Bible alone!

[theefaith]

There are many misunderstandings
Many things that are the same but not called the same

and my many seeming contradictions but not in reality same as in scripture for example the Christian faith includes the doctrine of the virgin birth from Isa 7:14 so explain Jn 1:45?
Seeming contradicton

 

[Pearl]

be specific please

I’ll answer any you want

but Christ’s church cannot be corrupt without Christ being corrupt

Jesus Christ extends his mission, power, and authority to His church of His apostles!

Even His judging!
Matt 19:28
His teaching authority!
Matt 28:19 and Jn 20:21
His power to forgive sins!
Jn 20:23
His being the light of the world!
Matt 5:14
His ministry of reconciliation!
2 cor 5:18
Apart from me you can do nothing. Jn 15:5
So the church is subject to Christ!
Eph 5:24

Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Matt 18:17 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20 acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15

Do you really think anybody ever looks up these long lists of bible references you quote so often?

 

[theefaith]

No, the Catholic organization passing itself off as a church is.

the church must be catholic!

 

[Truther]

ELOHIM is plural = two or more = Elohim correctly translated is Gods/plural, but since Elohim is ONE(Echad) the lauguage/sentence structure is in the Singular because Elohim Father Elohim Son and Elohim Holy Spirit are ONE.
Our finite minds are not able to perceive how this can be but we are told by the Word that this is exactly WHO THEY ARE.

Genesis = John ch1 = Father + Spirit + Word
In the beginning Elohim(God) created the heavens and the earth. 2The earth was without form, and void; and darkness [a]was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
3Then Elohim(God) said, “Let there be light”; and there was light. 4And Elohim(God) saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. 5God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day.

John ch1 = In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2He was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not [a]comprehend it.

Genesis 1:26 "Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; = more then one singular entity

So we see the Father and Son and Spirit having equal power, acting as ONE and are ONE CREATOR.

The Father, Son Holy Spirit are inseparable and are revealed to us from Genesis to Revelation = John 10:26-30
Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father’s name, they bear witness of Me. 26But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you. 27My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.
28And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand.
29My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand.
30I and My Father are one.”

Do you think the person of the Godhead, Jesus, co created everything with the other 2 persons?

Can you find a verse that says the 3rd person was involved as a co-creator?

 

[David in NJ]

Do you think the person of the Godhead, Jesus, co created everything with the other 2 persons?

Can you find a verse that says the 3rd person was involved as a co-creator?

A.) In the beginning Elohim(God) created the heavens and the earth. 2The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of Elohim(God) was hovering over the face of the waters.
3Then Elohim(God) said,............."Let US make man in OUR image according to OUR likeness" = 3x

B.)In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

C.) Matt 3:16 - 3 Persons of Elohim = As soon as Jesus was baptized, He went up out of the water. Suddenly the heavens were opened, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and resting on Him. And a voice from heaven said, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased!”

D.) The Father, Son Holy Spirit are inseparable and are revealed to us from Genesis to Revelation = John 10:26-30
Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father’s name, they bear witness of Me. 26But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you. 27My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.
28And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand.
29My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand.
30I and My Father are one.”

E.) The Son is Elohim with Elohim Father and Elohim Holy Spirit
And understand that I am He.
Before Me there was no God formed,
Nor shall there be after Me.
I, even I, am the Lord,
And besides Me there is no savior. - Isaiah 43

F.) Listen = “Listen to Me, O Jacob, And Israel, My called: I am He, I am the First, I am also the Last." - Isaiah 48:12-13

G.) God = Elohim
Rev 1:8 = Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.
“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End."

Rev 22:13 = And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”

 

[theefaith]

38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

39 And when they were come up out of the water,...

You see, we must go down into the water then come up out of the water...

No drip-drip on the noggin'.

That makes it acceptable not required!
It don’t say this is the only way!

divinity of Jesus
Only God can be all knowing and therefore the just judge!

Final judgement by Jesus Christ the eternal God!

 

[theefaith]

Again, where does scripture say, "God the son"?

Matt 24:31 his angels
Jn 1:51 his angels

 

[theefaith]

The book of Mormon, Doctrines and Covenants and the Pearl of Great Price(Mormon extra biblical literature) are creeds also.

No there not under apostolic authority
And scripture demands the teaching authority of the apostles

Jesus Christ extends his mission, power, and authority to His church of His apostles!

Even His judging!
Matt 19:28
His teaching authority!
Matt 28:19 and Jn 20:21
His power to forgive sins!
Jn 20:23
His being the light of the world!
Matt 5:14
His ministry of reconciliation!
2 cor 5:18
Apart from me you can do nothing. Jn 15:5
So the church is subject to Christ!
Eph 5:24

Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Matt 18:17 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20 acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15

 

[amigo de christo]

Do you really think anybody ever looks up these long lists of bible references you quote so often?

