A few shall be left

[Stewardofthemystery]

During the thousand year reign of Christ the earth is to be repopulated by those who are left. We know this because after the thousand year reign Satan is once again loosed to deceive the nations, and gather them to battle against the saints. The number of which is shown in Revelation 20:8 as "the sand of the sea" in number.

So Yes, there will be some people left on earth after the cleansing by fire. We know this by the words of God; just as Jesus said except those days are shortened "no flesh" would survive.” This indicates that some who are still of the flesh will survive.

We are told in 2 Peter 3:7-13 “But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat.
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness."

The Lord said He would make man rare in number on earth, like the finest of gold. And He also said a "few men" shall be left.

Isaiah 24:6
Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and "few men" left.

Notice people will still be "sinning and dying" after the new heavens an new earth....

Isaiah 65:17-25 “For, behold, I create "new heavens and a new earth": and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.
19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child "shall die"an hundred years old; but "the sinner"being an hundred years old shall be accursed.

21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of
a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
23 They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the Lord, and their offspring with them.
24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord."

Many believe the above verses from Isaiah are speaking of after the millennial reign of Christ on earth because it speaks of new heavens and a new earth. But notice in verse 20 above there are people who are still "dying and sinning". This cannot be the saints who are of the "first resurrection" because we are told the second death has no power over them.(Rev. 20:6) Also, if people are still "dying" it means the last enemy (which is death) has not been destroyed yet, as shown here....

1 Corinthians 15:26
The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
Revelation 20:14
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

So we can only conclude that the passages above from Isaiah 65 are during the millennial reign of Christ on earth. We also see prior to death being destroyed Satan is loosed again and goes out and deceives "the nations"....


Revelation 20:7-8 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to "deceive the nations" which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea."

These revived nations are shown here in Daniel 7:12 "As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for "a season and a time"." (= a thousand years)

In order for there to be "nations" as the number of the sand of the sea, there has to be those who are of "the flesh" that survive the cleansing of fire mentioned by Peter. And these survivors are the ones who can still sin and die during the millennial reign of Christ on earth. These survivors are also the ones who will repopulate the earth during this time. And they are the ones who will be "deceived" when Satan is let loose after the thousand years. So you will have mortals and immortals on the earth at the same time.

It all makes perfect sense when you put all the pieces together. Peace and God bless.

 

[Zao is life]

During the thousand year reign of Christ the earth is to be repopulated by those who are left. We know this because after the thousand year reign Satan is once again loosed to deceive the nations, and gather them to battle against the saints. The number of which is shown in Revelation 20:8 as "the sand of the sea" in number.

So Yes, there will be some people left on earth after the cleansing by fire. We know this by the words of God; just as Jesus said except those days are shortened "no flesh" would survive.” This indicates that some who are still of the flesh will survive.

It does not all "make perfect sense" when you place the commencement of the new heavens and new earth a thousand years after the return of Christ.

This is a mystery to almost every saint:

(a) There are too many scriptures that do not have the millennium as commencing a thousand years before the New Heavens and New Earth, or the New Heavens and New Earth as commencing a thousand years after the return of Christ.

(b) There are also too many scriptures that do not have the millennium as being current or commencing before the return of Christ.

Matthew 19:28
"Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth: In the age when all things are renewed, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel." (Matthew 19:28 NETfree).

The underlined words are translated slightly differently in other Bible versions, but mean one thing only:

"At the renewal of all things" (NIV)
"When the world is made new" (NLT)
"In the new world" (ESV)
"In the regeneration" (NKJV)

"Him who overcomes I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will go out no more. And I will write upon him the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God, New Jerusalem, which comes down out of Heaven from My God, and My new name.

He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches." (Rev.3:12-13).
"And he who overcomes and keeps My works to the end, to him I will give power over the nations. (Rev.2:26).

To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me in My throne, even as I also overcame and have sat down with My Father in His throne. (Revelation.3:21; also see Revelation 20:4).

βασιλεύσει (He will reign) forever and ever: Revelation 11:15 (Christ).
βασιλεύσουσιν (they will reign) on the earth: Revelation 5:10 (those who overcome).
βασιλεύσουσιν (they will reign) with Christ a thousand years: Revelation 20:4 (those who overcame).

βασιλεύσουσιν (they will reign) forever and ever: (Revelation 22:5).

