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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    If that is true you should be able to show this from the Word of God. But you cannot, because John is given us to understand that faithful saints are still alive in heaven after physical death and are a spiritual body of believers there. Because NONE shall be bodily resurrected to life until...
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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    Prove from the Scriptures the thousand years does not start until after the resurrection on the last day when the last trumpet sounds? 1 Corinthians 15:52 (KJV) In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Do you not believe that Christ is the first resurrection, who by His life suffered the judgment of God for the sins of His people (elect)?
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    While I agree while the saints are still alive upon this earth they suffer through "great tribulation." But the saints shall not be on the earth when the wrath of God by fire is poured out to consume the earth and every living thing upon it. The saints who have physically died shall be...
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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    Again, should we believe what you say without bringing forth verification from the Word of God to prove what you allege? I feel the only confusion comes from those who lack spiritual discernment of the spiritual Kingdom of God that is not of this earth, is not physical and cannot be seen though...
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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    Is this really all you have? You have no better answer? I know from what I've read from other posts from you that you have pretty good knowledge of the Bible. My fear, and what I'm beginning to assume is that you may not have spiritual knowledge or even understand the Kingdom of God is a...
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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    Faithful saints, all who have part in the first resurrection before they die shall reign with Christ not only now during this time symbolized a thousand years, but also on the new earth. Just as John tells us. How can the martyred souls have lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years...
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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    It is through the first advent of Christ that this time likened "a thousand years" began. The first resurrection and judgement came during the first century AD when there was judgement of this world and the cross and resurrection of Christ. This is what marks the beginning of "a thousand...
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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    It's hard to explain that which is called Amil doctrine in few words. Basically, the biblical doctrine of Amil understands time as represented in NT Scripture "a thousand years" began with the first advent of Christ, and will end when the last trumpet sounds, when this time shall be no longer...
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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    Can you point out where you have proven the Amils replying to you that you have proven have contradicted the Word of God?
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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    But in 70 AD neither Gentiles in unbelief, nor Gentiles of faith have achieved the fullness of the Gentiles. To this day Gentile nations are still seeking to destroy Israel. Both physically and spiritually. Paul is here speaking of that which was a mystery before the first coming of Christ...
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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    Of course this is true, and I haven't seen anyone argue otherwise. The Jews in the first century AD did not believe that God would save Gentiles too. They believed themselves alone to be the elect of God and they alone to inherit salvation because they were the physical offspring (seeds) of...
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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    If you want to be taken as a serious student of the Word of God, you need to address the inconsistencies and or contradictions that have been shown by using the Bible to prove your doctrine. What we often find in those holding to the doctrine of premillennialism is they simply ignore the...
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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    The blindness in part to the Jews was seen in the first century AD, and to this day there is still a blindness in part. Never of the whole Jewish people, because many of them, like many Gentiles believe according to grace through faith. The blindness in part is NOT limited to only Jews in...
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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    Most excellent biblical reply! Looking for literal/physical fulfillment of prophecies of Old is one reason the Jews rejected their Messiah when He came.
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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    Blindness is only in part because there has always been a remnant of ethnic Israel who believe. They are the other part who are not in blindness. If this part in blindness does not turn to the Lord to be saved before the last trumpet sounds it will be too late for them to be saved. TODAY, now...
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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    The rest is future from when?
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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    So many are without understanding because when they read the Old Covenant prophets, they can only see the day of the Lord they foretell to come as His second coming. Then to fit all the prophecies into that final day of the Lord when He comes again, they must come up with more time (one...
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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    Most definitely the day of the Lord the prophets foretell includes what shall come to pass on the last day of the Lord, but it is error to believe the coming day of the Lord the prophets foretell is speaking specifically of His second coming. The prophets foresee the day of the Lord coming that...
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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    Since the day of the Lord the prophets foretell would come began with the first advent of Christ coming to earth a man, would you not agree that all that comes to pass from the first coming of the Lord until the last trumpet sounds includes whatsoever has come, and also what shall come...