Bible alone!

[amigo de christo]

What saves us as fallen sinners> Any water baptism, any church membership, any works that we do? nay, God forbid, saved by the precious shed blood of Christ, by His death and resurrection alone!

REDEEMED by the BLOOD of CHRIST .
What must i do to be saved ........BELIEVE IN HE WHOM GOD DID SEND , that is JESUS CHRIST .
And let us be hearers and doers of all things HE did teach and say . Let all that draws breath praise the glorious LORD .
Let all who name the name of JESUS
get in those bibles and learn HIM well .
For many follow another jesus , another gospel .
Make sure the JESUS we follow IS JESUS and not
a version of another jesus . Now let all that draws breath praise
the glorious LORD .

 

[amigo de christo]

AGREE and the Holy Spirit delights in inspiring us today.

YEs it does . And it keeps us safe from the lies of men gone wrong . yes indeed .
Let all get a noseful of that bible and learn Christ well . And let all that draws breath praise and thank the glorious Lord .

 

[theefaith]

Stand firm . Never heed thee faith or any other that tries to draw you to the CC .
On the day of judgment the lambs will be forever Home with Christ .
Till that day and till our last , enter into NO covenant with the CC or any others who have strayed
from the truth .

Is there more than one new covenant?

 

[theefaith]

The Bible alone is about the Apostles doctrine.

The extra Biblical stuff is garbage.

explain the teaching of Jesus Christ in person to his church of the apostles is garbage?

it’s not all in scripture!
Scripture says so! Jn 21:25

the apostle John disagrees with you
2 John 1:12
Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, and speak face to face, that our joy may be full.
So the apostle John in person is garbage?

And scripture never says all of the truths of divine revelation are contained in scripture!

tell me from scripture alone what is the fifth commandment?
Or
What did Christ command his apostles in Matt 28:20?

extra biblical is garbage?

abraham was not called by the Bible but by God? So God or God’s word is garbage? Is that what you’re saying?

lk 3:2 the word of God came to John in the wilderness, what book, chapter and verse was it???

 

[theefaith]

Christ had no personal divinity.

The divinity he has or had was his God inside him.

He is God via Col 2:9 now.

then how can he be eternal?

 

[theefaith]

We keep trying to tell them that but they don't want to know.

2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

Refers to the revolt of Luther!

where is there a scripture that says this

(The true Church of Christ is NOT Rome, but it is the total of all of the redeemed in the Body of Christ!)

what is the basis unity of this church?

Christ is the redeemer all men!

 

[Truther]

explain the teaching of Jesus Christ in person to his church of the apostles is garbage?

it’s not all in scripture!
Scripture says so! Jn 21:25

the apostle John disagrees with you
2 John 1:12
Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, and speak face to face, that our joy may be full.
So the apostle John in person is garbage?

And scripture never says all of the truths of divine revelation are contained in scripture!

tell me from scripture alone what is the fifth commandment?
Or
What did Christ command his apostles in Matt 28:20?

extra biblical is garbage?

abraham was not called by the Bible but by God? So God or God’s word is garbage? Is that what you’re saying?

lk 3:2 the word of God came to John in the wilderness, what book, chapter and verse was it???

Enlightened folks don't need anyone's intervention to read their Bibles.

Only mushheads need folks to read it to them and "interpret it" for them, because they are really uninterested in the Bible.

One needs a basic overview of it, then they can figure it out just fine.

We prop up men as "spiritualists" to read to us a book that was originally written to simple, first century, everyday folks.

We form a hierarchy around it.

This is crazy.