THE FIRST THREE AND THE LAST THREE CHAPTERS OF THE BIBLE

God's creation (Genesis 1:1-31) ⇾ Christ makes all things new (Revelation 21:5).
Perfectly good (Genesis 1:31) ⇾ Only righteousness dwells in it (Revelation 21:27).
Tree of life (Genesis 2:9, 16-17) ⇾ Tree of life (Revelation 21:6; Revelation 22:1-2, 14, 17).
Adam given dominion (Genesis 1:26-28) ⇾ Last Adam given dominion (Revelation 20:4).
Satan's deception (Genesis 3:1-7, 11-19) ⇾ Satan's deception (Revelation 20:7-10).
Adam's death. Expulsion from Eden (Genesis 3:22-24) ⇾ Second death. Lake of fire (Revelation 20:11-15; Revelation 21:8).

ONLY CHRIST, THE LAST ADAM AND THE SON OF MAN POSSESSES IMMORTALITY IN HIMSELF

-- He (Christ) alone possesses immortality and lives in unapproachable light, whom no human has ever seen or is able to see. To him be honor and eternal power! Amen. --- 1 Timothy 6:15-16, NETfree version.

-- "For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has given to the Son to have life within Himself" -- John 5:26

-- "I am the First and the Last, and the Living One, and I became dead, and behold, I am alive for ever and ever, Amen. And I have the keys of hades and of death." -- Revelation 1:17-18.

Which means only He has the key to the second death, which is the lake of fire.

EVERLASTING LIFE OWNED ONLY BY CHRIST
-- "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was fully God. The Word was with God in the beginning. All things were created by him, and apart from him not one thing was created that has been created.

In him was life [zōḗ], and the life was the light of mankind." -- John 1:1-4

-- "For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has given to the Son to have life within Himself" -- John 5:26

EVERLASTING LIFE GIVEN IN CHRIST ALONE
-- "And this is the record, that God has given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that has the Son has life; and he that has not the Son of God has not life." -- 1 John 5:11-12.

RIGHTEOUSNESS OWNED ONLY BY CHRIST
-- "My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous One. -- 1 John 2:1

RIGHTEOUSNESS GIVEN ONLY IN CHRIST
-- "And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death. -- Philippians 3:9-10

RESURRECTION OWNED ONLY BY CHRIST
-- "I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:" -- John 11:25

-- "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." -- John 14:6

RESURRECTION GIVEN IN CHRIST ALONE
-- "But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming." -- 1 Corinthians 15:20-23

IMMORTALITY OWNED ONLY BY CHRIST
-- "He (Christ) alone possesses immortality and lives in unapproachable light, whom no human has ever seen or is able to see. To him be honor and eternal power! Amen." -- 1 Timothy 6:15-16

IMMORTALITY GIVEN IN CHRIST ALONE
-- "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory." -- 1 Corinthians 15:52-54.

The difference between immortality and eternal life owned and immortality and eternal life given in Christ (who alone possesses eternal life and immortality in Himself), is as profound as the difference between the CreaTOR (God) who alone possesses eternal life in Himself, and the creaTED.

CORRUPTION / DECAY
-- "The creation itself shall also be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God." -- Romans 8:21.

Both Genesis 2:7 and John 3:8 speak of the Spirit of God breathing His (eternal) life into man, and God alone has life in Himself. It follows that eternal zōḗ (eternal life), as well as immortality is in Christ alone, who alone possesses immortality according to the scriptures, and who alone has life in Himself, according to the scriptures. (1 Timothy 6:16; John 5:26).

"Of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, you shall not eat of it: for in the day that you eat thereof dying you will die." -- Genesis 2:17.

"And the serpent said to the woman, 'You shall not surely die.'" -- Genesis 3:4.

We are justified because of Christ's blood shed for our sins.
We receive eternal life in Christ because Christ has life in Himself.
We will be resurrected at the last day because we are resurrected by the power of Christ's resurrection.
We will be immortal because of Christ's immortality, who alone possesses immortality, our dead bodies quickened by the Spirit of Christ.

Christ is the last Adam. There has been and will be no immortality 'created' for billions of created humans. The only immortality is the immortality of the last Adam, which He EARNED (just as is the case with the resurrection of the dead).

-- "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in gehenna." -- Matthew 10:28.

-- "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death." -- Revelation 20:14-15.

The creTED person IS NOT EVER GOING TO BE IMMORTAL IN HIMSELF. There will be no second sacrifice for sins and no second resurrection from the second death.

The words "You will not surely die" was a direct contradiction to what God had said, and the assertion of the serpent implied that God's words were a lie.
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The only immortal who cannot perish in the second death, is Christ, the last Adam. In Him is life.

