2nd Peter 3:10

[Davy]

I was just wondering what people think. Scientific studies indicate that this is going to happen. According to their studies if it happens, it's building up to that instant.

The way I read what you explained was that they suggested a 'gradual' matter, like it had already started. That idea still does not align with God's Word.

Study the Old Testament prophets about the events of the "day of the Lord". The only areas in the New Testament that points to it is with Apostle Paul in 1 Thess.5 about the "sudden destruction", and the end of Hebrews 12 about God's consuming fire, and the 2 Peter 3 example of God's consuming fire.

In the prophets, God revealed that consuming fire event, the "sudden destruction", will be a surprise upon the world, happening at an instant. This is why Apostle Paul referred to the event as being "sudden" in 1 Thess.5. It is also linked with what Paul taught in 1 Corinthians 15 with the 'change' "at the twinkling of an eye" on the "last trump".

Thus a gradual... warming, simply will not fit that coming 'surprise' to happen upon the whole world at an instant.

 

[Mark51]

Could this be the fulfilling of the prophecy and of 2nd Peter 3:10? According to a scientific study there is a possibility within a hundred years ago the earth could start transforming into a planet like Venus. The question is how long will it take a few hundred years or a billion?

Earth could become an uninhabitable HELL, study shows Earth could become an uninhabitable HELL, study shows

The term “heavens,” often symbolically refers to ruling powers, which are elevated above their subjects. (Isaiah 65:17; Revelation 21:1, 2) “The heavens [that] will pass away” represent human rule over ungodly society. Their passing away with a loud “hissing noise” may indicate the swift annihilation of these heavens. Compare with Isaiah 14:13, 14: This is referring to Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon.

The “earth” represents the world of mankind alienated from God. Such a world existed in Noah’s day and, by divine decree, ended with the Flood. “By the same word the heavens and the earth that are now are stored up for fire and are being reserved to the Day of Judgment and of destruction of the ungodly men.” (2 Peter 3:7) Whereas the Flood destroyed the ungodly all at one time, the coming destruction will occur in stages during “the great tribulation.” (Revelation 7:14) In the first phase of that tribulation, God will move the political rulers of this world to destroy “Babylon the Great,” (World Empire of false Religion) thus showing his contempt for that religious harlot. (Revelation 17:5, 6, 16-18) Then, in the war of Armageddon, the final phase of the great tribulation, Jehovah himself will wipe out the rest of Satan’s world.-Revelation 16:14, 16; 19:19-21.

A contrary view is in I conflict with the words of Jesus Christ, who said: “Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth.” (Matthew 5:5; 6:10; Psalm 379, 11, 22, 29, 34) Consider these other supporting scriptures: Genesis 8:21, 22; Psalms 78:69; 104:5, 115:16; Isaiah 45:18; Proverbs 2:21, 22; Ecclesiastes 1:4.

 

[strepho]

2 Peter chapter 3:12

Coming day of the Lord.

Jesus returns 7th trump to Jerusalem. Zechariah chapter 14 to document it .

Jesus will establish new temple in Jerusalem. Old temple will be turned into sand.
Documentation, Ezekiel chapter 40 to 48 is about the Millennium.
Revelation chapter 11.
Temple is set for destruction. Because, son of perdition, satan, polluted the sanctuary, temple, at the 6th trump. He came as antichrist.

Jesus will set up His kingdom at 7th trump. New temple, Jerusalem.

Revelation chapter 21.

God head arrives after judgement day. This is paradise. The eternity. All wicked people, and satan went into lake of fire on judgement day.

Easy to understand.

Those who repent, and love and serve God are in the eternity.

Peace.

 

[TribulationSigns]

Easy to understand.

No, it does not. It requires spirit of Christ to understand spiritual things. Not superficial reading into Scripture thinking God is talking about literal temple, etc.

2 Peter chapter 3:12

Coming day of the Lord.

Jesus returns 7th trump to Jerusalem.

Correct, Christ will return at the last trump (7th Trumpet) on the LAST DAY. Not 7 year prior.

Zechariah chapter 14 to document it .

Zechariah 14 was not talking about 70AD or future Armageddon. It talks about Christ's first coming to establish His kingdom through the church (This is what Feast of the Tablerance is about) after Old Testament Israel fell at the Cross.

Jesus will establish new temple in Jerusalem.

