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Yeah, He can do that, just like He can send Himself in the flesh. He sent Himself in Jesus!
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Yes exactly like a Phoenix from paganism, an idol. Someone died then they resurrected themselves therefore they didn't die. Creates a problem for who or what the sin sacrifice is exactly in Trinitarianism. Did the Son of God die for sins? If so how? Would love to see someone from the other side answer this.
CHURCH FATHERS: The Phoenix (Lactantius)
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CHURCH FATHERS: Catechetical Lecture 18 (Cyril of Jerusalem)
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A curious passage on the Resurrection is somewhat of an interruption in the sequence: all creation proves the Resurrection, and so does the phoenix, which every five hundred years consumes itself, that its offspring may arise out of its ashes (23-6). Let us, Clement continues, forsake evil and approach God with purity, clinging to His blessing, which the Patriarchs so richly obtained, for the Lord will quickly come with His rewards, let us look to Jesus Christ, our High-Priest, above the angels at the right hand of the Father CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Pope St. Clement I
Was Christianity plagiarized from pagan myths?
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Offspring of this bird does not equal a resurrection of the orignal bird.
Runningman
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How is that co-equality if God the Father is doing His own thing while the Son doesn't get to decide?
Runningman
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Brilliant. The original bird is now dead and there's a new bird. So the Father died and Jesus died, but then Jesus was resurrected, yet it's a different Jesus? This is so much worse than I previously thought. Are you Catholic?CHURCH FATHERS: The Phoenix (Lactantius)
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CHURCH FATHERS: Catechetical Lecture 18 (Cyril of Jerusalem)
Featuring the Church Fathers, Catholic Encyclopedia, Summa Theologica and more.www.newadvent.org
A curious passage on the Resurrection is somewhat of an interruption in the sequence: all creation proves the Resurrection, and so does the phoenix, which every five hundred years consumes itself, that its offspring may arise out of its ashes (23-6). Let us, Clement continues, forsake evil and approach God with purity, clinging to His blessing, which the Patriarchs so richly obtained, for the Lord will quickly come with His rewards, let us look to Jesus Christ, our High-Priest, above the angels at the right hand of the Father CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Pope St. Clement I
from the ashes, a new Phoenix would ariseWas Christianity plagiarized from pagan myths?
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Offspring of this bird does not equal a resurrection of the orignal bird.
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You want me to explain the INFINITE God of the Bible?
Matthew 28:19
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name (singular) of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Wrangler
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Aren’t you adding words to Scripture here? There is only one God, the Father. When Scripture refers to God, as n this case, it is referring to all that he is. ALL that God is, decides who sits next to Jesus. Jesus does not decide. Profound.
The Granville Sharp Rule states, “When the copulative kai connects two nouns of the same case, [viz. nouns (either substantive or adjective, or participles) of personal description, respecting office, dignity, affinity, or connexion, and attributes, properties, or qualities, good or ill], if the article ho, or any of its cases, precedes the first of the said nouns or participles, and is not repeated before the second noun or participle, the latter always relates to the same person that is expressed or described by the first noun or participle” (Remarks on the Uses of the Definitive Article, 3).
In simpler terms, the Granville Sharp Rule says that when two singular common nouns are used to describe a person, and those two nouns are joined by an additive conjunction, and the definite article precedes the first noun but not the second, then both nouns refer to the same person. This principle of semantics holds true in all languages. For example, consider this sentence:
We met with the owner and the curator of the museum, Mr. Holton.
...
Two of the New Testament verses associated with the Granville Sharp Rule are Titus 2:13 and 2 Peter 1:1. The KJV translates Titus 2:13 as, “Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ.” In the original Greek, the words for “God” and “Savior” are joined by kai, and the definite article ho is only used once, preceding “God”; according to the Granville Sharp Rule, both God and Savior must refer to the same person, namely, Jesus Christ. The NASB 1977 renders the verse more literally: “Looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus.”
Similarly, 2 Peter 1:1 refers to “our God and Savior Jesus Christ.” Following Granville Sharp’s rule, Jesus Christ is clearly identified as both “God” and “Savior,” another example of the Bible’s teaching of the deity of Christ. The grammatical construction of the Greek makes it plain: definite article + singular noun + copulative conjunction + singular noun = the same person.
Though the Granville Sharp Rule may seem arcane, the concept has an important impact regarding Bible translation and our understanding of the nature of Christ. The New Testament passages where this rule applies highlight the deity of Jesus Christ. He is more than the Messiah; He is God.
In simpler terms, the Granville Sharp Rule says that when two singular common nouns are used to describe a person, and those two nouns are joined by an additive conjunction, and the definite article precedes the first noun but not the second, then both nouns refer to the same person. This principle of semantics holds true in all languages. For example, consider this sentence:
We met with the owner and the curator of the museum, Mr. Holton.
...