"If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered. And they gather and cast them into the fire, and they are burned." -- John 15:6-7.

Those who refused to worship the image of the beast are the only saints promised in scripture that the 2nd death will have no power over them.​

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

During the thousand year reign of Christ the earth is to be repopulated by those who are left.

Why can't the few who survive be those who are alive and remain (are left) that Paul references in 1 Thess 4:14-17? Why does it have to be mortal unbelievers? Who exactly are these mortal unbelievers that you believe will survive Christ's return?

2 Thessalonians 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; 10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

Passages like this one indicate that Jesus will be destroying "them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:". These are the ones who will experience unexpected "sudden destruction" from which "they shall not escape" when He comes like a thief in the night (1 Thess 5:2-3).

Will these mortal unbelievers who you believe will survive Christ's return not fit the description of being "them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ"?

What do you think that Paul meant when he said in 1 Thess 5:3 "they shall not escape"? Do you think he actually meant that most of them will not escape, but some will?

What about Matthew 25:31-46? Do you see a third group besides the sheep and goats of mortal unbelieving survivors of Christ's return who are allowed to continue living on the earth? Why would they not be among the goats/cursed who will be cast into "everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels" (Matthew 25:41) at that point? What makes them different from those unbelievers?

We know this because after the thousand year reign Satan is once again loosed to deceive the nations, and gather them to battle against the saints. The number of which is shown in Revelation 20:8 as "the sand of the sea" in number.

So Yes, there will be some people left on earth after the cleansing by fire. We know this by the words of God; just as Jesus said except those days are shortened "no flesh" would survive.” This indicates that some who are still of the flesh will survive.

We are told in 2 Peter 3:7-13 “But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat.
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness."

The Lord said He would make man rare in number on earth, like the finest of gold. And He also said a "few men" shall be left.

Can you show how exactly any mortals could survive what is described in 2 Peter 3:7 and 2 Peter 3:10-12?

Isaiah 24:6
Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and "few men" left.

Jesus said that many are called, but few are chosen (Matthew 22:14). Why can't the "few men" left be those who are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord (1 Thess 4:14-17) who are saved/chosen?

Notice people will still be "sinning and dying" after the new heavens an new earth....

Isaiah 65:17-25 “For, behold, I create "new heavens and a new earth": and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.
19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child "shall die"an hundred years old; but "the sinner"being an hundred years old shall be accursed.

21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of
a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
23 They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the Lord, and their offspring with them.
24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord."

Many believe the above verses from Isaiah are speaking of after the millennial reign of Christ on earth because it speaks of new heavens and a new earth. But notice in verse 20 above there are people who are still "dying and sinning". This cannot be the saints who are of the "first resurrection" because we are told the second death has no power over them.(Rev. 20:6)

Isaiah 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind. 18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy. 19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying. 20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.

If Isaiah 65:20 was meant to be interpreted literally to indicate that people would die in the new heavens and new earth then does that mean people would no longer mourn the deaths of friends and loved ones during that time? Verse 19 specifically says "the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying? I can't imagine people no longer mourning the death of loved ones, so how does your interpretation of Isaiah 65:20 line up with the previous verse?

Also, do you think John was wrong when he indicated that the ushering in of the new heavens and new earth would result in "no more death" (Revelation 21:4)? And what was the point Peter was making in 2 Peter 3:13 when he said we are looking for new heavens and a new earth where righteousness dwells if wickedness will also dwell there?

It all makes perfect sense when you put all the pieces together. Peace and God bless.

I don't believe your interpretation of these things makes sense at all because it leads to contradictions. Your interpretation of Isaiah 65:17-25 contradicts what is said about the new heavens and new earth in 2 Peter 3:13 and Revelation 21:1-4. Your interpretation of Isaiah 65:20 contradicts what it says in Isaiah 65:19. Your contention that there will be few mortal survivors of Christ's return contradicts passages like Matthew 24:35-39, Luke 17:26-37, Luke 21:33-36, 1 Thess 5:2-3, 2 Thess 1:7-10, 2 Peter 3:10 and Revelation 19:17-18. You would need to be able to address all these questions and points in a convincing way in order to be able to make the claim that what you're saying "all makes perfect sense".

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

Can you show how exactly any mortals could survive what is described in 2 Peter 3:7 and 2 Peter 3:10-12?


Jesus said that many are called, but few are chosen (Matthew 22:14). Why can't the "few men" left be those who are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord (1 Thess 4:14-17) who are saved/chosen?


