The absolute truth is known to God, but is a mystery (unknown) to us.
Even if we knew it, we couldn't comprehend it.
And we have been limited by God so that faith would be required.
We have enough truth to exercise faith.
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Absolute truth - Do we know what it is?
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Even if we knew it, we couldn't comprehend it.
And we have been limited by God so that faith would be required.
We have enough truth to exercise faith.
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Nope.
Colossians 1:26-27 (NKJV) 26 the mystery which has been hidden from ages and from generations, but now has been revealed to His saints. 27 To them God willed to make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles: which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.
If that is true concerning absolute truth, then you should be able to answer these questions.
- What was God doing before he did this?
- Why did He do this?
- Was global genocide the best solution to the world in Noah's day?
- What are his long-term plans for us?
- What will he do next?
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MA2444
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Your soul could not comprehend it. We are in the age where we must elevate our spirit above doctrine and law, for that is for the unbelievers. But for us who believe and do have faith, So we walk in spirit and in truth now for all things have become new.
The Holy Spirit bears witness with our spirit, which means the Holy Spirit talks directly to our spirit! Want the verse? Not only that but it also says that the Holy Spirit will lead us into all truth, right? Not some of the truth. Not most of the truth. ALL of the truth. I even looked All up i the Greek, and in Greek All means ALL!
Plus, where does it say, (James 1:5) 5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.../KJV
This doesn't say that we don't have absolute truth. But keep in mind that Wisdom is different than knowledge. Knowledge is of the mind, so of the soul. As you gain wisdom in your heart from seeking the Lord in spirit (and asking for wisdom & understanding) your spirit gets stronger in the Lord. The stonger we get in spirit, the more the Soul has to fall in line! The soul still will not/can not admit truths of God for it is incomprehensible to him. I have seen supernatural miracles and so know those truths...and my stupid soul will still continue to argue with me about it! Well that be explained this way or that way, it was a coincidence, it wasn't God...and crap like that. But the stronger that we get in spirit the weaker the soul sees to get and we find ourselves able to make those right choices so that the spirit is dictating what actions our flesh body takes! No body, become submissive to my spirit and go hungry! Sometimes when I am fasting, I get hunger pains creeping in and I know, that's the flesh talking! So I tell him he better shut up and stand down, or else I will add another day to the fast! Boom. Works every time.
So it's all about the Spirit Brother. Cultivate your spirit. Elevate your spirit to the Lord and in the Lord. Be led by the Spirit. Talk to the spirit. Worship the Spirit in spirit and in truth! That's where all of this is going! And indeed, is here now.
I think being hesitant to engage the things of the Spirit and relying totally on doctrine will inhibit ones spiritual growth in this age! Don't miss the Bus, Brother!
MA2444
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If those scriptures are true? Do you question the validity of the scriptures? They are true! It was a mystery to them for a long time but ever since Jesus came and did His work, things are different now. More...spiritual. You can get truth and knowledge directly from the Spirit of God.
Don't you believe in people getting words of knowledge from the Spirit of the Lord?
I have a dandy testimony about someone who got a word of knowledge abut me, and it was sure right on the money. I had never told those things to this man and he told me all sorts of things that, he had no way of knowing. He got it from God and delivered the message. Scared the bejeezus out of me! Hey he's talking my personal stuff here! Wanna hear it? It was pretty big!
amigo de christo
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well according to the best scientific minds and a lot within christendom
that would be that kids truth . No he didnt eat the cookies , his mouth ate them .
This generation is totally tanked .
its abandoned the true hope and put all hope in carnal reasoning that it so desires to beleive is spiritual .
Would you like to know why so many love to cling to the wisdom that twists the scrips .
cause they WANT to beleive a lie . NOW of course they dont want to believe its a lie but rather it is the Truth .
You know what they all have in common . Its not what they believe cause they doctrine and beliefs
do differ one from the other , Its what their heart wants to beleive is true . A FAT LIE that twisted the scrips
that were in the way of what THEY REALLY wanted to beleive . YOU MIGHT wanna ask me about the latter part of this .
