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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Yes, but who shall inhabit New Jerusalem? In the New Jerusalem there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither pain "FOR THE FORMER THINGS ARE PASSED AWAY"! The New Jerusalem shall be after the first heaven and the first earth have passed away. That's why TIME given this...
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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    It is very difficult to arrive at a proper understanding of Old Covenant prophecies for Israel, Jerusalem, even the earth at large without seeking for clarity through what is written (NT) since Christ came and by His sacrificial life, death and resurrection ushered in the New Covenant that...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The Apostle John disagrees with you. Revelation 10:5-7 (KJV) And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    Scripture affirms that not all who are called Israel in the flesh are indeed Israel of God through Christ's Spirit. When we read of the whole physical house of Israel being dried up bones and without hope, how does that change what Paul has said regarding only a remnant of them being saved...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    If that is true, then Paul is contradicting himself. You're reading this passage in isolation without taking into consideration how Paul has already told us that only "the remnant of Israel shall be saved." Romans 9:27 (KJV) Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    Can you explain what you mean by a pause between vss. 28-29? After the tribulation of those days "And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see" (with eyes wide open) IOW the appearance of Christ is visibly/physically...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    Could you show this using Scripture?
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    What earth shall believers reign on with the Lord FOREVER? It won't be on this earth that is destined to be burned up. It shall be on the new earth that shall be after Christ returns and makes all things new again. Revelation 5:6-10 (KJV) And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    The fullness of Gentiles marks the end of the mystery that Gentiles too shall be saved. There won't be more time for ethnic Israel to be saved. It will mark the end of all time when the seventh trumpet sounds.
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    What verses or passages prove Christ shall reign on THIS earth for one thousand years?
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    Where does it say the blindness in part shall be removed? UNTIL does not mean the blindness in part shall be removed after the fulness of Gentiles comes in. It says only that the blindness in part shall remain until the END of time, because once the last Gentile to be saved comes in then the...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The reason given for the binding of Satan is "so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished." Would you NOT agree that since the cross of Christ the deception Satan held over the nations has been lifted? IOW Satan no longer has power to hold Gentiles of...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The Great White Throne Judgment Day happens after the seventh trumpet sounds that TIME shall be no longer. How can there be another one thousand years of TIME since time given this earth shall be finished when the seventh trumpet sounds? You are still waiting for the Day of the Lord to come...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    But according to Peter's words these "last days" began at Pentecost, and proof of this is the outpouring of the Holy Spirit upon all who believe. We have been living in the latter days, or these last days from the first advent of Christ come to earth, and these last days shall end, not continue...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Joel's prophecy began to come to pass at Pentecost when the Spirit was poured out upon whosoever believes. That is all men without distinction, but not all men without exception, but all men who believe the Gospel. The signs Joel foretells shall still come to pass just as it is written, but...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I believe that in this passage Paul gives us assurance of life even after we physically die. Because the life we HAVE in Him is FOREVER. While alive in Christ on earth we are the physical body of spiritually alive believers. And we have this promise that when we are alive in Christ we shall...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You do know that God is Spirit, right?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    C&Z the HUMAN named Jesus, that is His physical body, died and was buried, but to prove death CANNOT hold God He arose from the grave physically to prove His SPIRIT, which God is, NEVER died!
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    What's really sad is not realizing that if one does not believe Jesus IS God in the flesh, they are without a Savior! They are still dead in trespasses and sins, destined to die twice!
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    How can you deny the deity of Christ but still insist He is NOT God? How do you define the deity of God?