Isaiah 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind. 18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy. 19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying. 20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.

If Isaiah 65:20 was meant to be interpreted literally to indicate that people would die in the new heavens and new earth then does that mean people would no longer mourn the deaths of friends and loved ones during that time? Verse 19 specifically says "the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying? I can't imagine people no longer mourning the death of loved ones, so how does your interpretation of Isaiah 65:20 line up with the previous verse?

Also, do you think John was wrong when he indicated that the ushering in of the new heavens and new earth would result in "no more death" (Revelation 21:4)? And what was the point Peter was making in 2 Peter 3:13 when he said we are looking for new heavens and a new earth where righteousness dwells if wickedness will also dwell there?


I don't believe your interpretation of these things makes sense at all because it leads to contradictions. Your interpretation of Isaiah 65:17-25 contradicts what is said about the new heavens and new earth in 2 Peter 3:13 and Revelation 21:1-4. Your interpretation of Isaiah 65:20 contradicts what it says in Isaiah 65:19. Your contention that there will be few mortal survivors of Christ's return contradicts passages like Matthew 24:35-39, Luke 17:26-37, Luke 21:33-36, 1 Thess 5:2-3, 2 Thess 1:7-10, 2 Peter 3:10 and Revelation 19:17-18. You would need to be able to address all these questions and points in a convincing way in order to be able to make the claim that what you're saying "all makes perfect sense".

It’s not what YOU think it should be, but it is as God has declared it to be.

Isaiah 24:6
Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

It’s not what YOU think it should be, but it is as God has declared it to be.

Isaiah 24:6
Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.

Weak response, as usual. You come here acting like you know it all, but any time your opinions are challenged, you just respond weakly like this instead of addressing the points that are made.

Why are you scared to address anything I said in my post? Do you expect to be taken seriously when you clearly insist on ignoring all the scriptures that I use to support my view? Am I denying that there will be few survivors of Christ's second coming? No. But, I am saying it is those who are alive and remain until His coming who will be the few left. And you can't even be bothered to address that. Why are you even here if you're not willing to address any challenges to your claims? Ridiculous.

You can't even answer a simple question about who these few mortal survivors would be exactly and how they would be different than those described in verses like 2 Thess 1:7-9 which indicates that He will be destroying those who don't know God and don't obey the gospel when He returns. So, can you at least answer that question? What is it about them that will allow them to survive Christ's wrath when He comes?

 

[WPM]

During the thousand year reign of Christ the earth is to be repopulated by those who are left. We know this because after the thousand year reign Satan is once again loosed to deceive the nations, and gather them to battle against the saints. The number of which is shown in Revelation 20:8 as "the sand of the sea" in number.

So Yes, there will be some people left on earth after the cleansing by fire. We know this by the words of God; just as Jesus said except those days are shortened "no flesh" would survive.” This indicates that some who are still of the flesh will survive.

We are told in 2 Peter 3:7-13 “But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat.
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness."

The Lord said He would make man rare in number on earth, like the finest of gold. And He also said a "few men" shall be left.

Isaiah 24:6
Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and "few men" left.

Notice people will still be "sinning and dying" after the new heavens an new earth....

Isaiah 65:17-25 “For, behold, I create "new heavens and a new earth": and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.
19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child "shall die"an hundred years old; but "the sinner"being an hundred years old shall be accursed.

21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of
a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
23 They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the Lord, and their offspring with them.
24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord."

Many believe the above verses from Isaiah are speaking of after the millennial reign of Christ on earth because it speaks of new heavens and a new earth. But notice in verse 20 above there are people who are still "dying and sinning". This cannot be the saints who are of the "first resurrection" because we are told the second death has no power over them.(Rev. 20:6) Also, if people are still "dying" it means the last enemy (which is death) has not been destroyed yet, as shown here....

1 Corinthians 15:26
The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
Revelation 20:14
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

So we can only conclude that the passages above from Isaiah 65 are during the millennial reign of Christ on earth. We also see prior to death being destroyed Satan is loosed again and goes out and deceives "the nations"....


Revelation 20:7-8 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to "deceive the nations" which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea."

These revived nations are shown here in Daniel 7:12 "As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for "a season and a time"." (= a thousand years)

In order for there to be "nations" as the number of the sand of the sea, there has to be those who are of "the flesh" that survive the cleansing of fire mentioned by Peter. And these survivors are the ones who can still sin and die during the millennial reign of Christ on earth. These survivors are also the ones who will repopulate the earth during this time. And they are the ones who will be "deceived" when Satan is let loose after the thousand years. So you will have mortals and immortals on the earth at the same time.

