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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    Too bad, but I understand! Pride often keeps us from seeking for truth after the doctrine we've been deceived by is proven to be unbiblical doctrines of men! You have a nice day as well.
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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    You're inventing a narrative taken out of context! Revelation 5 is clearly a vision of things seen in heaven, not on this earth. The saints of heaven, who shall reign forever with the Lord on the new earth. According to Scripture when we become saved we are reigning spiritually with the Lord...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    The Word of God recorded by the Apostle Paul disagrees with you! He very plainly tells us that none of the faithful dead, not even faithful saints still alive when Christ comes the second and only time, will be changed from mortal & corruptible body of death to immortal & incorruptible lives...
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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    When Christ came casting out many devils and demons from people demon possessed, He tells us this is proof the Kingdom of God has come. The disciples, like you did not understand how Christ came in the Kingdom of God since it was not a material/physical Kingdom. Luke 11:20 (KJV) But if I...
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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    Where in Scripture can you show that Christ will reign on THIS earth for a thousand years?
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    You're confusing being physically resurrected from death with immortal life. NONE shall be raised immortal & incorruptible until the seventh trumpet sounds. Paul says the resurrection to immortality shall be in a moment and twinkling of an eye. John writes it shall be in "the hour coming"...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    I've not said the great tribulation faithful disciples suffer, in some cases unto death, is the same as the wrath of God. My purpose for replying is that FACT! Though the Bible speaks in terms of the Jews coming judgment, and as history proves that time of God's judgment came in 70 AD, the...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    If that were true there would be no reason for us to here His Word and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved. The hour that NOW is began with the first century disciples of Christ hearing His Word before they physically died and believing. The same way any man who is dead in trespasses...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    In this life mankind shall have tribulation, and for all who remain evil the wrath of God shall come upon them. That doesn't mean the disciples of Christ shall not experience "great tribulation" like none other as they faithfully proclaim the Gospel unto all the nations of the earth.
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Christ NEVER promised a first century return. His promise was that He would come to them by sending His Spirit who would be within them, and never depart. It is in this manner that the promise of Christ was fulfilled "I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen." John 14:16-17...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    John 5:24-25 (KJV) Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    Christ was speaking to His disciples from the Mt of Olives telling THEM that THEY should expect "great tribulation" as they proclaim His name unto all the earth. And that is exactly what faithful disciples of Christ have experienced in this world as they obediently followed the Lord's command...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    If these saints of Old have been resurrected back to life on earth in immortal bodies, how is that reconciled with what John has written in Jo 5 where he writes ALL of the dead shall be resurrected from the graves unto the resurrection of damnation, or resurrection of life? John 5:28-29 (KJV)...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    We will have glorified immortal & incorruptible body when the Lord comes again and we are caught up and changed when the last trumpet sounds. The Holy Spirit within our spirit does not give us glorified body of flesh. Through the power of the Spirit within us, our spirit leaves our dead...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    There is no question about our bodies being resurrected to life again. I would hope that we all agree every human body shall be resurrected to life again. The question is not if, but rather when?
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    The physical body of faithful saints will be immortal & incorruptible. The body we have now is mortal & corruptible returns to dust. The faithful will not be resurrected immortal & incorruptible body of flesh before the last trumpet sounds. Therefore, it makes no sense for some to argue there...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    There will be none bodily resurrected until the hour that is coming when the last trumpet sounds that time shall be no longer. Then ALL, both good and evil shall be bodily resurrected, those who have done good, resurrected immortal & incorruptible. And those who have done evil resurrected to...
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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    Yes, as each and every faithful saint physically dies, we don't all die at once but one by one in his own order. When we die we are joined together with Christ the firstfruits to wait for the fulness of the Kingdom of God to come, because that will mark the end when the last Gentile to be saved...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Who is saying there is no resurrection of the dead? Even Paul, writing of what shall become of the saints after physical death acknowledges the bodily resurrection that shall be for the faithful saints when the last trumpet sounds. 1 Corinthians 15:50-54 (KJV) Now this I say, brethren, that...
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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    When do you think this prophecy shall be fulfilled? You must know by now that it cannot be after the Lord comes again to establish the Kingdom of God on THIS earth? This earth and every living thing on it shall be burned up when Christ comes the second time. Why would Christ bring His Kingdom...