Biblical Mary

[Paul Christensen]

Your usual MO....LOL



God CAN NOT DO corrupt, evil, wickedness.



Utter nonsense to preach God can DO EVIL.



Nothing whatsoever teaches God fertilized with His Seed, a created creatures seed.



Luke 1:
[31] And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.

An angel telling Mary she "will be" conceived (pregnant) in her womb....is a far cry from making up false claims that...

....

With Gods Seed.

* A spirit fertalizing an earthly womans egg OCCURED and disgusted God to the point He destroyed the Earth with a Flood.

* You preaching God did what He detested, is you attempting to MAKE JESUS, (a created Earthling)....

* You worshiping (your preached) Human Jesus, makes you a worshiper of the created, over the Creator.

Rom 1:
[25] Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

You have been duped with false philosophies and doctrines of men, outside of the Word of God.

Poor Mary, Bless by God, and remembered for her faithfulness and service unto God, corruptly "MADE" (by men) into an idol of worship, and "after her death" subjected to years of False claims...

Astounding.

God fertilizing a woman's egg comes close to Mormon doctrine, where God had sex with Mary and produced two sons, Jesus and Lucifer.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Well as you refuse ot acknowledge sources that are valid, why should I post them? You will just pooh pooh them off.

You reject Hislop, but in casually reviewing his book just now, I found over 200 references to very reliable historical sources! Imagine that!

As soon as you answer the question I will answer yours. But please provide evidence as well.

Since you're afraid to answer @Mungo - I will ask you the SAME question.
Can tell me WHY is the bishop's miter designed the way it is - according to Hislop?

I want to PROVE to you that he invented is reason - with historical evidence.
However - if you are afraid to answer the question - just admit it.

While you're at it - give me some of those 200 "reliable" historical sources . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Your usual MO....LOL
God CAN NOT DO corrupt, evil, wickedness.
Utter nonsense to preach God can DO EVIL.
Nothing whatsoever teaches God fertilized with His Seed, a created creatures seed.

Luke 1:
[31] And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.

An angel telling Mary she "will be" conceived (pregnant) in her womb....is a far cry from making up false claims that...
....

With Gods Seed.

* A spirit fertalizing an earthly womans egg OCCURED and disgusted God to the point He destroyed the Earth with a Flood.

* You preaching God did what He detested, is you attempting to MAKE JESUS, (a created Earthling)....

* You worshiping (your preached) Human Jesus, makes you a worshiper of the created, over the Creator.

Rom 1:
[25] Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

You have been duped with false philosophies and doctrines of men, outside of the Word of God.

Poor Mary, Bless by God, and remembered for her faithfulness and service unto God, corruptly "MADE" (by men) into an idol of worship, and "after her death" subjected to years of False claims...

Astounding.

What's "astounding" is the fact that YOU - a Sola Scripturist are making these asinine claims.

Show me - from the BIBLE - where ti states that is would be "corrupt, evil wickedness" for God to become manifest in the flesh by impregnating Mary.

This should be interesting . . .

 

[Wrangler]

Thomas gave a statement of faith.

Which contradicts 1 Cor 8:6, right?

 

[Wrangler]

I copied all the ones it gave me.

Thomas responded to him, “My Lord and my God!”
CEB
Thomas responded to Jesus, “My Lord and my God!”
CJB
T’oma answered him, “My Lord and my God!”
CEV
Thomas replied, “You are my Lord and my God!”
DARBY
Thomas responded and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”
DRA
Thomas said to Jesus, “My Lord and my God!”
EHV
Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!”
EXB
Thomas ·said to [answered] him, “My Lord and my God!”
GNV
Then Thomas answered, and said unto him, Thou art my Lord, and my God.
GW
Thomas responded to Jesus, “My Lord and my God!”
GNT
Thomas responded to Him, “My Lord and my God!”
ICB
Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
ISV
“My Lord and my God!” cried Thomas.
JUB
“My Lord and my God!” Thomas said.
MSG
Thomas said, “My Master! My God!”
MEV
Thomas replied · to him, saying, · “My Lord, and · my God!”
NOG
Thomas responded to Yeshua, “My Lord and my God!”
NABRE
Thomas exclaimed, “My Lord and my God!”
NCV
Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
NET
Thomas replied to him, “My Lord and my God!”
NIRV
Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
NIV
Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
NIVUK
Thomas said to him, ‘My Lord and my God!’
NKJV
Thomas said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”
NLT
“My Lord and my God!” Thomas exclaimed.
NMB
Thomas answered and said to him, My Lord and my God!
NRSV
‘My Lord,’ replied Thomas, ‘and my God!’
OJB
In reply, T’oma said to Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach, Adoni and Elohai! [TEHILLIM 35:23]
TPT
Then the words spilled out of his heart—“You are my Lord, and you are my God!”
RGT
Thomas (filled with emotion): You are the one True God and Lord of my life.
WEB
Thomas said to him, `My Lord and my God!'
WYC

 

[Taken]

God fertilizing a woman's egg comes close to Mormon doctrine, where God had sex with Mary and produced two sons, Jesus and Lucifer.

