolution in the Bible.

Exodus 20
11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them,

Amen Jesus!
 

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Of course time means nothing to God. Jesus has been around from "everlasting". That's Micah 5 FYI. One second to God is as a trillion years. Doesn't mean Genesis is wrong. There's ZERO evolution in the Bible.

Exodus 20
11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them,

Amen Jesus!

If you look at the order in which God creates life in genesis.

It mirrors the fossil record observed in archaeology and evolution.

Although there are a few nitpicky gripes people have, the genesis account of creation has to be utterly terrifying to scientists who read it.

If only because it is infinitely more accurate than it should be.
 

Jack

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If you look at the order in which God creates life in genesis.

It mirrors the fossil record observed in archaeology and evolution.

Although there are a few nitpicky gripes people have, the genesis account of creation has to be utterly terrifying to scientists who read it.

If only because it is infinitely more accurate than it should be.
I'll stick to the literal Christian Bible. You have ZERO Scripture to support evolution. Don't you believe God could create everything in 6 days? The importance is that those who deny the literal BIBLICAL 6 day creation also deny MUCH of the Christian Bible.
 

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literal Christian Bible.

Sorry to say: no such thing.

The bible explicitly says man does not live by bread alone but by every word which proceeds out of the mouth of God.

It also says to meditate upon scripture, to gain comprehension. Indicating the bible was not meant to be interpreted literally.
 

Jack

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Sorry to say: no such thing.

The bible explicitly says man does not live by bread alone but by every word which proceeds out of the mouth of God.

It also says to meditate upon scripture, to gain comprehension. Indicating the bible was not meant to be interpreted literally.
So none of the Bible is "literal" to you? No eternal life? No eternal Hell fire? No BEAUTIFUL New Jerusalem? What is your religion???
 

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If a man and woman have children together.

Is it accurate to say their children inherit their DNA and genes.

And that over time, differences in DNA and genes can lead to people of different ethnicities having very different skin tones, eye color and physical characteristics.

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I think we have to admit some aspects of evolution are accurate.

Although evolutionary claims like "survival of the fittest" could be considered philosophy rather than science.

The idea that evolution disproves God is also philosophy rather than science.
The genes for all those things can be in the genome, just not expressed. The other thing that can happen is God made changes to people's DNA when He judged them. People also suddenly spoke new languages at the tower of Babel when God divided the nations, the next generations born could have had different appearances.
 

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So none of the Bible is "literal" to you? No eternal life? No eternal Hell fire? No BEAUTIFUL New Jerusalem? What is your religion???

The bible explicitly states it was never meant to be interpreted literally in its entirety.

Its filled with many symbolic contexts such as Joseph interpreting the pharaohs dreams, and metaphors in revelation to make this point through repetition.

Those are the basics, which every christian should know and acknowledge.
 

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The genes for all those things can be in the genome, just not expressed. The other thing that can happen is God made changes to people's DNA when He judged them. People also suddenly spoke new languages at the tower of Babel when God divided the nations, the next generations born could have had different appearances.

A person's environment, the choices they make and the things they're exposed to can also trigger changes in DNA.

Over a long period of time, even DNA contained in the food people eat, will have an affect on their genes.

How do things like dog breeds exist, if not for some aspects of evolution being accurate, I wonder?
 

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A person's environment, the choices they make and the things they're exposed to can also trigger changes in DNA.

Over a long period of time, even DNA contained in the food people eat, will have an affect on their genes.

How do things like dog breeds exist, if not for some aspects of evolution being accurate, I wonder?
Evolution though is major changes like from bacteria to people, and requires major DNA rewrites and adding in more genes. DNA changes today are largely harmful mutations, like caused by radiations, chemicals. They generally cause cells to die and diseases, including fertility issues.

If you had 2 prototype dogs, within those dogs' genomes exist all the phenotypes brought about by recombinations through selective trait breeding, along with occasional gene mutations, but you won't get a cat or a bird from a dog or a lizard, yet evolutionists say that is what happened.

A lot of dog types have been bred into situations where they cannot survive in the wild. They only live because people take care of them.
 
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Evolution though is major changes like from bacteria to people, and requires major DNA rewrites

I would say the changes aren't larger than what we've seen.

They only occur over a longer span of time.

The human brain is only 40,000 years old according to science:


If our species survives long enough, we will eventually see those big changes firsthand.
 

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The bible explicitly states it was never meant to be interpreted literally in its entirety.

Its filled with many symbolic contexts such as Joseph interpreting the pharaohs dreams, and metaphors in revelation to make this point through repetition.

Those are the basics, which every christian should know and acknowledge.
You're not very good at evading questions. Let's try again.

"So none of the Bible is "literal" to you? No eternal life? No eternal Hell fire? No BEAUTIFUL New Jerusalem? What is your religion???"
 
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Jack

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The bible explicitly states it was never meant to be interpreted literally in its entirety.

Its filled with many symbolic contexts such as Joseph interpreting the pharaohs dreams, and metaphors in revelation to make this point through repetition.

Those are the basics, which every christian should know and acknowledge.
I'm so sorry that John 3:16 isn't literal to you! Or maybe you just pick out the parts you like?
 

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I'm so sorry that John 3:16 isn't literal to you! Or maybe you just pick out the parts you like?

Come on now. You're being disingenuous with her. You literally bolded what she said and say something disingenuous.

She said in its entirety. She is correct in that. Not all of the Bible is to be taken literally and is symbolic in parts. The example she gave is a good one and is symbolic, not to be taken literally that seven ugly cows ate the seven plump cows and still were ugly or that seven blighted ears of grain eat the seven plump ears of grain. Revelation is full of symbolism.
 
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Jack

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Come on now. You're being disingenuous with her. You literally bolded what she said and say something disingenuous.

She said in its entirety. She is correct in that. Not all of the Bible is to be taken literally and is symbolic in parts. The example she gave is a good one and is symbolic, not to be taken literally that seven ugly cows ate the seven plump cows and still were ugly or that seven blighted ears of grain eat the seven plump ears of grain. Revelation is full of symbolism.
Are you also in the pick and choose club? "Symbolism"? That's JW tactics!
 
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Why couldn't God have invented evolution?
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Because the inventor of evolution could only be the author of sin--which rules God out.

It really doesn't take much thought to work this out.

Evolution expands the secondary (after Lucifer), earthly, pointed decision to rebel against Heaven's government into an indiscriminately long process of unconscious time, intents, and purposes.

I don't see a viable model of theistic evolution that presents human sin as a conscious decision.

It is a distorted view of the basic character of God, which is the constant cause of every error and sin.

Where does the development of willful sin play out in the framework of the theory of evolution?

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