1st problem with O.S.A.S.
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Michiah-Imla
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No:
“…grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.” (2 Peter 3:18)
Because:
“…the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.” (Romans 8:7-8)
@Taken you are in the flesh and cannot please God.
Scripture falls out of my mouth!
But since I don’t use your leaven it’s accounted as garbage to you!
“For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.” (Luke 21:15)
Taken
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You come to the forum bearing the CHIP on your SHOULDER for all to see.
* You begin your POSTS with a PERSONAL ATTACH...
* Then you thumb through the Scriptures setting your SIGHTS ON A SCRIPTURE, “THAT DOES NOT APPLY TO AN OTHER”...
* AND THEN...wag your tongue PROCLAIMING that SCRIPTURE APPLIES to the other.
YOU are NOT qualified to PICK AND CHOOSE Scriptures that APPLY to others.
The entire Bible could fall out of your mouth....YET, I said NOTHING AGAINST Scripture.
I expressly was AGAINST YOUR words, YOUR accusations, YOUR calling the Scriptures likened to “garbage and a Comic Book”.
You couldn’t even be HONEST about that! Those are YOUR WORDS, you own them.
WOULD YOU LIKE, for me to PICK AND CHOOSE Scriptures FOR YOU, and SAY THEY APPLY TO YOU?
HOW ABOUT THIS: (since you SCOFF at dividing the word of TRUTH).
THIS MUST APPLY TO YOU:...eh?
John 5:
[29] And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
Matt 23:
[33] Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Jer 51:
[9] We would have healed Babylon, but she is not healed: forsake her, and let us go every one into his own country: for her judgment reacheth unto heaven, and is lifted up even to the skies.
2 Peter 2:
[15] Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
HOW YA LIKE IT?
AN OTHER (doing what YOU DO)...??
ANOTHER...Dividing the Word of TRUTH...FOR YOU!
IS that not sufficient? Do you ALSO want (AS YOU DO) an other to TOSS IN a slew of Personal attacks too?
Taken
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Why do you ASK for an answer you have already been given?
Already gave you the ANSWER...The BIBLE...2 Tim 2:15
Rightly dividing the WORD of TRUTH;
Requires the individual to FIRST decide WHAT he is claiming is TRUTH.
I claim ALL Scripture is TRUTH.
Rightly Dividing is WHAT Scripture APPLIES to me,
FROM WHAT Scripture DOES NOT APPLY to me.
Example;
1 John 1:
[6] If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: <— DOES NOT APPLY TO ME.
[7] But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin: <—- DOES APPLY TO ME.
[8] If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us: <—- DOES NOT APPLY TO ME.
[9] If we confess our sins: <—- DID APPLY TO ME.
he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, <—- DID APPLY TO ME.
and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness: <—-DOES APPLY TO ME.
[10] If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. <—- DOES NOT APPLY TO ME.
1 John 3:
[9] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
^ DOES APPLY TO ME.
[10] In this the children of God are manifest, <- DOES APPLY TO ME
and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. <DOES NOT APPLY TO ME
[13] Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.
^ DOES APPLY TO ME
[14] We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. <— DOES APPLY TO ME.
He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
^ DOES NOT APPLY TO ME.
It is utterly FOOLISH to pretend ALL Scripture APPLIES to ONE person, when A PERSON IS “IN” Christ, IS in complete opposition of a person “NOT IN” Christ.
Michiah-Imla
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Lie.
I said the theology of Dispensationalism turns the Bible into a comic book.
Get your facts straight!
No, I come with a heart and mind full of God’s word!
Says you?
I attack your doctrine. Not you. I gave a strong admonishing out of love. Nothing more.
Would it be rude for someone to yell at you to warn you of danger?
Michiah-Imla
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Where IN THE BIBLE are you told that some scripture does not apply to you?
On the contrary:
“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness” (2 Timothy 3:16)
Maybe this is why you fall short.
Someone told you, YEA HATH GOD SAID?
Taken
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You played Satan’s tricks. I called you out.
YOU decided a particular TERM, applies to me.
YOU applied that TERM, to me.
YOU then decided that TERM applies to people who Treat the Scriptures as “garbage and a Comic Book”.
I however, have never applied that Term to me.
I am not of the believe, that Term means, “treating or calling Scripture garbage or liken that term to a Comic Book”.
SEE? ALL your thoughts, your claims, your words....
I am not responsible for your thoughts, your claims, your words...
YOU ARE
God DIRECTED YOU TO DECIDE FOR ME...”A tag name, my thoughts, my beliefs, my words” ... and THEN... after you attempt to dump all your thoughts and words on me....you SHINE like a holy star, disagreeing with everything YOU JUST SAID “FOR ME”?
GET REAL...God neither promotes or condones YOU GIVING FALSE TESTIMONY FOR OTHERS.
GET REAL...YOU FALSELY DECIDED MY DOCTRINE...then bashed it.
GET REAL...you said DISPENSATIONALIST....
WHERE did I mention DISPENSATIONALISM?