Not familiar with Mormon doctrine, but if that be so, yikes.

 

[Taken]

What's "astounding" is the fact that YOU - a Sola Scripturist are making these asinine claims.

You have made it abundantly clear, a person who trusts the Scriptures is offensive to you, and try as you may, you can not reveal a Scripture to support your claims that...

Gods seed fertilized Mary's egg

Show me - from the BIBLE - where ti states that is would be "corrupt, evil wickedness" for God to become manifest in the flesh by impregnating Mary.

.

EX 34:
[6] ...the LORD...proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, abundant in goodness and truth...

Gen 6:
[2] That the sons of God saw the daughters of men ...took them wives...
[4] ...when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them...
[5] And GOD saw ...that the wickedness of man evil continually.
[6] ...it repented the LORD... it grieved him at his heart
[7] And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth....

Really? You believe God seeing the wickedness and evil (of sons of God and human women) reproducing children, and the grief in Gods Heart, was GOOD?
So good, that God destroyed the earth with a flood...?
So good, that God did A similar thing...?
* Similar; but WORSE;
a Spirit (which God IS) (according to you fertilized a (betrothed) Human Woman's seed, with His Seed, while never taking her to His Wife?

A 10 year old could comprehend the lunacy of such a notion.

We do know, prideful men who have spent their whole lives believing a lie tend to be too prideful to admit they were duped thus continue the charade and think making derragatiory accusations will hopefully deflect from their long term error.

 

[Webers_Home]

.
This thread is supposed to be about the Biblical Mary but quite a bit of the
material I've seen posted is about the Vatican's Mary; which is a Mary that
exists in Catholic tradition instead of the Bible.
_

 

[Jane_Doe22]

God fertilizing a woman's egg comes close to Mormon doctrine, where God had sex with Mary and produced two sons, Jesus and Lucifer.

Again:
That's NOT actual LDS Christian doctrine. Rather is believed that Mary was a virgin and Christ alone is the only Begotten Son of God.

 

[Mungo]

Which contradicts 1 Cor 8:6, right?

Wrong - see post #185

 

[Mungo]

Thomas responded to him, “My Lord and my God!”
CEB
Thomas responded to Jesus, “My Lord and my God!”
CJB
T’oma answered him, “My Lord and my God!”
CEV
Thomas replied, “You are my Lord and my God!”
DARBY
Thomas responded and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”
DRA
Thomas said to Jesus, “My Lord and my God!”
EHV
Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!”
EXB
Thomas ·said to [answered] him, “My Lord and my God!”
GNV
Then Thomas answered, and said unto him, Thou art my Lord, and my God.
GW
Thomas responded to Jesus, “My Lord and my God!”
GNT
Thomas responded to Him, “My Lord and my God!”
ICB
Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
ISV
“My Lord and my God!” cried Thomas.
JUB
“My Lord and my God!” Thomas said.
MSG
Thomas said, “My Master! My God!”
MEV
Thomas replied · to him, saying, · “My Lord, and · my God!”
NOG
Thomas responded to Yeshua, “My Lord and my God!”
NABRE
Thomas exclaimed, “My Lord and my God!”
NCV
Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
NET
Thomas replied to him, “My Lord and my God!”
NIRV
Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
NIV
Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
NIVUK
Thomas said to him, ‘My Lord and my God!’
NKJV
Thomas said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”
NLT
“My Lord and my God!” Thomas exclaimed.
NMB
Thomas answered and said to him, My Lord and my God!
NRSV
‘My Lord,’ replied Thomas, ‘and my God!’
OJB
In reply, T’oma said to Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach, Adoni and Elohai! [TEHILLIM 35:23]
TPT
Then the words spilled out of his heart—“You are my Lord, and you are my God!”
RGT
Thomas (filled with emotion): You are the one True God and Lord of my life.
WEB
Thomas said to him, `My Lord and my God!'
WYC

What is he point of this post?