It all makes perfect sense when you put all the pieces together. Peace and God bless.

Isaiah 65:17-25 is speaking about the NHNE, this comes after the millennium. Do you believe in 2 NHNEs?

 

[WPM]

It’s not what YOU think it should be, but it is as God has declared it to be.

Isaiah 24:6
Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.

Isaiah 24:1-7 tells us: “Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof. And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the servant, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with the buyer, so with the seller; as with the lender, so with the borrower; as with the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken this word. The earth mourneth and fadeth away, the world languisheth and fadeth away, the haughty people of the earth do languish. The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant. Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left. The new wine mourneth, the vine languisheth, all the merry hearted do sigh.”

This passage is identifying the awful consequences of the fall and its effect upon creation. Creation and the creature are inextricably tied together on this matter. As such, we should expect the earth to gradually deteriorate in tandem with the degeneration of man. After all, Scripture makes clear that men are going to progressively get worst, not better. We see that reflected in the decaying of the earth like a worn-out overcoat that will soon need replacement.

Premils insist that the “few men” left are unbelievers. But this is definitely not what the text is insinuating. Quite the opposite. It is wicked that are punished and the righteous that are rescued, changed and equipped to populate the new perfect environment.

It would seem sensible to understand the phrase "few men left" here as referring to the elect that are rescued from this destruction. Dr. teachers that there are many are on the broad road; the few are on the narrow road. When the inhabitants of this world are judged, and when the regenerated earth is repopulated, there will indeed be “few men left” (Isaiah 24:6).

Jesus said in Matthew 7:13-14, “Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.”

Christians today have made the narrow road the broad road and the broad road the narrow road. They preach their messages in such a compromised manner that you would believe: “crooked is the gate, and broad is the way, which leadeth unto life, and many there be that find it.” There are two different peoples in this life, walking two different roads, in two different directions, to two different destinations. The Christian is bound for heaven; the sinner is bound for hell.

In Luke 13:23-28, we see Christ responding to an important question from the disciples, who asked, “Lord, are there few that be saved?”

Whereupon the Lord replies, “Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

The saddest reality in this Book is that the majority of people go to hell, the minority inherit the new earth.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

Weak response, as usual. You come here acting like you know it all, but any time your opinions are challenged, you just respond weakly like this instead of addressing the points that are made.

Why are you scared to address anything I said in my post? Do you expect to be taken seriously when you clearly insist on ignoring all the scriptures that I use to support my view? Am I denying that there will be few survivors of Christ's second coming? No. But, I am saying it is those who are alive and remain until His coming who will be the few left. And you can't even be bothered to address that. Why are you even here if you're not willing to address any challenges to your claims? Ridiculous.

You can't even answer a simple question about who these few mortal survivors would be exactly and how they would be different than those described in verses like 2 Thess 1:7-9 which indicates that He will be destroying those who don't know God and don't obey the gospel when He returns. So, can you at least answer that question? What is it about them that will allow them to survive Christ's wrath when He comes?

It is enough to destroy YOUR theory.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

Isaiah 65:17-25 is speaking about the NHNE, this comes after the millennium. Do you believe in 2 NHNEs?

Notice people will still be "sinning and dying" after the new heavens an new earth....

Isaiah 65:17-25 “For, behold, I create "new heavens and a new earth": and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.
19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child "shall die"an hundred years old; but "the sinner"being an hundred years old shall be accursed.

21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of
a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
23 They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the Lord, and their offspring with them.
24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord."

Many believe the above verses from Isaiah are speaking of after the millennial reign of Christ on earth because it speaks of new heavens and a new earth. But notice in verse 20 above there are people who are still "dying and sinning". This cannot be the saints who are of the "first resurrection" because we are told the second death has no power over them.(Rev. 20:6) Also, if people are still "dying" it means the last enemy (which is death) has not been destroyed yet, as shown here....

1 Corinthians 15:26
The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
Revelation 20:14
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

It is enough to destroy YOUR theory.

One verse? LOL. Hardly. You obviously are not prepared to defend your doctrine if that's all you have. Show me where it says those who survive are mortal unbelievers. You can't even tell me why any mortal unbeliever would be allowed to survive His return despite scripture telling us He will take vengeance on those who don't know God and don't obey the gospel when He returns (2 Thess 1:7-9). Except for a few somehow. But, you won't even bother explaining what it is about these few unbelievers who will supposedly survive that would allow them to survive. That's too much trouble for you to explain, apparently. I guess you have no interest in being taken seriously then.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Notice people will still be "sinning and dying" after the new heavens an new earth....