Christ already established his kingdom through the Church which now represents Jersualem on this side of the Cross. And we are the temple where Christ lives. There won't be a literal Jewish temple again in the future.

Ezekiel chapter 40 to 48 is about the Millennium.

Millennial Kingdom through the Church... right now since the Cross (again refers to the Feast of the Tablerance article above).

Revelation chapter 11.

Revelation 11 is about CHURCH as the Two Witnesses. Not two men with supernatural power from the past in national Israel.

Temple is set for destruction.

Well the New Testament temple is the church and yes, the church will fall into apostasy and desolation prior to the Second Coming of Christ.

Because, son of perdition, satan, polluted the sanctuary, temple, at the 6th trump. He came as antichrist.

You are confusing this with one evil man who will some day sit in a literal temple in Israel . False! Satan will work through men (the false prophets and christs) IN THE CHURCH (Temple) where Satan will rule over them.

Jesus will set up His kingdom at 7th trump. New temple, Jerusalem.

Again, Christ already set up His Kingdom through the Church as New Testament representative of the congregation of Israel which will be realized at the Second Coming.

Revelation chapter 21.

God head arrives after judgement day. This is paradise. The eternity. All wicked people, and satan went into lake of fire on judgement day.

Indeed... on the last day when the Last Trump sound. There will be no "7 literal years great tribulation or 1,000 literal years millennial kingdom after this. After the judgment, comes eternity.

 

[strepho]

No, it does not. It requires spirit of Christ to understand spiritual things. Not superficial reading into Scripture thinking God is talking about literal temple, etc.


Correct, Christ will return at the last trump (7th Trumpet) on the LAST DAY. Not 7 year prior.



Zechariah 14 was not talking about 70AD or future Armageddon. It talks about Christ's first coming to establish His kingdom through the church (This is what Feast of the Tablerance is about) after Old Testament Israel fell at the Cross.


Christ already established his kingdom through the Church which now represents Jersualem on this side of the Cross. And we are the temple where Christ lives. There won't be a literal Jewish temple again in the future.



Millennial Kingdom through the Church... right now since the Cross (again refers to the Feast of the Tablerance article above).



Revelation 11 is about CHURCH as the Two Witnesses. Not two men with supernatural power from the past in national Israel.



Well the New Testament temple is the church and yes, the church will fall into apostasy and desolation prior to the Second Coming of Christ.



You are confusing this with one evil man who will some day sit in a literal temple in Israel . False! Satan will work through men (the false prophets and christs) IN THE CHURCH (Temple) where Satan will rule over them.


Again, Christ already set up His Kingdom through the Church as New Testament representative of the congregation of Israel which will be realized at the Second Coming.



Indeed... on the last day when the Last Trump sound. There will be no "7 literal years great tribulation or 1,000 literal years millennial kingdom after this. After the judgment, comes eternity.

Yes you need holy spirit to understand meat of God's word, Corinthians chapter 2.
I'm planting seeds for God. Mabey God will germinate it, and give spirtual sight. My job is to plant seeds.

Back to revelation chapter 11.
Yes the two witnesses will testify two and half months. Antichrist has same time. Its 5 month period, in two segments.

That temple is marked for destruction. Because satan as antichrist will polluted it. Jesus returns 7th trump, and will establish new temple. In Jerusalem.

Read Ezekiel chapter 40 to 48.

It's about the millennium temple, and priests duties. The millennium is time of teaching and discipline for the spirtualty dead.

I know what I'm talking about.
I studied under pastor Arnold murray and dennis murray, shepherds chapel, for 20 years.

Your not trained properly. I'm being respectful.

Jeremiah chapter 3:
And I will give you shepherds according to My own heart, who will feed with knowledge and understanding.

Matthew chapter 24.
I say unto you, not one stone shall be left upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

Wailing wall is still in Jerusalem. At 7th trump. Temple, and walls will be dust at Jesus return.

Jesus will have new temple.

Zechariah chapter 14

Is about the millennium.

I taught Gods word correctly.

Again. Servants of God are to plant seeds for God. Whether the person understands or doesn't.

Jesus wants those seeds planted.

During millennium, the spirituality dead might act or accept those seeds from the flesh age.

Its written in Psalms

You shall speak to your enemies at the gate.

We're not tio question Jesus about why need to plant seeds. Body of christ does it job.

