A heretical teaching dismantled with the help of Paul the Evangelist.

[amigo de christo]

Are you tired of sitting yet?

One who sits under CHRIST never grows weary and tired . So allow me some parting words .
Never sit under a harlot for though she be decked up in great beautiful garments her chambers are full of death .
The dead know not they are trapped betwixt her breasts of death and have been led to a lie .
WHEN THE GOODMAN COMETH they will know but then shall wail . Just friendly words i pray many will take heed too .

 

[Taken]

That is their approach for they cannot , by scriptures prove you wrong so then the accusation is OH YOU KNOW EVERTHING .
And yet they sit under their own decieved religoin as though its vaticans and elders KNEW .
Its a tatic . yet they fail to see its they who are guilty of what they are trying so hard to accuse you of being guilty of ...........
STAY DUG IN THE BIBLE . Never ever , evah evah , ever sit under a harlot , for there is not telling what disease she gonna give ya .

I just don’t get it. Statues, bowing, beads, trinkets, born without sin, forever virgin…
Why? Makes her sound like a husband defying unbearable horrible wife.
Her remembrance is supposed to be that of a willing, blessed, wife, mother and faithful humbled servant.

 

[David in NJ]

I just don’t get it. Statues, bowing, beads, trinkets, born without sin, forever virgin…
Why? Makes her sound like a husband defying unbearable horrible wife.
Her remembrance is supposed to be that of a willing, blessed, wife, mother and faithful humbled servant.

Pray those beads until all your sins are forgiven - then come back next week and do it again, and again, and again, and.................

i was told that if you kneel on rice(uncooked) while praying the beads it shows you mean business with God.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

This thread is directed at those who claim both the following:

(i) that Joseph, Simon, James, and Judas (Jude/Thaddeus) in Matt: 13:55/Mk. 6:3 were Jesus's siblings
(ii) that James of the four in Matt: 13:55/Mk. 6:3 and James in Gal. 1:19 were the same person

In Gal. 1:18-19, it's indicated by Paul that James was both an apostle of the Twelve and a family member of Jesus. The reason being that after Paul mentions he had seen the apostle Peter, one of the twelve apostles, in Jerusalem, he continues to say that he didn't see any of the other apostles, except James. The context of Gal. 1:18-19 is what indicates that James was one of the twelve apostles. It's the title "the Lord's brother" that follows James's first name that indicates he was also Jesus's family member.

The flaw in your believing that James in Gal. 1:19 was James of the four "siblings" of Jesus in Matt. 13:55/Mk. 6:3 is that the former was one of the Twelve, which means that he had he had to have been either James of Zebedee or James of Alphaeus, and neither of them were a son of Joseph and Mary.

Therefore, I've proven the belief that Joseph, Simon, James, and Judas (Jude/Thaddeus) in Matt. 13:55/Mk. 6:3 were Jesus's siblings to be false using Scripture alone, but if you continue to repeat it as true, then I'll continue to challenge you to refute the evidence to the contrary in this post. If you have a sliver of conviction in your belief, then you'd attempt to try. Note: This in itself does not prove Mary of Joseph was a perpetual Virgin, though there are reasons that show She is.

However, you are still right about two things: that James in Matt. 13:55/Mk. 6:3 was Jesus's family member, and that he and apostle James of the Twelve in Gal. 1:19 were the same person, who again, was either apostle James of Zebedee or apostle James of Alphaeus. So, what type of family member would either apostle James of Zebedee, or apostle James of Alphaeus, have been to Jesus?

The answer is here, and in short, there I've shown that James in Matt. 13:55/Mk. 6:3, James in Gal. 1:19, and the apostle James of Alphaeus, etc., were the same person, and that he and his siblings Joseph, Simon, and Judas (who I've also shown was the apostle Judas of Alphaeus) were the sons of Joseph's brother, Alphaeus, and thus Jesus's cousins. And, they were called Jesus's "ἀδελφοί" (sing. ἀδελφός adelphos; pl. ἀδελφοὶ adelphoi), or "brothers" in English, and because the information I provided in the previously cited link shows they were His family, specifically cousins, that's why its definition "a near kinsman, or relative," which can and has been used to refer to various types of kin, including cousin, applies.​

 

[Taken]

Pray those beads until all your sins are forgiven - then come back next week and do it again, and again, and again, and.................

i was told that if you kneel on rice(uncooked) while praying the beads it shows you mean business with God.