Isaiah 65:17-25 “For, behold, I create "new heavens and a new earth": and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.
19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child "shall die"an hundred years old; but "the sinner"being an hundred years old shall be accursed.

21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of
a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
23 They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the Lord, and their offspring with them.
24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord."

Notice in verse 19 it says "the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying". So, you expect us to believe that people will die at that point, but no one will mourn their deaths. You expect that to be taken seriously, do you? Why would no one mourn anyone's death anymore at that point? How does that make any sense? The only way to make sense of it is to understand that Isaiah was describing eternity in a way that people back then could grasp. Remember, this was OT times when people didn't really have any concept of eternity yet. So, Isaiah accounted for that.

And, you don't care that your interpretation of the new heavens and new earth from Isaiah 65:17-25 contradicts John's description of the new heavens and new earth in Revelation 21:1-4? That's just something that isn't important to you that you have scripture contradicting itself?

Should the following verse be changed?

2 Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

In your view, the new heavens and new earth will be a place where righteousness AND wickedness dwell. So, why did Peter only say that righteousness dwells there? Looks like he must have interpreted Isaiah 65:17-25 differently than you as did John, based on what he said about the new heavens and new earth in Revelation 21:1-4.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Isaiah 24:1-7 tells us: “Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof. And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the servant, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with the buyer, so with the seller; as with the lender, so with the borrower; as with the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken this word. The earth mourneth and fadeth away, the world languisheth and fadeth away, the haughty people of the earth do languish. The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant. Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left. The new wine mourneth, the vine languisheth, all the merry hearted do sigh.”

This passage is identifying the awful consequences of the fall and its effect upon creation. Creation and the creature are inextricably tied together on this matter. As such, we should expect the earth to gradually deteriorate in tandem with the degeneration of man. After all, Scripture makes clear that men are going to progressively get worst, not better. We see that reflected in the decaying of the earth like a worn-out overcoat that will soon need replacement.

Premils insist that the “few men” left are unbelievers. But this is definitely not what the text is insinuating. Quite the opposite. It is wicked that are punished and the righteous that are rescued, changed and equipped to populate the new perfect environment.

It would seem sensible to understand the phrase "few men left" here as referring to the elect that are rescued from this destruction. Dr. teachers that there are many are on the broad road; the few are on the narrow road. When the inhabitants of this world are judged, and when the regenerated earth is repopulated, there will indeed be “few men left” (Isaiah 24:6).

Jesus said in Matthew 7:13-14, “Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.”

Christians today have made the narrow road the broad road and the broad road the narrow road. They preach their messages in such a compromised manner that you would believe: “crooked is the gate, and broad is the way, which leadeth unto life, and many there be that find it.” There are two different peoples in this life, walking two different roads, in two different directions, to two different destinations. The Christian is bound for heaven; the sinner is bound for hell.

In Luke 13:23-28, we see Christ responding to an important question from the disciples, who asked, “Lord, are there few that be saved?”

Whereupon the Lord replies, “Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

The saddest reality in this Book is that the majority of people go to hell, the minority inherit the new earth.

Amen. I'm asking him what it is about these supposed few mortal unbelievers that he thinks will survive that would allow them to survive, but not the rest of the unbelievers and he won't address that. How can we take that seriously if he can't explain why they would be allowed to survive but not the rest of the unbelievers? I see in 2 Thess 1:7-10 that Jesus will be taking vengeance on those who don't know God and reject the gospel. What unbeliever doesn't fit that description and will be allowed to survive His second coming? It's quite telling when premils like this won't even attempt to answer that question.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

One verse? LOL. Hardly. You obviously are not prepared to defend your doctrine if that's all you have. Show me where it says those who survive are mortal unbelievers.

I posted more than one verse in my OP. And I could produce many more, but you will find a reason NOT to believe them all.

By the way, scripture does not cancel out other scripture. You need to reconcile the scriptures I posted in my OP against YOUR own theory that no one will survive the judgement by fire on earth.

Go ahead and try to prove Gods words are wrong in Isaiah 24:6

The Lord said He would make man rare in number on earth, like the finest of gold. And He also said a "few men" shall be left.