It's up to Jesus if there's spirit of stupor or if they get holy spirit.

Peace.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Yes you need holy spirit to understand meat of God's word, Corinthians chapter 2.
I'm planting seeds for God. Mabey God will germinate it, and give spirtual sight. My job is to plant seeds.

Back to revelation chapter 11.
Yes the two witnesses will testify two and half months. Antichrist has same time. Its 5 month period, in two segments.

That temple is marked for destruction. Because satan as antichrist will polluted it. Jesus returns 7th trump, and will establish new temple. In Jerusalem.

Read Ezekiel chapter 40 to 48.

It's about the millennium temple, and priests duties. The millennium is time of teaching and discipline for the spirtualty dead.

I know what I'm talking about.
I studied under pastor Arnold murray and dennis murray, shepherds chapel, for 20 years.

Your not trained properly. I'm being respectful.

Jeremiah chapter 3:
And I will give you shepherds according to My own heart, who will feed with knowledge and understanding.

Matthew chapter 24.
I say unto you, not one stone shall be left upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

Wailing wall is still in Jerusalem. At 7th trump. Temple, and walls will be dust at Jesus return.

Jesus will have new temple.

Zechariah chapter 14

Is about the millennium.

I taught Gods word correctly.

Again. Servants of God are to plant seeds for God. Whether the person understands or doesn't.

Jesus wants those seeds planted.

During millennium, the spirituality dead might act or accept those seeds from the flesh age.

Its written in Psalms

You shall speak to your enemies at the gate.

We're not tio question Jesus about why need to plant seeds. Body of christ does it job.

It's up to Jesus if there's spirit of stupor or if they get holy spirit.

Peace.

Hello, friend. You have a few good insights that you've shared, but I have to tell you that you are mistaken about a future earthly temple and kingdom being set up when Christ returns. Scripture simply does not teach that. It teaches that we (believers) will be changed to have immortal bodies and caught up to Christ when He returns and it also repeatedly teaches that He will destroy all unbelievers when He returns (Matthew 24:35-39, Luke 17:26-37, 1 Thess 5:2-3, 2 Thess 1:7-10, 2 Peter 3:3-13, Revelation 19:11-21, Revelation 20:9). That does not leave any mortals to populate the earth when He returns. Please think about this and think about the fact that Jesus reigns now, as taught in passages like Matthew 28:16-18, Ephesians 1:19-23, Colossians 1:12-13 and Revelation 1:5-6.

Also, you have mentioned the seventh trumpet and that Jesus will return at that time and I agree. I even agree that we're in the fifth trumpet time now, as you have indicated. But, in relation to the sounding of the seventh trumpet, it indicates that a number of things will become true and will happen when it sounds such as the mystery of God being finished (Rev 10:7) and it signaling that "the time of the dead that they will be judged" has come.

Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. 16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, 17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. 18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

When, in relation to the thousand years, will the dead be judged? After the thousand years (and Satan's little season), right? John indicated that the time for the dead to be judged (and saints rewarded) will be at the seventh trumpet when Jesus returns. Since the dead will be judged AFTER the thousand years, then that places the timing of the seventh trumpet and Christ's return AFTER the thousand years. That the day of judgment takes place when Jesus returns is explicitly taught in Matthew 25:31-46.

But, don't take my word for this. Be like the Bereans and study this for yourself (Acts 17:10-11) while asking God to show you through His Holy Spirit if what I'm telling you is true.

 

[strepho]

Hello, friend. You have a few good insights that you've shared, but I have to tell you that you are mistaken about a future earthly temple and kingdom being set up when Christ returns. Scripture simply does not teach that. It teaches that we (believers) will be changed to have immortal bodies and caught up to Christ when He returns and it also repeatedly teaches that He will destroy all unbelievers when He returns (Matthew 24:35-39, Luke 17:26-37, 1 Thess 5:2-3, 2 Thess 1:7-10, 2 Peter 3:3-13, Revelation 19:11-21, Revelation 20:9). That does not leave any mortals to populate the earth when He returns. Please think about this and think about the fact that Jesus reigns now, as taught in passages like Matthew 28:16-18, Ephesians 1:19-23, Colossians 1:12-13 and Revelation 1:5-6.