 

[theefaith]

Problem is , The CC aint it my friend .
The sooner you get busy feasting on that bible you would see this .
You keep thinking the CC is that church . You have allowed the traditions of men
who claimed thus sayeth the LORD to cloud your mind . IT has taken you far from the simplicity which is in Christ .
You have come in the name of the papacy to lead people into a church you claim follows the teachings of Christ
and the orginal apostels .
And i am telling you if you would humble that heart and return to the scripture , it would not take long
before you started to realize the same thing that many catholics through all ages did realize .
OH DEAR WE BEEN DUPED . But you wont do that ..........will you .
You claim you follow the Tradition of Christ and of the original apostels
but i have come to point you back to THE HOLY INSPIRED scriptures themselves .
My friend its real easy to see that one of us is not following the original doctrine and pattern laid out and given to the orginal
church by Christ . OPEN that bible and seek HIM for yourself . Open and love the words of Christ ,
learning His pattern , His teachings , the pattern set by the very apostles you claim to follow .
IF YOU DID just that , you gonna see OH DEAR THE CC HAS LEFT OFF from the original pattern .
A JW cliams His church is truth , A mormon claims His church is truth
and so on and so forth . THE CC claims His church is truth .
The problem is they cant all be right . Truth is , none of those are .
TO learn the truth , RETURN YE TO THE HOLY BOOK called the bible and humble thyself and cry unto the glorious LORD .
FOR HE is full of mercy and compassion and desires not the death of any . GO YE AND LEARN HIM , IN THE BOOK
called the bible . THEN ye shall see and shall know and understand .

the church does not require scripture to know the truths of divine revelation!

 

[Truther]

then how can he be eternal?

He is...in the mind of God as the eternal human being, slain from the foundation of the world.

 

[Truther]

the church does not require scripture to know the truths of divine revelation!

LOL

 

[David in NJ]

LOL

i was going to post that as well, so thank you

 

[Truther]

i was going to post that as well, so thank you

You're welcome.

 

[JesusFan1]

Really? Do you mean that the Holy Spirit can't inspire people today? What about:
Hebrews 13:8
Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.
So to me that means his Holy Spirit can still inspire and encourage an guide and teach and comfort through written words that aren't scripture.

Not inspired in same sense the authores of the scriptures were!

 

[JesusFan1]

AGREE and the Holy Spirit delights in inspiring us today.

he does not inspire in same way as did the authors of the scriptures today!

 

[JesusFan1]

explain the teaching of Jesus Christ in person to his church of the apostles is garbage?

it’s not all in scripture!
Scripture says so! Jn 21:25

the apostle John disagrees with you
2 John 1:12
Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, and speak face to face, that our joy may be full.
So the apostle John in person is garbage?

And scripture never says all of the truths of divine revelation are contained in scripture!

tell me from scripture alone what is the fifth commandment?
Or
What did Christ command his apostles in Matt 28:20?

extra biblical is garbage?

abraham was not called by the Bible but by God? So God or God’s word is garbage? Is that what you’re saying?

lk 3:2 the word of God came to John in the wilderness, what book, chapter and verse was it???

Rome is NOT the true Church of Christ!

 

[Pearl]

Not inspired in same sense the authores of the scriptures were!

i would think that the Holy Spirit who does not change does not change the way he inspires. Scriptures are writings. Books are writings. Not with the same authority as the bible perhaps but nonetheless inspired by the Holy Spirit who does not change.

 

[Pearl]

Enlightened folks don't need anyone's intervention to read their Bibles.

Only mushheads need folks to read it to them and "interpret it" for them, because they are really uninterested in the Bible.

One needs a basic overview of it, then they can figure it out just fine.

We prop up men as "spiritualists" to read to us a book that was originally written to simple, first century, everyday folks.

We form a hierarchy around it.

This is crazy.

The only companion we need as we read our bibles is the Holy Spirit. The leaders of both the fellowships I've belonged to have taught people to check the scriptures for themselves and not rely solely on what they preach on a Sunday. I think that is a very healthy attitude. It's a shame that some people on here can only quote the false doctrines that they have been taught since childhood without asking for the help of the Holy Spirit in revealing the truths of the bible to them.

 

[David in NJ]

he does not inspire in same way as did the authors of the scriptures today!

The Authority of the Written Word has been completed as God designed according to His Will.

There is no new Revelation apart or beyond what has been given to us.

The Holy Spirit inspires in the same way as HE chooses for each of us who belong to Christ.

The work of the Holy Spirit continues in us in accordance with Scripture = Not beyond Scripture.

Elohim is above all and encompasses all as all things were made through Him.