Isaiah 24:6
Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and "few men"left.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

Notice in verse 19 it says "the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying". So, you expect us to believe that people will die at that point, but no one will mourn their deaths. You expect that to be taken seriously, do you? Why would no one mourn anyone's death anymore at that point? How does that make any sense? The only way to make sense of it is to understand that Isaiah was describing eternity in a way that people back then could grasp. Remember, this was OT times when people didn't really have any concept of eternity yet. So, Isaiah accounted for that.

And, you don't care that your interpretation of the new heavens and new earth from Isaiah 65:17-25 contradicts John's description of the new heavens and new earth in Revelation 21:1-4? That's just something that isn't important to you that you have scripture contradicting itself?

Should the following verse be changed?

2 Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

In your view, the new heavens and new earth will be a place where righteousness AND wickedness dwell. So, why did Peter only say that righteousness dwells there? Looks like he must have interpreted Isaiah 65:17-25 differently than you as did John, based on what he said about the new heavens and new earth in Revelation 21:1-4.

Who is that verse talking about?

19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying”

That verse is NOT talking about the Gentile nations who are still sinning and dying during the thousand year reign.

The saints in Jerusalem CANNOT die because they are of the first resurrection. That’s a swing and a miss!

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I posted more than one verse in my OP. And I could produce many more, but you will find a reason NOT to believe them all.

Yes, and I showed how your interpretations of Isaiah 65:17-25 and 2 Peter 3:7-13 can't possibly be accurate and your response to that is silence. You are apparently too afraid to address how your interpretation of Isaiah 65:17-25 contradicts 2 Peter 3:13 and Revelation 21:1-4. You are apparently too afraid to address how your interpretation of Isaiah 65:19-20 means that you think no one will mourn over their friends or loved ones deaths during this supposed future earthly millennial kingdom. You are apparently too afraid to address that 2 Peter 3:7-13 does not allow for any mortal survivors of Christ's second coming.

By the way, scripture does not cancel out other scripture. You need to reconcile the scriptures I posted in my OP against YOUR own theory that no one will survive the judgement by fire on earth.

I am doing that and you are not responding to it. You are the one not reconciling the contradictions in your own interpretations. Please do so if you want to be taken seriously.

Go ahead and try to prove Gods words are wrong in Isaiah 24:6

The Lord said He would make man rare in number on earth, like the finest of gold. And He also said a "few men" shall be left.

Isaiah 24:6
Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and "few men"left.

LOL. Why would I want to prove God's words wrong when I believe all of God's words are correct? Why stoop to this level of ridiculous childishness? I have addressed this verse, but you haven't addressed what I said about it. Why not? And you have nothing to refute what WPM said about it, either. Show me where that says the few men left refer to mortal unbelievers? For goodness sakes, back up your claims.

And please tell me what it is about these supposed mortal unbelieving survivors that would allow them to survive? What is different about them compared to the unbelievers who will be destroyed at that point when Christ returns? You need to stop being afraid to address this if you want to be taken seriously.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Who is that verse talking about?

19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying”

That verse is NOT talking about the Gentile nations who are still sinning and dying during the thousand year reign.

The saints in Jerusalem CANNOT die because they are of the first resurrection. That’s a swing and a miss!

You just make scripture say what you want it to say. Where does it say that Isaiah 65:20 doesn't apply to Jerusalem?

Also, why do you interpret Isaiah 65:17-25 in such a way that contradicts Revelation 21:1-4 which says there will be no more death when the new heavens and new earth are ushered in? There aren't going to be two separate new heavens and new earths. One with death and one without. So, you need to reconcile that with how you are interpreting Isiaah 65:17-25. So, how do you do that?

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

2 Peter 3:7-13 can't possibly be accurate and your response to that is silence. You are apparently too afraid to address how your interpretation of Isaiah 65:17-25 contradicts 2 Peter 3:13 and Revelation 21:1-4. You are apparently too afraid to address how your interpretation of Isaiah 65:19-20 means that you think no one will mourn over their friends or loved ones deaths during this supposed future earthly millennial kingdom. You are apparently too afraid to address that 2 Peter 3:7-13 does not allow for any mortal survivors of Christ's second coming.


I am doing that and you are not responding to it. You are the one not reconciling the contradictions in your own interpretations. Please do so if you want to be taken seriously.


LOL. Why would I want to prove God's words wrong when I believe all of God's words are correct? Why stoop to this level of ridiculous childishness? I have addressed this verse, but you haven't addressed what I said about it. Why not? And you have nothing to refute what WPM said about it, either. Show me where that says the few men left refer to mortal unbelievers? For goodness sakes, back up your claims.