Also, you have mentioned the seventh trumpet and that Jesus will return at that time and I agree. I even agree that we're in the fifth trumpet time now, as you have indicated. But, in relation to the sounding of the seventh trumpet, it indicates that a number of things will become true and will happen when it sounds such as the mystery of God being finished (Rev 10:7) and it signaling that "the time of the dead that they will be judged" has come.

Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. 16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, 17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. 18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

When, in relation to the thousand years, will the dead be judged? After the thousand years (and Satan's little season), right? John indicated that the time for the dead to be judged (and saints rewarded) will be at the seventh trumpet when Jesus returns. Since the dead will be judged AFTER the thousand years, then that places the timing of the seventh trumpet and Christ's return AFTER the thousand years. That the day of judgment takes place when Jesus returns is explicitly taught in Matthew 25:31-46.

But, don't take my word for this. Be like the Bereans and study this for yourself (Acts 17:10-11) while asking God to show you through His Holy Spirit if what I'm telling you is true.

Sir. Evidently were on different page on about temple. I was trained by pastor Arnold murray, he died in 2012. I agree with him in his documentation and commentary.

Jesus will establish temple at the 7th trump. This starts the millennium.
Documentation
Ezekiel chapter 40 to 48.

I can think for myself. I believe my mentor is correct.
Pastor murray taught sound doctrine.

We disagree. Were still brethren or friends.

Second thessalonians chapter 2

Son of perdition is satan. He comes 6th trump in his role as antichrist. He will pollute the temple, claiming to be messiah.

7th trump, that temple is dust. Jesus will establish his own temple.

The current temple will not exist at the 7th trump.

I moved on to other subjects.

Peace.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Sir. Evidently were on different page on about temple.

Yes, we are. Can you understand the points I made to show why I believe what I do? Can you please address them specifically? Let me know if you need any clarification on anything I said in that post.

I was trained by pastor Arnold murray, he died in 2012. I agree with him in his documentation and commentary.

Jesus will establish temple at the 7th trump. This starts the millennium.

Can you show in the book of Revelation where the description of the seventh trumpet is found, where it says something about Jesus establishing a temple? It certainly is not found within the descriptions of the seventh trumpet in Revelation 10 and 11. So, where can we find that?

Documentation
Ezekiel chapter 40 to 48.

I can think for myself. I believe my mentor is correct.
Pastor murray taught sound doctrine.

Not in this case, unfortunately. In my opinion.

We disagree. Were still brethren or friends.

Absolutely. We can disagree respectfully. Like I said, I do believe you've made a few insightful comments. Like us currently being in the time of the fifth trumpet. I agree with that, though I believe the fifth trumpet is the time when Satan is loosed from the bottomless pit. I believe "Abaddon" is just another name for Satan similar to how Lucifer and Beelzebub are other names for Satan.

Second thessalonians chapter 2

Son of perdition is satan. He comes 6th trump in his role as antichrist. He will pollute the temple, claiming to be messiah.

7th trump, that temple is dust. Jesus will establish his own temple.

The current temple will not exist at the 7th trump.

I moved on to other subjects.

Peace.

If Jesus was going to establish His own temple at the 7th trumpet, why would that not be mentioned anywhere in the book of Revelation including in the description of the 7th trumpet?

Let me remind you that we, the church, are the temple of God now. Jesus has, and never will have, any need for a physical temple.

1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

Ephesians 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; 21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: 22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

 

[honeycomb]

Could this be the fulfilling of the prophecy and of 2nd Peter 3:10? According to a scientific study there is a possibility within a hundred years ago the earth could start transforming into a planet like Venus. The question is how long will it take a few hundred years or a billion?

Earth could become an uninhabitable HELL, study shows Earth could become an uninhabitable HELL, study shows

I believe the King of kings and Lord of lords will return before then. I don’t see anywhere in the Bible that tells us that the earth will turn into an uninhabitable hell.

