Does God love burning people in hell?
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Behold
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Recycle this ., and then go and find all the others...
Luke 16:19-31
Jesus speaking
19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23 And in HELL he lift up his eyes, being in TORMENTS, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
Notice this....carefully
26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.= no getting out.
27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
A parable.
Thanks @Behold. Its just one small section out of 89 chapters total, of the Gospel(s).
This is old news and idk why you want to bring it up to someone who already accepts it for what it is.
A vision of what hell is like.
But if you look in revelation its done away with.
But not yet! Some say.
That is fine.
Thanks @Behold. Its just one small section out of 89 chapters total, of the Gospel(s).
This is old news and idk why you want to bring it up to someone who already accepts it for what it is.
A vision of what hell is like.
But if you look in revelation its done away with.
But not yet! Some say.
That is fine.
Behold
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There is a cult, more then one, that denies that Satan is Alive, so that they can deny Hell exists.
Interesting that they lied about both.
Behold
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Every person who heard the Gospel.....and responded....was hearing Christ calling them to come to His Cross and be forgiven.
"faith comes by HEARING".......... both the Gospel and the conviction power of the Holy Spirit.
"Christ IS THAT Spirit".
Behold
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Satan is alive, and Hell was created for Him, and His angels and His Sons.
Hell will be "cast into the Lake of Fire".....so, as that has not happened yet, you can believe that Every person who died and went to Hell today, understands its real and still available.
If it comes by hearing
What do you hear here?
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.”
Hell is cast into the lake of fire after giving up the dead inside.
The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done.
What do you hear here?
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.”
Hell is cast into the lake of fire after giving up the dead inside.
The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done.
I got you, you believe you live an intertesimonial time waiting for Jesus to come get you, hey i respect you @Behold
But just cause i believe it is over and jesus had the victory i could be wrong but i dont doubt him.
So you can continue to do what you want cause i dont really care @Behold.
And i love you, seeya.
But just cause i believe it is over and jesus had the victory i could be wrong but i dont doubt him.
So you can continue to do what you want cause i dont really care @Behold.
And i love you, seeya.
No it's not. It clearly says a CERTAIN begger and a CERTAIN rich man. It also refers to Moses and Abraham. It is clearly literal. Why would Jesus make up a lie?
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And Hell will be filled with people who don't believe in Hell. Satan LOVES it when his messengers convince people that there is no eternal Hell. He wants our company, "forever and ever".
Matthew 25
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
Revelation 20
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
Behold
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Jack,
Absolutely true.
You would think that even a deceived person could eventually realize...that Satan would want people to believe that Hell does not exist, exactly as He want's them to believe the He's not real.
They can't see it, once He's deceived them, because Deception becomes their truth.
Everything boils on how one believes, the only thing that pleases God, will always be faith friends.
Everyone actucally has different measures of faith.
Who is where? I can not say other than there are some who have faith, but not so close to God, and there are those who are close to God.
Everyone actucally has different measures of faith.
Who is where? I can not say other than there are some who have faith, but not so close to God, and there are those who are close to God.
No argument, really, but I would disagree with your assertion, "common among Christian faiths." But yes, beyond mere paganism, I would call it cultic.
See above; case in point.
Yeah, again, not so "commonplace,"
Hmmm, you seem to be taking the writer of Ecclesiastes out of context here, Brakelite. Which, while not commonplace, per se, is somewhat common even in Christian circles. Perhaps you agree, but the whole of Ecclesiastes, even Ecclesiastes 9, is about life "under the sun," There are dead people walking around us every which way we look, unfortunately. They may not remain so, but so it is.
Grace and peace to you.
Brakelite
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I would be willing to concede the point if it disagreed with the rest of scripture. But to believe all souls continue to exist beyond the grave in a conscious habitat and state of awareness with the ability to communicate, think, and act, is to believe the human soul/Spirit to be naturally and innately immortal.
I put it to you that there is no immortal sinner as God's guarding the way to the tree of life after the fall attests, saying, "lest he eat and live forever, he ain't having at it".
For the repentant sinner, yes, there comes to him eternal life, but this gift isn't granted him until the resurrection. Until then, like Jesus said of Lazarus, he's asleep. Unconscious. Obvious to anything going on around him. Luke 16 is not a theological treatise on the state of the dead. It is all figurative and a parable, as were all the other stories previous to that in Luke.
Well that what jesus is showing in the so often passage shared lately “Rich man and Lazarus”, Jesus is speaking about hell. The rich man went staight to hell, the realm of the dead. He also in the parable passed away, and so did lazarus. He is speaking in a manner to convey how it is in the realm of the dead.
The rich man could speak to, the other people on the other side of the chasm, but never could cross.
Then you see the suffering of those who desired not to be with God wanting for those who faced this fate being on the outside of paradise. To be saved from it.
Jesus went to this place and i believe he went to paradise which was a nicer place then outside of it, but no one could cross at this point. Not until the Word of God came, to paradise with the theif on the cross, and went and traveled down to the spirits from even Noahs age.
The whole story and image is about the separation in the realm of the dead; before judgement when christ came, and after you move on from that parable there are other things to learn about, that concerns the realm of the dead too. In the Ot, and in the Revelation. Which is given to reveal a message.
So therefore to constitute no living soul, negates even the will of God for having the will; TOO not have anyone perish.
However people may believe how they may.
The rich man could speak to, the other people on the other side of the chasm, but never could cross.
Then you see the suffering of those who desired not to be with God wanting for those who faced this fate being on the outside of paradise. To be saved from it.
Jesus went to this place and i believe he went to paradise which was a nicer place then outside of it, but no one could cross at this point. Not until the Word of God came, to paradise with the theif on the cross, and went and traveled down to the spirits from even Noahs age.
The whole story and image is about the separation in the realm of the dead; before judgement when christ came, and after you move on from that parable there are other things to learn about, that concerns the realm of the dead too. In the Ot, and in the Revelation. Which is given to reveal a message.
So therefore to constitute no living soul, negates even the will of God for having the will; TOO not have anyone perish.
However people may believe how they may.
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