And please tell me what it is about these supposed mortal unbelieving survivors that would allow them to survive? What is different about them compared to the unbelievers who will be destroyed at that point when Christ returns? You need to stop being afraid to address this if you want to be taken seriously.

2 Peter 3:7-13 does not say there are no survivors, that would contradict
Isaiah 24:6
Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and "few men"left.

Again you are ASSUMING there are no survivors left, BUT Isaiah 24:6 proves YOUR assumption is WRONG!

That’s another swing and a miss!

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

You just make scripture say what you want it to say. Where does it say that Isaiah 65:20 doesn't apply to Jerusalem?

Also, why do you interpret Isaiah 65:17-25 in such a way that contradicts Revelation 21:1-4 which says there will be no more death when the new heavens and new earth are ushered in? There aren't going to be two separate new heavens and new earths. One with death and one without. So, you need to reconcile that with how you are interpreting Isiaah 65:17-25. So, how do you do that?

You are the one who is trying to make it contradict because it does not align with your false doctrine.

The saints who are of the first resurrection CANNOT die! So those who are still sinning and dying are NOT the immortal saints at Jerusalem. They are of the remnant of the Gentile Nations that are still present on earth during the thousand year reign.

Death is not put away until AFTER the thousand years is complete. All the scriptures agree. It is YOU who does not agree with the words of God.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

You are the one who is trying to make it contradict because it does not align with your false doctrine.

LOL. I'm trying to reconcile it while you make the passages contradict each other. You can't have one new earth with sin and death occurrong in ot and one without sin and death occurring on it. John is very clear that when the new heavens and new earth are ushered in "there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.".

The former things will be passed away when the new heavens and new earth are ushered in. Just like Isaiah said as well.

Isaiah 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

But, somehow you differentiate between Isaiah 65:17-25 and Revelation 21:1-4. Why? You have them contradicting each other. And you don't even care! You only care about making scripture say what you want it to say instead.

The saints who are of the first resurrection CANNOT die!

Of course. Who said otherwise? But, nowhere does Isaiah 65:20 indicate that it's only talking about Gentiles. You are making that up. You are missing that it is figuratively describing eternity there in a way people back then could understand. They didn't have a concept of eternity in OT times like we've had in NT times, so Isaiah accounted for that.

So those who are still sinning and dying are NOT the immortal saints at Jerusalem. They are of the remnant of the Gentile Nations that are still present on earth during the thousand year reign.

Death is not put away until AFTER the thousand years is complete. All the scriptures agree. It is YOU who does not agree with the words of God.

LOL. I believe that death is not put away until AFTER the thousand years is complete as well. You saying that as if I would disagree with that shows that you still don't even understand what Amils believe. You're trying to refute something you don't even understand! That's ridiculous and can't be done. So, don't tell me I'm not agreeing with the words of God. I agree with them completely. I disagree with YOU and YOUR interpretations of the words of God. You still have done NOTHING to reconcile Isaiah 65:17-25 and Revelation 21:1-4 together. I have. When do you plan on doing that? Or do you plan on continuing to make Isaiah 65:17-25 contradict Revelation 21:1-4?

The new earth obviously can't both have sin and death on it and have no more death on it. So, which is true about the new heavens and new earth? I've made up my mind about that. How about you? You better make up your mind because it's unacceptable to set scripture against itself the way you're doing with Isaiah 65:17-25 and Revelation 21:1-4.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

2 Peter 3:7-13 does not say there are no survivors, that would contradict
Isaiah 24:6
Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and "few men"left.

Again you are ASSUMING there are no survivors left, BUT Isaiah 24:6 proves YOUR assumption is WRONG!

That’s another swing and a miss!

LOL. How in the world can any mortals survive the burning up of the earth? Why do you interpret 2 Peter 3:7-13 based on Isaiah 24:6 instead of the other way around? Don't you know that the NT shines light on the OT prophecies for us? Clearly, 2 Peter 3:7-13 has the entire earth being burned up, or else Peter wouldn't say in verse 13, "Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.". In other words he's saying despite the heavens and the new earth being burned up, we still look forward to a new heavens and a new earth where righteousness dwells. The heavens and the earth will not be annihilated, but rather will be dissolved and renewed (made completely new) resulting in the new heavens and new earth.

Why do you not even address my belief that the "few men left" refer to those who are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord? Why can't it refer to that? Are you afraid to address that question? You're always trying to avoid any challenges to your view. You're very cowardly in that way. Trying to get you to address my points is like pulling teeth. If you're going to come here and make claims the way you do then you need to be able to back them up if you want to be taken seriously.