IF you want to BASH a person who says they are a DISPENSATIONALIST....Thumb through the posts and find one who branded themselves as a DISPENSATIONALIST....and LET LOOSE your TONGUE on them. WHY Drag me into your BS?
Ronald David Bruno
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Oh please, Do you not know what faith is? You use it to identify yourself with, "Theefaith".
Hebrews 11:1 tells you. It is a certainty of what Jesus promised, salvation, if you believe in Him. Aren't you sure of this faith, a gift, not earned?
These are all identification qualities of the Elect possess, faith, perseverance, hope, a message to all beginners ... "You are in Christ, you have power ... this is what you are made of ... you will endure to the end... And for those who don't, they are not His. It is encouragement as well, with reminders that we need to obey - of course. You become a Christian and you don't know what to expect, it's a journey, but we will prevail BECAUSE HE IS THE AUTHOR OF OUR FAITH AND IT IS NOT SOMETHING WE CAN REWRITE.
The Bible is a manual, informing us of the path that we must follow, by faith and so these are all warnings and to abide in Him. As children we need this kind of disciplinary teaching. "If you don't clean up your room, do your homework, and do as you are told, Disneyland is off the table!" This keeps them in line. We know we will take them, but they need this sort of "if you don't" lessons. Kids get spoiled, right if they think everything is to be handed to them on a silver platter. They need to be responsible. But in the end, as parents, we love them and know that we will not forsake them.
More teaching on the qualities of a Christian that we gradually learn along the way.
A Christian > is responsible - they support their family.
> does what Christ says to do, this is abiding in Him
> holds onto his faith in confidence
> endures to the end
Hebrews was written to Jewish Christians and a stern message was also given Hebrews who were not converts. The word of God was given to them and if they did not believe in Christ, then they would die in their sins.
The Bible is filled with warnings for non-Christians of what will happen to them. These scriptures are not for us believers. But faith is weak in some and so they need discipline and chastisement, but it is temporal, for God chastises those He loves.
Michiah-Imla
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You speak like a Dispensationalist.
Do you “rightly divide” the scriptures according to Dispensational theology?
Michiah-Imla
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Wrong again.
The “term” (Dispensationalism) is what turns the Bible into a comic book. The “people” using Dispensationalism are not the object of my contempt.
Taken
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You are too stubborn, Stiffnecked and Ignorant of the difference between Positive and Negative Direction.
REALLY? You are attempting TO CORRECT a person “IN” Christ, by warning them of the Dangers of NOT BEING “IN” Christ?
Here’s some instruction for you.
A man “IN” Christ, is NOT IN DANGER OF ever Falling away from Faith.
Ding, ding, ding.....A man “IN” Christ is KEPT Forever WITH God...
BY THE POWER OF GOD...
ARE ya, disillusioned, unknowing, unbelieving....THE POWER of God is SUPREME?
ARE ya, preaching to those IN Christ, can fall away...BECAUSE???
WHAT??? DO TELL...DOES Gods POWER IN THEM...FAIL?
Taken
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So? you speak like a Devil follower.
Do you DIVIDE the Scripture by “picking and choosing” Scriptures that apply to the Devil and TRY to make those Scriptures APPLY to those “IN” Christ?
WHY? Because those Scriptures, that APPLY to the Devil, APPLY to you, and YOU want them to also APPLY to others?
Michiah-Imla
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Man, what are you talking about??
The Bible is instruction on how to behave and worship God.
You either follow and obey it, or you ignore and disobey it.
You chose.
Man, what are you talking about??
The Bible is instruction on how to behave and worship God.
You either follow and obey it, or you ignore and disobey it.
You chose.
Taken
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Don’t be coy.
YOU brought up the TERM ... not me.
YOU associated that TERM to me.... I didn’t.
YOU then bashed those associated with that TERM... I didn’t.
YOU own your own thoughts, words, actions...not me.
Michiah-Imla
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Taken
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Oh good grief....
The Bible is FULL of Warning of what NOT TO DO...
I am “IN” Christ, and the Spirit of God “IN” me...
So what SCRIPTURES, do I NEED TO CONSIDER, to REMAIN “IN” Christ, and the Spirit of God REMAIN “IN” me?
ANSWER?
Michiah-Imla
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For starters:
Hebrews 10:26
Colossians 1:23
Romans 11:22
Luke 12:46
So you think being “IN” Christ absolves you of the consequences of sin?
Do you follow Dispensational Theology? Does it influence how the scriptures affect you? Afraid to answer this question?
Taken
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The word “THEOLOGY” simply is derived from a combination of two Greek words that mean; The study of God.
I don’t know, don’t care about any “MAN-MADE THEOLOGY SYSTEM”...
You appear to be an expert on Dispensational Theology...I’m not.
I study God via His Scriptural approved word.
Taken
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What a putz.
You think I am obligated to put answering your questions above all other things in my life? Your error. Even giving my dog attention is more important that answering your questions....YOU wait.
Michiah-Imla
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Thank you!
“Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you...” (Matthew 5:11)
Be blessed @Taken
With love!