The 7 seals mentioned in the book of Revelation and also revealed in Mark 13 tell us what will transpire in the latter days and as a certainty, we will have tribulation like we’ve never seen before. Here is what will happen, according to the Word of God:

And Jesus, answering them, began to say: "Take heed that no one deceives you. "For many will come in My name, saying, 'I am He,' and will deceive many. "But when you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be troubled; for such things must happen, but the end is not yet. "For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be earthquakes in various places, and there will be famines and troubles. These are the beginnings of sorrows. "But watch out for yourselves, for they will deliver you up to councils, and you will be beaten in the synagogues. You will be brought before rulers and kings for My sake, for a testimony to them. "And the gospel must first be preached to all the nations. "But when they arrest you and deliver you up, do not worry beforehand, or premeditate what you will speak. But whatever is given you in that hour, speak that; for it is not you who speak, but the Holy Spirit. "Now brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; and children will rise up against parents and cause them to be put to death. "And you will be hated by all for My name's sake. But he who endures to the end shall be saved. "So when you see the 'abomination of desolation,' spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not" (let the reader understand), "then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. "Let him who is on the housetop not go down into the house, nor enter to take anything out of his house. "And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. "But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! "And pray that your flight may not be in winter. "For in those days there will be tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the creation which God created until this time, nor ever shall be. "And unless the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect's sake, whom He chose, He shortened the days. "Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'Look, He is there!' do not believe it. "For false christs and false prophets will rise and show signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. "But take heed; see, I have told you all things beforehand. "But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; "the stars of heaven will fall, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. "Then they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

- Mark 13:5-26
Petra

 

[strepho]

Yes, we are. Can you understand the points I made to show why I believe what I do? Can you please address them specifically? Let me know if you need any clarification on anything I said in that post.


Can you show in the book of Revelation where the description of the seventh trumpet is found, where it says something about Jesus establishing a temple? It certainly is not found within the descriptions of the seventh trumpet in Revelation 10 and 11. So, where can we find that?


Not in this case, unfortunately. In my opinion.


Absolutely. We can disagree respectfully. Like I said, I do believe you've made a few insightful comments. Like us currently being in the time of the fifth trumpet. I agree with that, though I believe the fifth trumpet is the time when Satan is loosed from the bottomless pit. I believe "Abaddon" is just another name for Satan similar to how Lucifer and Beelzebub are other names for Satan.


If Jesus was going to establish His own temple at the 7th trumpet, why would that not be mentioned anywhere in the book of Revelation including in the description of the 7th trumpet?

Let me remind you that we, the church, are the temple of God now. Jesus has, and never will have, any need for a physical temple.

1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

Ephesians 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; 21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: 22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

Hello.
Revelation 1:1
And there was given me a reeed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

This is Rod of destruction. The rod is scepter, and measures for destruction. Not for building.

Why ???

Because satan as antichrist, 6th trump, sat in the temple, claiming to be messiah. It's a abomination
The temple is polluted.
Jesus will turn that temple to dust at the 7th trump.

Jesus is King, and has the scepter.

Jesus will establish His own temple.

Ezekiel chapter 40:48.
NEW TEMPLE.

Jesus will establish new temple at 7th trump.

Ezekiel chapter 40 to 48 is about the new temple and ditties of the priests, during the millennium.

I documented this.

We are tempeh of God. Body of christ.

Sir
Your not comprehensive of Ezekiel chapter 40 to 48.

Clearly. This is bible prophecy for the millennium.

This new temple will be built by Jesus at 7th trump.

Why ???

Because the millennium is time of teaching and discipline for the spirtualty dead.

Those who worshipped antichrist at 6th trump. Have to be discipline and taught by priests during millennium.

Only the priests are allowed in the temple. The spirtualty dead, and heathen are not allowed in the new temple .

The millennium , again, is for spirituality dead. They will be taught God's provisions and ways. They messed up in the flesh age, and have to be taught during millennium.

Revelation is 21.

This marks the eternity. Satan, and all the wicked went into lake of fire at the end of millennium, judgement day.

After judgement day. Godhead arrives with new Jerusalem to earth.

The millennium temple is gone, when Godhesd arrives.

Meaning, the millennium temple was only temporary.

Revelation 21:22

I did not see a temple in the city. Because the Lord Almighty, and the lamb are its temple.

Friends. Back to revelation chapter 11:1

That reed, the scepter, is set for destruction at the 7th trump. Jesus will obliterate that temple, that satan as antichrist polluted.
That scepter is for destruction.

You must understand Ezekiel chapter 40 to 48.

The new temple, for the millennium. Jesus will have Priests during millennium.


Revelation chapter 13.
One world political system receives deadly wound at 5th trump.

Satan as antichrist will come 6th trump. Heal deadly wound, by absorbing nations back in the one world system.

Antichrist leads one world religious system.
Revelation chapter 9
It's 5 month period.