Two of the New Testament verses associated with the Granville Sharp Rule are Titus 2:13 and 2 Peter 1:1. The KJV translates Titus 2:13 as, “Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ.” In the original Greek, the words for “God” and “Savior” are joined by kai, and the definite article ho is only used once, preceding “God”; according to the Granville Sharp Rule, both God and Savior must refer to the same person, namely, Jesus Christ. The NASB 1977 renders the verse more literally: “Looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus.”
Similarly, 2 Peter 1:1 refers to “our God and Savior Jesus Christ.” Following Granville Sharp’s rule, Jesus Christ is clearly identified as both “God” and “Savior,” another example of the Bible’s teaching of the deity of Christ. The grammatical construction of the Greek makes it plain: definite article + singular noun + copulative conjunction + singular noun = the same person.
Though the Granville Sharp Rule may seem arcane, the concept has an important impact regarding Bible translation and our understanding of the nature of Christ. The New Testament passages where this rule applies highlight the deity of Jesus Christ. He is more than the Messiah; He is God.
What is the Granville Sharp Rule? | GotQuestions.org
What is the Granville Sharp Rule? What are the implications of the Granville Sharp Rule on Titus 2:13 and 2 Peter 1:1?
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You already quoted Scripture that proves Jesus is God.
Colossians 1:16-17
16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.
17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.
Remember?
Notice μου appears twice.
John 20:28 ►
Text Analysis
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Strong's Greek English Morphology 611 [e] Ἀπεκρίθη
apekrithēAnswered V-AIP-3S 2381 [e] Θωμᾶς
ThōmasThomas N-NMS 2532 [e] καὶ
kaiand Conj 3004 [e] εἶπεν
eipensaid V-AIA-3S 846 [e] αὐτῷ
autōto Him, PPro-DM3S 3588 [e] Ὁ
HOThe Art-VMS 2962 [e] Κύριός
KyriosLord N-NMS 1473 [e] μου
mouof Me PPro-G1S 2532 [e] καὶ
kaiand Conj 3588 [e] ὁ
hothe Art-VMS 2316 [e] Θεός
TheosGod N-NMS 1473 [e] μου.
mouof me! PPro-G1S
Definition of CONJUNCTION
an uninflected linguistic form that joins together sentences, clauses, phrases, or words; the act or an instance of conjoining : the state of being conjoined : combination; occurrence together in time or space : concurrence… See the full definition
Wrangler
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Yet, the verse you cite does not even mention God or his nature. Yet, you ignore other verses that explicitly say there is only one God and his name is YHWH.
The Granville Sharp Rule is a misapplication of English grammar to Greek grammar. The article doesn't go through KAI.The Granville Sharp Rule states, “When the copulative kai connects two nouns of the same case, [viz. nouns (either substantive or adjective, or participles) of personal description, respecting office, dignity, affinity, or connexion, and attributes, properties, or qualities, good or ill], if the article ho, or any of its cases, precedes the first of the said nouns or participles, and is not repeated before the second noun or participle, the latter always relates to the same person that is expressed or described by the first noun or participle” (Remarks on the Uses of the Definitive Article, 3).
In simpler terms, the Granville Sharp Rule says that when two singular common nouns are used to describe a person, and those two nouns are joined by an additive conjunction, and the definite article precedes the first noun but not the second, then both nouns refer to the same person. This principle of semantics holds true in all languages. For example, consider this sentence:
We met with the owner and the curator of the museum, Mr. Holton.
...
Two of the New Testament verses associated with the Granville Sharp Rule are Titus 2:13 and 2 Peter 1:1. The KJV translates Titus 2:13 as, “Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ.” In the original Greek, the words for “God” and “Savior” are joined by kai, and the definite article ho is only used once, preceding “God”; according to the Granville Sharp Rule, both God and Savior must refer to the same person, namely, Jesus Christ. The NASB 1977 renders the verse more literally: “Looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus.”
Similarly, 2 Peter 1:1 refers to “our God and Savior Jesus Christ.” Following Granville Sharp’s rule, Jesus Christ is clearly identified as both “God” and “Savior,” another example of the Bible’s teaching of the deity of Christ. The grammatical construction of the Greek makes it plain: definite article + singular noun + copulative conjunction + singular noun = the same person.
Though the Granville Sharp Rule may seem arcane, the concept has an important impact regarding Bible translation and our understanding of the nature of Christ. The New Testament passages where this rule applies highlight the deity of Jesus Christ. He is more than the Messiah; He is God.
What is the Granville Sharp Rule? | GotQuestions.org
What is the Granville Sharp Rule? What are the implications of the Granville Sharp Rule on Titus 2:13 and 2 Peter 1:1?www.gotquestions.org
TSKS is assumed to be equivalent to TSKTS.
Wrangler
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LOl
Through not by. You must be desperate to continue to invoke a known error.
How UTTERLY evasive!
"Matthew 28:19
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name (singular) of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,"
They are ONE!
You left this part out.
Colossians 1:16-17
16 All things were created through Him and for Him.
17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.
Proving Jesus is God!
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