 

[n2thelight]

Biblical Mary:

Mother of God Lk 1:43

Immaculate conception (sinless) gen 3:15 enmity or total war none of satans works are found in Mary
Also Lk 1:28 full of grace lk 1:49 great things plural (immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus) Rev12:1 woman clothed with the sun. Immaculate purity

Lk 1:30 found favor with God (the salvation lost by Adam) mother of our salvation Lk 2:30

Perpetual Virgin Isa 7:14 matt 1:21
Lk 1:31-34

So why may I ask did we need Christ , when we had Mary ?

 

[Mungo]

So why may I ask did we need Christ , when we had Mary ?

I'm curious as to why you consider that for Catholics Mary replaces Christ.

 

[n2thelight]

I'm curious as to why you consider that for Catholics Mary replaces Christ.

Because that seems to be what's happening , I mean if she was perfect sin free and all that ,could she not had died for us ?

 

[Taken]

I'm curious as to why you consider that for Catholics Mary replaces Christ.

Do Catholics pray in Mary's NAME ?

 

[Mungo]

Because that seems to be what's happening , I mean if she was perfect sin free and all that ,could she not had died for us ?

No, because she needed a saviour (Lk 1:47) but in her case she was saved at the instance of her conception.

 

[Mungo]

Do Catholics pray in Mary's NAME ?

I don't know what you mean by "pray in Mary's name"

 

[Taken]

.
This thread is supposed to be about the Biblical Mary but quite a bit of the
material I've seen posted is about the Vatican's Mary; which is a Mary that
exists in Catholic tradition instead of the Bible.
_

Seemingly ~ the OP begins with saying;
Biblical Mary, then the OP posts claims about Mary, that can not be verified with Scripture.
* If one Using Scripture, reveals the claim About Mary, is not Scriptural;
! There is a set of TACTICS to use! (as plainly repeatedly observed);
* Call the challenger derragatory Names, say they ARE WRONG, repeat the claim.
* Ignore;
* Deflect off Topic;
* Retort with Scripture that does not apply to the Point;
* Reference a Scripture, that has nothing to do with their claim.
* Accuse the challenger of Using Scripture ...
(As IF, it is NOT a suitable means for verifying claims)

It is already well known;
The Lord Jesus; being Gods Word of Truth;
Revealed Gods Truth to us, for our Benefit.
* Gods Word; that we have the Benefit of Written, Assembled, (in an easily referenced format / Book, Chapter, Verse indentifiers) Published, readily available, for the literate themselves to Read )
* We have in such written and published Scriptures, Gods Doctrine.
* Some men Trust & Rely ON Gods Doctrine.
* Some men Reject Gods Doctrine.
* Some men Convolute Gods Doctrine mixing it with their own Man-made Doctrine.
* Some men Rely solely on Man-made Doctrines.

* It is well known ~ Man-made Doctrines are devised via:
* philosophies ie Carnal Minded thoughts and conclusions of men.
* clerics (the teachers/preachers/priests) heavily influenced by philosophies set the precedence for (listeners, crowd, congregation); which in turn;
* establishes A TRADITION.
* The Listeners, Repeatedly, exposed to:
man-made philosophies; yield to the Traditions...
* The repeated; philosophies of men
IS: Indoctrination.
* The repeated; traditions of men
IS: Brain washing.
Men obedient to men:
IS: Goal Achieved.

* This is NOT a NEW concept, but rather, a proudly Boasted as a Long Standing concept.

* The WARNING AGAINST such concept also IS NOT NEW.

Col 2:
[8] Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

I don't know what you mean by "pray in Mary's name"

We Identify WHOM we are speaking TO, by "their NAME".

Do you "speak" Mary's NAME, identifying MARY, as to WHOM you are "speaking" TO?

 

[Mungo]

We Identify WHOM we are speaking TO, by "their NAME".

Do you "speak" Mary's NAME, identifying MARY, as to WHOM you are "speaking" TO?

Yes we speak to Mary asking for her intercession.

But if, as I suppose you are, comparing that to "pray in Jesus name" then you are using a different definition to others.
Praying in Jesus’ name means praying with His authority and asking God the Father to act upon our prayers because we come in the name of His Son, Jesus. Praying in Jesus’ name means the same thing as praying according to the will of God,
(gotquestions.ord)

The phrase “in Jesus’ name” is associated with the authority of Jesus imparted to a person where that person performs an action as if it were Jesus actually doing it.(carm.org)

That is very different to your personal definition.