Again. The connection for new temple is revelation chapter 11:1, and Ezekiel chapter 40:48.

Pastor Arnold murray and e w bullinger, both say, revelation chapter 11:1, marks the destruction of that temple at the 7th trump.

That reed is scepter, Jesus is King of Kings. The scepter is for destruction. I already documented, and explained it.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Hello.
Revelation 1:1
And there was given me a reeed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

This is Rod of destruction. The rod is scepter, and measures for destruction. Not for building.

Why ???

Because satan as antichrist, 6th trump, sat in the temple, claiming to be messiah. It's a abomination
The temple is polluted.
Jesus will turn that temple to dust at the 7th trump.

Jesus is King, and has the scepter.

Jesus will establish His own temple.

Ezekiel chapter 40:48.
NEW TEMPLE.

Jesus will establish new temple at 7th trump.

Ezekiel chapter 40 to 48 is about the new temple and ditties of the priests, during the millennium.

I documented this.

Have you looked closely at what it says the purpose of the animal sacrifices performed at that temple would be?

Ezekiel 45:15 Also one sheep is to be taken from every flock of two hundred from the well-watered pastures of Israel. These will be used for the grain offerings, burnt offerings and fellowship offerings to make atonement for the people, declares the Sovereign Lord. 16 All the people of the land will be required to give this special offering to the prince in Israel. 17 It will be the duty of the prince to provide the burnt offerings, grain offerings and drink offerings at the festivals, the New Moons and the Sabbaths—at all the appointed festivals of Israel. He will provide the sin offerings, grain offerings, burnt offerings and fellowship offerings to make atonement for the Israelites.

Didn't Jesus make His "once for all" atonement for the sins of the whole world long ago already when He made the old covenant and it's animal sacrifices and offerings obsolete? Why would animal sacrifices and offerings be made for atonement in the future when Jesus made them obsolete long ago already? That does not make any sense. This has to be taken into consideration.

We are tempeh of God. Body of christ.

Right. So, how can any future physical temple be considered the temple of God? There is not more than one temple of God.

Acts 17:24 “The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands. 25 And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything. Rather, he himself gives everyone life and breath and everything else. 2

Sir
Your not comprehensive of Ezekiel chapter 40 to 48.

I am showing you what it can't mean. Your current understanding of it contradicts other scripture.

Also, have you considered that it is a conditional prophecy and that the conditions were not met?

Ezekiel 43:9 Now let them put away from me their prostitution and the funeral offerings for their kings, and I will live among them forever. 10 “Son of man, describe the temple to the people of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their sins. Let them consider its perfection, 11 and if they are ashamed of all they have done, make known to them the design of the temple—its arrangement, its exits and entrances—its whole design and all its regulations and laws. Write these down before them so that they may be faithful to its design and follow all its regulations.

This temple was to be built upon the condition that the Israelites of that time long ago would "put away from me their prostitution and the funeral offerings for their kings" and that they would be "ashamed of all they have done". That didn't happen.

Clearly. This is bible prophecy for the millennium.

Clearly, seeing it that way contradicts other scripture like Hebrews 8-10 which says that Jesus established the new covenant with His blood and made the old covenant and its animal sacrifices and offerings obsolete. To reinstate what Jesus made obsolete would be offensive to what He accomplished on the cross. Please think about this.

This new temple will be built by Jesus at 7th trump.

Why ???

Because the millennium is time of teaching and discipline for the spirtualty dead.

Please show me where this is taught in scripture.

Those who worshipped antichrist at 6th trump. Have to be discipline and taught by priests during millennium.

Again, please show me where this is taught in scripture. I don't believe it is.

 

[strepho]

Have you looked closely at what it says the purpose of the animal sacrifices performed at that temple would be?

Ezekiel 45:15 Also one sheep is to be taken from every flock of two hundred from the well-watered pastures of Israel. These will be used for the grain offerings, burnt offerings and fellowship offerings to make atonement for the people, declares the Sovereign Lord. 16 All the people of the land will be required to give this special offering to the prince in Israel. 17 It will be the duty of the prince to provide the burnt offerings, grain offerings and drink offerings at the festivals, the New Moons and the Sabbaths—at all the appointed festivals of Israel. He will provide the sin offerings, grain offerings, burnt offerings and fellowship offerings to make atonement for the Israelites.

