Absolute truth - Do we know what it is?

[St. SteVen]

Yes, believers know the Truth. The TRUTH is what’s written in the Bible, and the author of this Book we call the Bible is God.

You LOVED my comment below.

Perhaps the reason absolute truth seems so illusive is because faith is required.

Don't you understand that it says we are prevented from knowing absolute truth because that would NOT be faith?

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[Lambano]

Sorry, that is not the truth.
Can we know ABSOLUTE truth?

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What's the difference between "ABSOLUTE Truth" and your garden-variety Truth?

"I'd rather have this bottle in front of me than...."

 

[St. SteVen]

What is the reason you believe the apple is red? Is it a valid reason? And as far as Truth (absolute or garden-variety) is concerned, is the apple REALLY red?

All based on perception. Not a good determinant of absolute truth.
If you were color blind it might be a brown apple. ??? Is that truth?

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[St. SteVen]

What's the difference between "ABSOLUTE Truth" and your garden-variety Truth?

Mom asks, "Did you eat those chocolate chip cookies?" - "Nope."



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[St. SteVen]

What's the difference between "ABSOLUTE Truth" and your garden-variety Truth?

I suppose ABSOLUTE deals with the really BIG questions. (existential) ???
The garden variety are for day-to-day questions. "Did you eat the last cookie?"

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[St. SteVen]

"I'd rather have this bottle in front of me than...."

... than a frontal lobotomy." - LOL

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[Lambano]

All based on perception. Not a good determinant of absolute truth.
If you were color blind it might be a brown apple. ??? Is that truth?

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Nah, someone who was red/green color blind (like both our sons) could still analyze the wavelength reflected light and determine if it falls within the spectrum defined as "red". Then you have to trust the measurement equipment and the definition of "red" and figure out how to interpret that other parts of the reflected spectrum that don't fall into the "red" bucket...

Are you arguing that it's not possible to KNOW anything?

Or is the argument that to KNOW something requires trust (faith) in something else, whether that something is your eyeballs, your measurement equipment, whatever?

 

[IronMaiden]

Sorry, that is not the truth.
Can we know ABSOLUTE truth?

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Is Scripture true? Most certainly! Can just anyone believe or know absolute TRUTH? No, only BELIEVERS are given this wisdom.

1 Corinthians 2:9-16 (NKJV) 9 But as it is written: “Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the heart of man The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.” 10 But God has revealed [them] to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. 11 For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God. 13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know [them,] because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is [rightly] judged by no one. 16 For “who has known the mind of the LORD that he may instruct Him?” But we have the mind of Christ.

 

[IronMaiden]

You LOVED my comment below.

Don't you understand that it says we are prevented from knowing absolute truth because that would NOT be faith?

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But only BELIEVERS in CHRIST JESUS are given FAITH. Get it?

 

[Lambano]

... than a frontal lobotomy." - LOL

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Existential Blues

 

[Lambano]

Mom asks, "Did you eat those chocolate chip cookies?" - "Nope."

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Is that an example of ABSOLUTE UnTruth?

 

[St. SteVen]

This is what you wrote.

For those of us who believe the Truth, we know (not just suppose) that Scripture never contradicts Scripture.

My response.

St. SteVen said:
Sorry, that is not the truth.
Can we know ABSOLUTE truth?

Is Scripture true? Most certainly! Can just anyone believe or know absolute TRUTH? No, only BELIEVERS are given this wisdom.

I wasn't questioning whether scripture is true.
Can we know absolute truth? If we could, faith would not be required.
Are your beliefs based on absolute truth, or faith?

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[IronMaiden]

This is what you wrote.

My response.

St. SteVen said:
Sorry, that is not the truth.
Can we know ABSOLUTE truth?

I wasn't questioning whether scripture is true.
Can we know absolute truth? If we could, faith would not be required.
Are your beliefs based on absolute truth, or faith?

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Faith!!!!!!!

 

[Behold]

Can we know absolute truth? If we could, faith would not be required.

To access Absolute Truth, you have to put YOUR faith in Christ, as He is : THE Truth...... John 14:6

 

[IronMaiden]

To access Absolute Truth, you have to have faith in Christ, as He is : THE Truth...... John 14:6

Absolutely TRUE!!!

 

[IronMaiden]

SCRIPTURE IS ABSOLUTE TRUTH!

 

[St. SteVen]

St. SteVen said:
Mom asks, "Did you eat those chocolate chip cookies?" - "Nope."

Is that an example of ABSOLUTE UnTruth?

A jury of his peers should decide. - LOL

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[St. SteVen]

SCRIPTURE IS ABSOLUTE TRUTH!

There is no consensus on what scripture means.
Where does that leave you?

What's your position on OSAS? (eternal security)

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[St. SteVen]

Faith!!!!!!!

That would mean NOT absolute truth.

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[Lambano]

I suppose ABSOLUTE deals with the really BIG questions. (existential) ???
The garden variety are for day-to-day questions. "Did you eat the last cookie?"

What are your really BIG existential questions?

(And I keep hearing all the preachers who said, "what question isn't small to God?" echoing in my head.)