Nope, extra Biblical commentary is only an opinion piece and should not be equated with scripture.
Bible alone!
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God first had to raise him from the dead, make him a quickening spirit that is omnipresent, then enter inside His omnipresent human spirit body to make these 2 S(s)pirit's, one.
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David in NJ
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20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept....
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
David in NJ
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Excellent - just remember that 'made' does not denote 'created.'
The Scripture does not lie and is in Harmony with Itself = Genesis to Revelation.
Made does not denote create?
Made in America means "became in America", now?
Are you leading this effort?
Became denotes preexistence of a product.(something complete became something else)
David in NJ
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Christ became sin for us on the Cross = Christ was made sin for us on the Cross = Christ bore our sins on the Cross.
The Word was in the beginning with God and the Word was God................
Nowhere in Scripture will you find that ElohimSon was created by ElohimFather and Elohim Holy Spirit........nowhere.
For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
He did not become sin, but was made sin.
Christ did not evolve from one sin to another form of sin.
David in NJ
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"Made" does not denote 'created' in this scripture. When referring to the SON the word "made" never denotes that HE was created.
Christ was never 'created' and anyone who believes this is mislead by the spirit of error = Genesis & Gospel of John
"We are from God. The one who knows God listens to us; the one who is not from God does not listen to us.
By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error."
Whenever someone seeks to relinquish the SON as a creation of God they are believing a lie that came from the mouth of satan which began in the Garden in Genesis.
“I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. 3You shall have no other gods before Me.
And understand that I am He.
Before Me there was no God formed,
Nor shall there be after Me.
11I, even I, am the Lord,
And besides Me there is no savior. - Isaiah 43
Since Christ was not sin, but was made sin, he was created as sin.
God saw him as sin itself, ending in God's wrath on him for us.
God even forsook him because he was made sin.
God forsook sin.
David in NJ
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Correct.
Elohim created His only begotten human son in Mary's womb via fertilization of her egg with a created sperm cell in her ovaries.
This is how we end up with both "the son of God" and "the son of man"(kind)....(Mary).
Jesus had a divine parent and an earthly parent.
David in NJ
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Elohim did not create Elohim.
What are you - jw, lds or.......? Because you do not follow the Word of Truth but have accepted/embraced error over the Word.
A.) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
B.) He was with God in the beginning.
C.) Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made.
The Word became flesh and made His dwelling among us. We have seen His glory, the glory of the one and only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
David in NJ
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John 1 says the Word was Elohim from the beginning = Genesis chapters 1-3
John ch1 says Elohim/Word made a decision to save man from sin and that decision meant HE came to earth in the body of a man that HE created for Himself = can you SEE that?
Elohim cannot be created nor destroyed.
Let's make this simply.
Did the Father create everything or did the son create everything?
Pick one....(obviously not 2 creators here).
David in NJ
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ELOHIM created everything = Genesis = "Let US make man in OUR image according to OUR likeness"
Genesis = ELOHIM Father ELOHIM Son ELOHIM Holy Spirit = ALL THREE are ECHAD
David in NJ
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ELOHIM is plural = two or more = Elohim correctly translated is Gods/plural, but since Elohim is ONE(Echad) the lauguage/sentence structure is in the Singular because Elohim Father Elohim Son and Elohim Holy Spirit are ONE.
Our finite minds are not able to perceive how this can be but we are told by the Word that this is exactly WHO THEY ARE.
Genesis = John ch1 = Father + Spirit + Word
In the beginning Elohim(God) created the heavens and the earth. 2The earth was without form, and void; and darkness [a]was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
3Then Elohim(God) said, “Let there be light”; and there was light. 4And Elohim(God) saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. 5God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day.
John ch1 = In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2He was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not [a]comprehend it.
Genesis 1:26 "Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; = more then one singular entity
So we see the Father and Son and Spirit having equal power, acting as ONE and are ONE CREATOR.
The Father, Son Holy Spirit are inseparable and are revealed to us from Genesis to Revelation = John 10:26-30
Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father’s name, they bear witness of Me. 26But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you. 27My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.
28And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand.
29My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand.
30I and My Father are one.”
be specific please
I’ll answer any you want
but Christ’s church cannot be corrupt without Christ being corrupt
Jesus Christ extends his mission, power, and authority to His church of His apostles!
Even His judging!
Matt 19:28
His teaching authority!
Matt 28:19 and Jn 20:21
His power to forgive sins!
Jn 20:23
His being the light of the world!
Matt 5:14
His ministry of reconciliation!
2 cor 5:18
Apart from me you can do nothing. Jn 15:5
So the church is subject to Christ!
Eph 5:24
Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Matt 18:17 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20 acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15
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