He takes them out of text to point to the CC . Its means nothing when one does that .
He only reads the bible through the lens of the CC . And that has blinded him to the truth my dear sister .
Thee faith has forgotten that satan too could quoate scrips , yet used the scrips to cause error and not the truth .
Satan knows how to twist the truth , so do his men . WE must stay planted in our bibles and read them for ourselves .
JESUS is with the lambs and our HOPE is IN HIM . Now let all that draws breath praise the glorious wonderous Lord .

 

[amigo de christo]

No there not under apostolic authority
And scripture demands the teaching authority of the apostles

Jesus Christ extends his mission, power, and authority to His church of His apostles!

Even His judging!
Matt 19:28
His teaching authority!
Matt 28:19 and Jn 20:21
His power to forgive sins!
Jn 20:23
His being the light of the world!
Matt 5:14
His ministry of reconciliation!
2 cor 5:18
Apart from me you can do nothing. Jn 15:5
So the church is subject to Christ!
Eph 5:24

Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Matt 18:17 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20 acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15

Sadly the CC has long strayed from their teachings and have led many astray by cliaming herself as the one true Church
and that in her she makes cliam continues the teachings of Christ and the apostels . YET they are not teaching
as did CHRIST , nor peter , nor james , nor paul .
The one true church does still exist and her children have come out from amongst those who would teach deception .
You must go and learn what this means for yourself . Pray unto GOD alone in JESUS name
and read that bible . Unlearn what men gone wrong have taught and see clearly you will .

 

[theefaith]

No offense, but I would encourage you to please read your Bible more, my friend. You will not find any of the RCC practices clearly spelled out in the New Testament. The Christ of the Catholic Church is another Jesus not found in the Holy Bible.

Jesus honored Mary so must we of we follow Jesus!

Praise of Mary and the saints redounds to the Glory of Who created them, Lk 1:49 to Christ who redeemed them, and to the Holy Spirit who sanctified them with graces obtained by the merits of Christ!
Source of Grace is Christ! Jn 1:16-17

 

[theefaith]

Do you really think anybody ever looks up these long lists of bible references you quote so often?

Moriah song always asks me to document

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Jesus honored Mary so must we of we follow Jesus!

Praise of Mary and the saints redounds to the Glory of Who created them, Lk 1:49 to Christ who redeemed them, and to the Holy Spirit who sanctified them with graces obtained by the merits of Christ!
Source of Grace is Christ! Jn 1:16-17

Jesus did not honor Mary in the same way Catholics do in the sense that He prayed to her, and or thought she was sinless.

 

[Pearl]

Moriah song always asks me to document

But you need to actually quote the scripture by copy and paste or at least give the full reference so when you click on it it links to the passage.

 

[theefaith]

He takes them out of text to point to the CC . Its means nothing when one does that .
He only reads the bible through the lens of the CC . And that has blinded him to the truth my dear sister .
Thee faith has forgotten that satan too could quoate scrips , yet used the scrips to cause error and not the truth .
Satan knows how to twist the truth , so do his men . WE must stay planted in our bibles and read them for ourselves .
JESUS is with the lambs and our HOPE is IN HIM . Now let all that draws breath praise the glorious wonderous Lord .

All scripture is inspired not context

 

[theefaith]

Sadly the CC has long strayed from their teachings and have led many astray by cliaming herself as the one true Church
and that in her she makes cliam continues the teachings of Christ and the apostels . YET they are not teaching
as did CHRIST , nor peter , nor james , nor paul .
The one true church does still exist and her children have come out from amongst those who would teach deception .
You must go and learn what this means for yourself . Pray unto GOD alone in JESUS name
and read that bible . Unlearn what men gone wrong have taught and see clearly you will .

Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

and He said:

matt 16:18-19 the gates of hell shall not prevail

 

[amigo de christo]

Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

and He said:

matt 16:18-19 the gates of hell shall not prevail

And that in no way points us to the CC . The JW , even mormon can quoate the same thing
and try and point to their church as the one true church .
I will tell them the very same thing i tell you . COME YE OUT from amongst them .
Read the bible through the lens of the Holy Ghost and not the lens of your religion .
It would really open your eyes my friend .

 

[theefaith]

Jesus did not honor Mary in the same way Catholics do in the sense that He prayed to her, and or thought she was sinless.

you don’t think she is sinless?
The church always believed it and always taught it!

gen 3:15 enmity total war none of Satan’s works are in her

all fair Song of Soloman 4:7

Sirach 24:24
I am the mother of fair love, and offear, and of knowledge, and of holy hope.

lk 1:28 full of grace
Blessed
The Lord is with thee

rev 12:1 clothed with the sun
Immaculate purity

 

[amigo de christo]

Sirach i would not read .
as for the rest , isnt it amazing how thee faith tries to make the verses say something they never once said .
As i said , HE sees scriptures , THROUGH the lens of the CC . Hurry thee faith , get in that bible
and pray TO GOD , IN JESUS name and start learning for yourself .

 

[theefaith]

But you need to actually quote the scripture by copy and paste or at least give the full reference so when you click on it it links to the passage.

yes mamm