We are Redeemed by the Word
Guided by the Word
Restrained by the Word
Corrected by the Word
Protected by the Word
Sanctified by the Word
Resurrected by the Word
Glorified by the Word

 

[theefaith]

Enlightened folks don't need anyone's intervention to read their Bibles.

Only mushheads need folks to read it to them and "interpret it" for them, because they are really uninterested in the Bible.

One needs a basic overview of it, then they can figure it out just fine.

We prop up men as "spiritualists" to read to us a book that was originally written to simple, first century, everyday folks.

We form a hierarchy around it.

This is crazy.

then you are saying Christ is crazy
He founded the church and hierarchy on the authority of Peter and the apostles

the unity of the church is faith
You cannot be in union without that faith

without the apostolic tradition you could not have a Bible or know what is and what is not scripture

Is the gospel of Thomas scripture or the gospel of Mathew?

How do you know?

The church does not require scripture to know the truths revealed by God! Jude 1:3, 1 Tim 3:15

Church is eternal! Lk 1:32-33

Christ and His apostolic church are one! Matt 5:14 Jn 15:1 Acts 9:4 eph 5:32 1 Tim 3:15

The holy church is a Perfect society founded by Christ for the salvation of all men!

And to Faithfully transmit and saintly safeguard the deposit of faith!

No one has authority from Christ except His church of the apostles to define and declare truth!

Scripture is the possession of the church!

All of divine revelation is the word of God and thee faith given to the church of the apostles by Christ
to safeguard against all error, and
to faithfully teach all nations!

The doctrine of the “Bible alone” is heresy and is opposed by the scriptures. Matt 16:28-19 Matt 18:18 Jn 29:21-23 Acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15

The church is an extension of Christ who taught the truth, and the church is commanded to teach all nations these same truths called the deposit of faith! Matt 28:19 Jude 1:3

All scripture came by tradition!

By divine, apostolic, and inspired human tradition that is verified by the apostolic tradition!

The church of the apostles founded by Christ on Peter & the apostles received all of the faith, all truths revealed by God personally taught by Christ to his church!

The rule of faith is the doctrine of the apostles! Or the apostolic tradition! Acts 2:42

All men Must be taught, or instructed, Lk 1:4 acts 8:31 and hear the church Matt 18:17 and the church is the pillar of truth 1 Tim 3:15 cos Christ and his apostolic church are one!
Matt 5:14 , Jn 15:5, Acts 9:4, Eph 5:32

Truth must be revealed by Christ Jude 1:3 and taught by his apostolic church. Matt 28:19

The holy church does not require scripture to know the truth cos the church received the “deposit of faith” Jude 1:3 from Christ in person and the church of the apostles by apostolic authority and inspired human authority wrote the scriptures, and the apostolic authority verified them, declared what is inspired scripture, and what is not the inspired scripture, as an example the gospel of Thomas is not inspired scripture but the gospel of Matthew is inspired scripture.

The deposit of faith, the entire divine revelation and word of God is given to the church of the apostles by Christ to safeguard against all error!
And to faithfully teach all nations!
Jude 1:3, Matt 28:19

The church of the apostles founded by Christ on Peter received all of the faith, all truths revealed by God personally taught by Christ to his apostles!

The rule of faith is the doctrine of the apostles! Acts 2:42

Must hear the church Matt 18:17 the church is the pillar of truth 1 Tim 3:15 cos Christ and his apostolic church are one!
Matt 5:14
Jn 15:5
Acts 9:4
eph 5:32

Truth must be revealed by Christ Jude 1:3 and taught by his apostolic church Matt 28:19

The church does not require scripture to know truth cos the church received the “deposit of faith” Jude 1:3 from Christ in person and the church of the apostles by apostolic authority and inspired human authority wrote the scriptures.

Scripture is the possession of the church! Used for the needs and purposes in the church!

All new testament Scripture was written by the church!


Divine revelation or the word of God! Handed to His church of the apostles by Christ! Jude 1:3
To safeguard against all error!
To faithfully teach all nations!
Matt 28:19

 

[theefaith]

He is...in the mind of God as the eternal human being, slain from the foundation of the world.

only God can be uncreated and eternal!