Didn't Jesus make His "once for all" atonement for the sins of the whole world long ago already when He made the old covenant and it's animal sacrifices and offerings obsolete? Why would animal sacrifices and offerings be made for atonement in the future when Jesus made them obsolete long ago already? That does not make any sense. This has to be taken into consideration.


Right. So, how can any future physical temple be considered the temple of God? There is not more than one temple of God.

Acts 17:24 “The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands. 25 And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything. Rather, he himself gives everyone life and breath and everything else. 2


I am showing you what it can't mean. Your current understanding of it contradicts other scripture.

Also, have you considered that it is a conditional prophecy and that the conditions were not met?

Ezekiel 43:9 Now let them put away from me their prostitution and the funeral offerings for their kings, and I will live among them forever. 10 “Son of man, describe the temple to the people of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their sins. Let them consider its perfection, 11 and if they are ashamed of all they have done, make known to them the design of the temple—its arrangement, its exits and entrances—its whole design and all its regulations and laws. Write these down before them so that they may be faithful to its design and follow all its regulations.

This temple was to be built upon the condition that the Israelites of that time long ago would "put away from me their prostitution and the funeral offerings for their kings" and that they would be "ashamed of all they have done". That didn't happen.


Clearly, seeing it that way contradicts other scripture like Hebrews 8-10 which says that Jesus established the new covenant with His blood and made the old covenant and its animal sacrifices and offerings obsolete. To reinstate what Jesus made obsolete would be offensive to what He accomplished on the cross. Please think about this.


Please show me where this is taught in scripture.


Again, please show me where this is taught in scripture. I don't believe it is.

My last reply. Ezekiel chapter 40 is about Dimension and cubits of the temple. This is the millennium.

THERE ARE NO ANIMAL SACRIFICES IN EZEKIEL CHAPTER 40.

40:3.
He took me there, and I saw a man whose appearance was like bronze, he was standing in the gateway with a linen cord, and a reassuring rod in his hand.

40:5
I saw a wall completely surrounding the temple area


There is no animal sacrifices in Ezekiel chapter 40.

Ezekiel had vision. Out of body experience. God took his spirit to the day of the lord, the beginning of the millennium.

This angel is telling Ezekiel, and showing him the millennium temple


Chapter 40 of Ezekiel is about the measurement, and cubits of the millennium temple.

There's no animal sacrifices.

Ezekiel chapter 45.

Let's understand this.

The prince is Jesus.

In the sanctuary, only the priests are allowed access to Jesus.

Verse 5. Levites, they are priests, serve in the Temple.

These sacrifices are love offerings. There are no animal sacrifices in the millennium.

Passover will be kept
Feast of tabernacles will be kept

The only offering Christian can give, is your Love.

Hoses chapter 6

I don't want your burnt offerings
But your love.

Your not understanding what your reading. That's why Christian people are trained under pastor for at least 20 years.

Friend. You need to study under pastor. I would find pastor.

There's no contradiction in God's word.


Again. There's no animal sacrifices in the millennium.

Jesus died on the cross two thousand years ago.

I documented in hosea chapter 6, only our Love can we offer to Jesus.

You need to study with pastor.

If you won't study with shepherds chapel. I recommend finding another pastor.


Ezekiel chapter 43

Again. Ezekiel had vision, was brought to day of Lord, millennium.

Ezekiel is shown the Temple.
Verse 7. The Throne is inside the Temple. The prince is Jesus. H

During millennium. The spirtualty dead will give up their false religion. And abide by true worship of God and the truth.

No more traditions of men and false doctrine.

Anyone who clings to false preachers will follow satan into lake of fire.

All people will keep the Passover, and feast of tabernacles during millennium.

Psalm chapter 50
God won't tolerate false religion. Those who are complicit with the false shepherds.

God won't tolerate infidelity !

The anonemnt the priests give is thier love. There's no animal sacrifices in the millennium.
It's love offerings.

God wont tolerate idolatry and false religion.

He wants your love and worship .

The Zadok are priests. Only the priests are allowed near Jesus in the millennium.

Those who are spiritually dead are not allowed in the millennium temple.

I documented it.
I carefully explained it .

Sir. You need to study with pastor. I'm being respectful.

Peace.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

My last reply. Ezekiel chapter 40 is about Dimension and cubits of the temple. This is the millennium.

