Bible alone!
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David in NJ
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Nope - but she did submit to God and by Faith in His Word yielded herself to the Holy Spirit.
So Mary made an agreement to carry the baby and did not agree to conceiving it?
David in NJ
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Mary did not conceive in the effect that she needed a man's seed to conceive.
Then Mary said to the angel, “How can this be, since I do not know a man?”
35And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God. 36Now indeed, Elizabeth your relative has also conceived a son in her old age; and this is now the sixth month for her who was called barren.
37For with God nothing will be impossible.”
Jim B
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So we should never apologize and ask for forgiveness and reconciliation regardless of the person's spiritual situation?
never said anything about the three kings
btw how do you know there were three? Not the Bible alone cos it don’t say!
That definition is talking about penances not penance!
they are also required by Christ
Luke 9:23
And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
Colossians 1:24
Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:
behind should be “lacking” anyway
what is lacking in the sufferings of Christ? Our participation!
grace enables us to be holy and righteous and to act in a holy a righteous way, to actually be holy and righteous
David in NJ
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You are covering/combining two different topics that share a common theme as if they are one single subject matter.
For God so loved the world = common/established theme
Not all are saved by the 'common/established theme'
What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, 24even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
25As He says also in Hosea:
“I will call them My people, who were not My people,
And her beloved, who was not beloved.”
26“And it shall come to pass in the place where it was said to them,
‘You are not My people,’
There they shall be called sons of the living God.”
Then there is the ALL INCLUSIVE THEME
“For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
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Conception of a woman involves her egg by definition.
Scripture says Mary conceived, not God conceived.
She did not self fertilize, but was fertilized.
She bore a real "son of man", not a faux one.
that why you have to believe me
since I wrote only can tell you the proper interpretation, then you will see the meaning and find understanding and unity
A fat sandwich man!
Is a man who makes fat sandwiches!
now concerning the scripture
The church of the apostles by the authority of Christ and the Holy Spirit wrote them, so only the church of the apostles can tell you the proper interpretation!
but this requires FAITH!
Faith in Christ who founded the church and endowed it with His authority and spirit!
The just shall live by faith!
and we must be taught lk 1:4 acts 8:31 Matt 28:19
David in NJ
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Scripture declares that she did not conceive from a man - nor did she ever know a man when the Holy Spirit overshadowed her.
WAKE UP to RIGHTEOUSNESS = Numbers 23:19
God is not a man, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?
But she conceived.
Correct?
Now, since it was Mary that conceived, was her egg needed to create the son of man that Jesus called himself?
Was Jesus the seed that Abraham was originally promised to have in the future?
David in NJ
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The Word became flesh is the 1st Promise of God, for us whom HE calls, and HE declared that Prophetic Promise first to satan.
so the true church of Christ denies the divinity of Christ?
Lk 1: 76 And thou, child, shalt be called the prophet of the Highest: for thou shalt go before the face of the Lord to prepare his ways;
prepared the way for Jesus so Jesus is the most high! Divine
lk 1:47 God my savior
Jesus is the savior Matt 1:21
did Christ have authority to make and send apostles? Yes!
the apostles have same authority power and mission as Christ do they also have authority to make and send apostles
What authority does Christ have?
What power does Christ have?
What mission / ministry does Christ have?
Peter, the apostles and their successors have the same authority, power, and mission! Jn 20:21 as my father sent me, even so send I you!
John 17:18
As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
The apostles are Christ’s successors!
They have authority to send others as well, apostle means one who is sent!
Therefore the apostles have authority to send more apostles or successors!
Apostolic succession!
The nations still need to be taught, disciples still need to be baptized and the church the new covenant kingdom of christ still needs to be governed!
Hebrews 3:1
Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;
Christ is an apostle, and has authority to send other apostles, the apostles also have this authority, so the apostles continue down thru the centuries as Christ promised! Matt 28:19-20
amigo de christo
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Whether or not her egg was required , I KNOW NOT .
But i do know that with GOD all things are possible .
So i freely admit i dont KNOW how this all occured , OH BUT PRAISE GOD that IT DID .
FOR IN JESUSCHRIST I have ETERNAL LIFE and MY SALVATION . Now put those hands up and let the LORD be praised .
amigo de christo
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Conception according to man also requires a sperm . AND YET that never happened .
MY POINT is NONE of us really knows HOW this occurred . OH BUT I PRAISE GOD THAT IT DID .
FOR IN JESUS CHRIST , WHO IS MY HOPE and MY SALVATION , I have ETERNAL LIFE and A GOOD END .
THE END i never deserved , For i was the worst of the worst , OH BUT PRAISE GOD FOR HIS GRACE GIVEN US IN CHRIST .
FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST . LET THE LORD BE PRAISED .
Saint Augustine’s prayer to the Holy Spirit:
Breathe in me O Holy Spirit, that my thoughts may all be holy.
Act in me O Holy Spirit, that my work, too, may be holy.
Draw my heart O Holy Spirit, that I love but what is holy.
Strengthen me O Holy Spirit, to defend all that is holy.
fid you see my thread about the HS in the praise forum?
that's three threads and nothing about Mary!
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