Oh geeze…
Lie upon Lie never arrives at the Truth.
Sadly some people put the devil himself to shame by outdoing his cunning deception.

Sad.

God Bless you and yours,
Taken

 

[Marymog]

Over your head

Translation: I can't explain what I believe so I will act like I'm smarter than you

 

[Marymog]

Not going to thumb through all your posts.
So, just give a simple answer and go from there.

When you go to your church DO YOU BOW down before any statues?
Either you do or you do not.
Don’t be scared, it’s simple, yes or no.

Got it....You said something that you can't back up.

Thank you for your time!

 

[Marymog]

What a load of twisted nonsense.
Mary you are the one who brought up if a man is the church, is a pillar, is the foundation…..that was your words, your theory, not mine…

I didn’t agree with that nonsense….and now you say that was my theory….

What is wrong with you? What a zig zag game you play while trying to pass it off as following Christ, doing His will.

Astounding.

Ummmm......Taken.........You said in post #288 "Christs Church is IN a man........wherever the man is, in his home, at work, at a park, flying in a plane, sleeping, eating, working, playing….Christ’s Church is IN that man and that man is IN Christ’s Church."

Sooooo according to your theory posted above whenever Scripture uses the word "church" (Matthew 18:17, 1 Timothy 3:15) the "church" in those passages is a man. Correct???????????????

Soooooo...........How am I twisting what you said?

You can help clear all this up if you just tell me what "church" you go to when you want to fulfill Matthew 18:17?

Or you can fill in the blanks: Marymog refuses to hear me so I went to tell it to ______________. But Marymog refuses even to hear ___________, so we have decided to treat Marymog like a heathen and a tax collector.

Curious and Patient Mary

 

[Marymog]

Oh, so when you asked my answer to Matt 18:15-17…

And I quoted as my answer, Matt 18:15…
You complained and accused.

LOL..oh goodness Taken.

You do realize that you are admitting that you didn't answer my question and then accusing me of complaining for not answering that question. Right?

You are wearing me out....

 

[Marymog]

Oh, so when you asked my answer to Matt 18:15-17…

And I quoted as my answer, Matt 18:15…
You complained and accused.

And now even you say you would not bring me before your Church….to settle a trespass….according to Matt 18: 17…

Does that mean your complaint and accusation applies to yourself ?

You crack me up Taken. I never said I would not bring you before my Church to settle a trespass. If I said that quote me or stop lying (again).

Here is the QUESTION you cut out of my post: What church would you like to go to so we can, according to Scripture, settle our differences?

Why did you cut that question out and refuse to answer it? Are you scared to answer that question? You can't answer that question? Have your men not taught you how to answer that question?


Curious Mary

 

[Marymog]

Not a dodge. Was an answer that applies to me.

I deal with trespasses, if they are know, one on one.

You have lodged all kinds of complaints against me….So, why are you not dragging me into your Church to settle our differences?

Eh, might it be you who dodges?

Are you going to answer or not? It's a simple question dodgeball: How do you fulfil Matthew 18:17?

If you are not going to answer just let me know so we can move on!!

 

[Marymog]

Sure I have Scriptures to back up what I say and believe.

Then give them ...........

 

[Marymog]

That is their approach for they cannot , by scriptures prove you wrong so then the accusation is ...........

Says the member who never posts scripture

 

[Marymog]

Oh geeze…
Lie upon Lie never arrives at the Truth.
Sadly some people put the devil himself to shame by outdoing his cunning deception.

Sad.

God Bless you and yours,
Taken

(The Encounter Team will be mainly focused in the area of fellowship. Our desire is to raise the level of fellowship within the community and fostering an environment that will bring a much needed boost to Christianity Board and a friendlier face to our Christian community.)

Marymog, and I suspect @BreadOfLife @Illuminator @Philip James, ain't feeling that friendlier face of fellowship from Taken when he compares the Catholic rosery to the devil's deception.

What say you BOL, Illuminator and Philip?

 

[Marymog]

I deal with trespasses, if they are know, one on one.

Good job. You fulfilled Matthew 18:15-16 when you did that.