THERE ARE NO ANIMAL SACRIFICES IN EZEKIEL CHAPTER 40.

40:3.
He took me there, and I saw a man whose appearance was like bronze, he was standing in the gateway with a linen cord, and a reassuring rod in his hand.

40:5
I saw a wall completely surrounding the temple area


There is no animal sacrifices in Ezekiel chapter 40.

Ezekiel had vision. Out of body experience. God took his spirit to the day of the lord, the beginning of the millennium.

This angel is telling Ezekiel, and showing him the millennium temple


Chapter 40 of Ezekiel is about the measurement, and cubits of the millennium temple.

There's no animal sacrifices.

Ezekiel chapter 45.

Let's understand this.

The prince is Jesus.

In the sanctuary, only the priests are allowed access to Jesus.

Verse 5. Levites, they are priests, serve in the Temple.

These sacrifices are love offerings. There are no animal sacrifices in the millennium.

Passover will be kept
Feast of tabernacles will be kept

The only offering Christian can give, is your Love.

Hoses chapter 6

I don't want your burnt offerings
But your love.

Your not understanding what your reading. That's why Christian people are trained under pastor for at least 20 years.

Friend. You need to study under pastor. I would find pastor.

There's no contradiction in God's word.


Again. There's no animal sacrifices in the millennium.

Jesus died on the cross two thousand years ago.

I documented in hosea chapter 6, only our Love can we offer to Jesus.

You need to study with pastor.

If you won't study with shepherds chapel. I recommend finding another pastor.


Ezekiel chapter 43

Again. Ezekiel had vision, was brought to day of Lord, millennium.

Ezekiel is shown the Temple.
Verse 7. The Throne is inside the Temple. The prince is Jesus. H

During millennium. The spirtualty dead will give up their false religion. And abide by true worship of God and the truth.

No more traditions of men and false doctrine.

Anyone who clings to false preachers will follow satan into lake of fire.

All people will keep the Passover, and feast of tabernacles during millennium.

Psalm chapter 50
God won't tolerate false religion. Those who are complicit with the false shepherds.

God won't tolerate infidelity !

The anonemnt the priests give is thier love. There's no animal sacrifices in the millennium.
It's love offerings.

God wont tolerate idolatry and false religion.

He wants your love and worship .

The Zadok are priests. Only the priests are allowed near Jesus in the millennium.

Those who are spiritually dead are not allowed in the millennium temple.

I documented it.
I carefully explained it .

Sir. You need to study with pastor. I'm being respectful.

Peace.

Show me where scripture itself teaches that I need to study under a pastor. Is the Holy Spirit not capable of teaching me? You made the mistake of putting man on a pedestal instead of letting the Holy Spirit teach you about this and being like the Bereans to study this for yourself (Acts 17:10-11). You rely too much on man's opinions.

With that said, we can agree to disagree at this point. Thanks for the discussion.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Could this be the fulfilling of the prophecy and of 2nd Peter 3:10? According to a scientific study there is a possibility within a hundred years ago the earth could start transforming into a planet like Venus. The question is how long will it take a few hundred years or a billion?

Earth could become an uninhabitable HELL, study shows Earth could become an uninhabitable HELL, study shows

No, the Lord is not going to allow the earth to become that messed up.

It will be really bad during the tribulation, but once Jesus arrives back on earth things will be very well because He's going to make things to be very well.

No need worrying over stuff like this or about the fake "climate change" nonsense either. It's all a scam to get people to accept the coming one world government and it's anti-christ.

 

[Sheila3]

No, the Lord is not going to allow the earth to become that messed up.

It will be really bad during the tribulation, but once Jesus arrives back on earth things will be very well because He's going to make things to be very well.

No need worrying over stuff like this or about the fake "climate change" nonsense either. It's all a scam to get people to accept the coming one world government and it's anti-christ.

Thank you
I have to say I'm not worried over what's going on in the world I'm just curious as to what others think. And I've been in this world for quite some time and I see the climate change through the weather.

 

[Brakelite]

Let us not forget Jesus's words, the meek shall inherit the earth. The earth, restored to it's Edenic beauty, is to be the eternal home of God's people, with the New Jerusalem coming down from heaven and becoming the Capital of the universe with God reigning as King. Most agree with the above. Where we come to the parting of ways iswhen.