Well said indeed and a important thing to remember.
In my experience, the two most common idols are greed and pride. It's important to remember to be humble, keep God at the head at all times.
Do Joseph Smith and Ellen White fir Bibal criteria of a true Prophet?
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In my experience, the two most common idols are greed and pride. It's important to remember to be humble, keep God at the head at all times.
Mormons hold to there being 3 gods, while we hold to there being just One...
We hold that God was eternally God, Mormons that he evolved into being God, as all good and faithful mormons males have that opportunity also!
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And if we are selfish in our ways, does it matter whether we believe in One God, or a three in one God, or in three gods? Did Jesus teach us to first become aware of those three options, if any, are correct... or did he teach this?
"But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you." Matt 6:33
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Hi, Jane, what you've written here really doesn't give a complete picture of Mormon doctrine. You didn't mention anything about the LDS belief that God the Father was once a man of flesh and bones. And I have never read an explanation from you regarding LDS beliefs about the temple rituals, and you cannot give complete info about it without breaking an oath of silence. There are many other points of doctrine where Mormonism contradicts basic Bible doctrine....
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I literally just talked about the Father having body:
If you want to talk about temple rites, sure we can totally talk about that. Conversation starts with salvation is via faith:
Again:
Like Athanasian Christians, LDS Christians believe that the Spirit is a person of Spirit. The Son has a spirit, which inhabits a body of flesh, once mortal but now resurrected and glorified. Obviously having the body in no way diminishes the Son's glory or Godliness. The Bible is mute on to the specifics of the Father. Athanasian Christians generally believe that He's like the Spirit (just a spirit), LDS Christians that He's like the Son (a spirit in a gloried body).
"And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit." I Cor 15:45
Anyone being quickened or having the words they consume from the scriptures quickened in them are being taught indeed. Looking at the population of planet Earth or even at the numbers of those bearing the label of Christian, I suppose that only a few of those are being taught by Jesus, but even a few is more than none...
"To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:" Col 1:27
Leonard Ravenhill Quotes (Author of Why Revival Tarries)
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quotes from Leonard Ravenhill:
'A man who is intimate with God is not intimidated by man.',
'No man is greater than his prayer life. The pastor who is not praying is playing; the people who are not praying are straying.
We have many organizers, but few agonizers;
many players and payers, few pray-ers;
many singers, few clingers;
lots of pastors, few wrestlers;
many fears, few tears; much ...
Nobody else can give you a clean heart but God.
There's one thing we need above everything else; it's something we
don't talk about these days. We need a mighty avalanche of
conviction of sin.
We're living in an unprecedented day (when) evil is no longer evil.
We've changed the terminology-- iniquity is now infirmity;
wickedness is now weakness;
devilry is now deficiency.
David had one of the most blessed experiences in the world, and the
blessedness was that he was miserable about his sin.
Are we sorry for grieving the heart of God... for denying God the
right to own our personality... to own our mind... to own our
thoughts... to own our emotions? (If not) we're robbing God.
Jesus did not come into the world to make bad men good. He came into
the world to make dead men live!
Someone asked me, "Do you pray for the dead?" I said, "No, I preach
to them!" I think every pew in every church is death row. Think
about that! They're dead! They sing about God; they talk about God,
but they're dead! They have no living relationship (with God).
We've got people today that are very happy to celebrate Christmas or
Easter or even Pentecost Sunday as long as nothing happens.
There's cancer in the church tonight!
One said, "If I lead somebody to Christ on the street, which church
should I send him to?" Sending someone to church today is like
taking a newborn baby and putting it in a refrigerator. I want a
place that vibrates with God, vibrates with eternity.
I want to see the house of God where it's open 24 hours a day so
people can come. We don't close the hospitals after eight hours a
day or the police station. Why should the churches be locked up tonight?
If you know a church on fire for God, tell me and I'll go. A church
where (after) you've gone in, you don't come out the same, believing
that God is there (and) you've been in His holy presence!
God is taking His hands off of America. We've had so much light and
we've rejected it.
The early church was married to poverty, prisons and persecutions.
Today, the church is married to prosperity, personality, and popularity.
How can you have a dead service with a living Christ?
Fifty years ago, you never heard of a divorce in the Christian
church. You never (even) heard of marriage counseling in the
church... We're putting up with sin in the church.
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Not always. @Prayer Warrior seems to have done her homework with regards LDS literature.
Did you know that Ellen White is the most prolufic woman writer in history? That she wrote 30 books and thousands of letters, manuscripts, newspaper articles and journals?
For anyone reading this, I recommend Steps to Christ. It's available free to download in PDF format on innumerable sites. Read through it as many times as you like to find a fault and we'll talk about it.
No, she just read some anti junk that (like anti-SDA stuff) takes a couple of quotes completely out of context, spins facts through a funhouse mirror 6 times over, and then demonizes that fabrication.
I did indeed know that she was an extreme writer and have read some of her stuff (actual essays, not just quotes). I've also chatted with several SDA's about their beliefs as well. Obviously I don't agree with SDA theology, but I should still be respectful, factual, and have thoughtful conversations about things.
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