But you dodged answering 18:17.....

Wanna try again?

 

[Marymog]

Whatever the RCC may have been when it started, it has long since been thoroughly corrupted by Satan.
It is a dog and pony show set up to appeal to the masses -- making them feel that they're "being religious" through the use of pomp, pageantry, ritual and idolatry; none of which have any support in scripture.

Hey Jim C,

I have heard many different takes from Protestants like you on when the Catholic Church "started". Some of your fellow Protestants say it started in the 1st century but was corrupted by the 3rd century. Some say it got started by Constantine.

What say you?

Mary

 

[Taken]

Translation: I can't explain what I believe so I will act like I'm smarter than you

Same ploy different day.
Speaking for others, then you disagree, then a snarky remark to your own comment.

GASLIGHTER

 

[Taken]

Ummmm......Taken.........You said in post #288 "Christs Church is IN a man........wherever the man is, in his home, at work, at a park, flying in a plane, sleeping, eating, working, playing….Christ’s Church is IN that man and that man is IN Christ’s Church."

Sooooo according to your theory posted above whenever Scripture uses the word "church" (Matthew 18:17, 1 Timothy 3:15) the "church" in those passages is a man. Correct???????????????

Soooooo...........How am I twisting what you said?

You can help clear all this up if you just tell me what "church" you go to when you want to fulfill Matthew 18:17?

Or you can fill in the blanks: Marymog refuses to hear me so I went to tell it to ______________. But Marymog refuses even to hear ___________, so we have decided to treat Marymog like a heathen and a tax collector.

Curious and Patient Mary

Christ’s church is with-IN me.
Christ IS His Church.
Christ’s Church is without observation.
You can NOT SEE Christ’s Church.
Correct, where ever I am, so also is Christ’s Church.
Any time, of Any day or night, I CAN Praise, Worship, Pray to, Ask, Bless, Hear from, the Lord God Almighty.


Your Church is the Catholic Church.
Your Church is man-made.
Your Church a person CAN SEE.


1 Cor 3:
[16] Know ye not that ye (CONVERTED, SANCTIFIED, SAVED, BORN AGAIN Men) are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

 

[Taken]

Good job. You fulfilled Matthew 18:15-16 when you did that.

But you dodged answering 18:17.....

Wanna try again?

Mary, the ENTIRE BIBLE does not apply to me. When you ask me, how I would respond to something that does not apply to me…
There is nothing applicable to respond to.

My soul was SAVED ONCE, and will never again require saving.

My spirit was QUICKENED ONCE, and will never again require Quickening.

My SIN against God was FORGIVEN ONCE, and will never again require repeating.

I have no clue what you Believe, have Done, regarding your soul, your spirit, your sin Against God.

It appears you must repeatedly ask for Forgiveness…and about your soul….some people believe they have to KEEP doing “something/ works”, to KEEP their soul saved.
By what other Catholics have said and do, those things apply to them…

You can speak for yourself.
I don’t speak for all-non-Catholics.
I speak what I believe, and what applies to me.
(But I do notice, you continually delight in speaking FOR OTHERS)….and have notice it almost appears as a trait, common among Catholics.

 

[Taken]

(The Encounter Team will be mainly focused in the area of fellowship. Our desire is to raise the level of fellowship within the community and fostering an environment that will bring a much needed boost to Christianity Board and a friendlier face to our Christian community.)

Marymog, and I suspect @BreadOfLife @Illuminator @Philip James, ain't feeling that friendlier face of fellowship from Taken when he compares the Catholic rosery to the devil's deception.

What say you BOL, Illuminator and Philip?

I fellowship with brothers IN Christ.
I do not have a common ground with BOL or YOU, who both excessively SPEAK FOR OTHERS (what they have NOT themselves SAID, nor BELIEVE)….then AFTER SPEAKING FOR THEM….you/BOL….then give your DISAPPROVAL (AS IF THE OTHER HAD SAID WHAT YOU SAID FOR THEM)….

THAT IS GASLIGHTING….

And begins with a making up a LIE and trying to make another BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE LIE.

STOP speaking for others!!

Illuminator and I differences, so what?
He is not rude, crude, nor speaks FOR others.

Philip is a dear friend. His is Catholic, and we differences, but we also have common ground.