You see no matter if one be a jw , a mormon , a muslim , a hindu , a mouth only
a two gospel man , an interfaith man ,
You know what they all have in common . THEY NEVER LOVED THE TRUTH
they loved only what the father of lies and his ever many peoples and their own minds and hearts WANTED .
PREACH UNTO US what our own lustful hearts desire and tell us THUS SAYETH THE LORD so we can feel saved
and fine .
Behold
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MA2444
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They like Iceland and wanted to keep it private so not many immigrants would come there. So the got the idea to name iceland, iceland so it sounds more inhospitable and named greenland, greenland so it would sound more inviting and they would go there instead of iceland.
Is that your opinion, or is there some historical evidence for this?
I doubt that Iceland had concerns about immigration.
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Absolutely, John.
I believe with the use of the Bible, we can get to as close to the truth that God wants us to know if we seek after him, he will reward us in these. Doesn't mean everyone has to believe the things which I've founded.
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MA2444
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I don't know. It's something I read one time and I didn't write down where I read it.
The rest of your post shows how good of an idea they had. It worked on you, lol. Who wants to move to Iceland?
I'm not being dogmatic about it, it's something I read one time.
I fail to see how this is relevant to what I posted.
Are you aware of the work of William Tyndale in enabling ordinary people to read the scriptures and of the affect this had on Christianity.
I ask you how do people who cannot read or who do not have the bible in their language learn about Jesus.
May I suggest you research the history of E angelica missions and how they have always provided the bible in the local language, taught the poor to read and write etc and promoted the welfare of those people.
Colonial powers resisted the establishment of Christian missions because of there support of the poor and opposition to corrupt colonial practices.
What do you think of the biblical command to protect the poor, the widow, orphan and the alien?
Exactly.
Countless billions have gone to the afterlife with no knowledge of Jesus.
Christians consider them to be hell-bound haters of God. (pagans)
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MA2444
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Maybe, maybe not. We don't know what goes on behind the scenes.
I remember hearing a testimony from some missionary lady who went to a island where a tribe lived that had never been contacted by the outside world before. They ade friends with them easy enough by giving them food and gifts, and a few days into their visit they brought out their bibles and began speaking the good news message to them, and to their amazement, these people already knew of what they were talking about.
That baffled her. How could they know. She set off to find an elder of the tribe and asked him, how do you know these things? He said oh the Teacher told us and went on to describe a visitor in a purple robe which came to them at times and taught them...(Jesus!)
Narrow path, few there be that find it is true, but I dunno how accurate your statement was because there is obviously so much going on behind the scenes that I have to question your statement in it's entirety.
Maybe you're right and maybe your not? It's a choice that we have to make, right? How can people live here and never get enough info about it to make a proper choice? Those people were born with a seed of God within them, right? So do you think the Lord would let them go to be condemned? I think that's when death bed conversions come into play!
How would you or I know what's happening in a persons heart as their dying?
And what about that statement from Jesus? All you have given me I have not lost even one...
Because it is not the norm. But does happen sometimes. But not all the time, or she would not have been baffled.
This is why I think it is a mistake to assume a person has to make a decision before they enter the afterlife.
There will an Age of Restoration where all this is sorted out. Jesus will not lose anyone.
We know that no one can come to God unless he draws them. We call these the Elect, predestined for life. (here and now)
What about everyone else? Those that God did not choose to draw to himself? Predestined to destruction?
Acts 3:21 NIV
Heaven must receive him until the time comes for God to restore everything,
as he promised long ago through his holy prophets.
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amigo de christo
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are you sure you are not already under the sway of what is known as social gospel .
Because just as men do they often twist things to fit an agenda .
My advice is , if you are heeding what is called the social gospel , RUN fast as ye can out of its grasp .
I warn against the prosperity gospel too , its false as well .
You can read . right . SO pick up the bible and start learning , GOD will work on those who cannot read .
YOU CAN . so no excuse . BIBLE UP friend .
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