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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Actually, as post trib Amil we believe the rapture shall come when the last trumpet sounds the Lord's Second coming! That does not anticipate a SPECIFIC day, but a day that none shall know which shall come when the last trumpet sounds that TIME shall be no longer. The problem you face is...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    If by tag team you mean that Amils consistently use Scripture to prove biblical truth, then yes, I suppose Amils do indeed support biblical doctrine we bring to these discussions in opposition to doctrines of Premils.
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    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    Can you show Scripture to prove Zechariah 14 speak of things that come to pass after Christ's second coming? The prophets foretell of things that shall come to pass when the Day of the Lord shall come. Zechariah, like all the prophecies of Old MUST all be fulfilled within the time that began...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    That's the biblical view, as you've been repeatedly shown! Christ comes again when the last (seventh) trumpet shall sound that TIME shall be no longer (Rev 10:5-7). How does this FACT contradict no man knowing the day and hour?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Exactly! He ignores every rebuttal brought forth because he can't fit the rebuttals into his ridiculous charts!
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    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    The Old Testament prophets wrote of the coming Day of the Lord when the promised Messiah would come to redeem His people. They do not prophesy of a second coming of Christ. They prophesy of what would come to pass AFTER His coming. The prophecies are rightly understood when we realize they...
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    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    I agree. The Day of the Lord referenced in the New Testament points to the final Day (1) of the Lord that is coming. The NT writers need not refer to the coming Day of the Lord as time that began with Christ's first coming, because they and all who came after are witnesses of this truth. But...
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    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    Yes, I agree the NT speaks of this time the Old Testament prophets foretell as the Day of the Lord when the promised Messiah would come AGAIN, and all that is written concerning Him would then be utterly fulfilled then. The NT references as "these last days" or "the last time" will be the final...
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    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    Of course, the birth of Christ that ushered in the Day of the Lord the prophets foretell would NOT begin with darkness and gloom. The darkness and gloom the prophets foretell regarding the Day of the Lord will come at the end of the Day of the Lord, not at the beginning. The prophets foretell...
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    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    Note when the Day of the Lord began. During these last days, the prophet Joel calls the Day of the Lord coming, even at hand there shall be not only darkness and gloominess, and a devouring fire, but during this Day of the Lord whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be delivered...
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    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    The destruction of sinners will indeed be, and they shall be utterly destroyed on the final/last Day of the Lord that shall come when the age/time/day of God's grace through Christ is finished, and no more shall be saved.
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    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    The Day of the Lord Christ ushered in is on-going and will not be finished until Christ comes again when the last trumpet sounds. All that has been foretold regarding destruction of sinners shall come to pass, just as the prophets foretell it shall.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    These passages speak of the second coming of Christ, when the saints will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air PHYSICALLY! Observed being bodily resurrected from physical death to immortal, incorruptible everlasting life. If saints are not bodily/physically resurrected to meet the Lord in...
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    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    The Day of the Lord began when Jesus came to earth a man. Every true believer is waiting for the coming of Jesus AGAIN! For that shall be not only a blessed Day for believers but a Day of fiery wrath of God upon all the earth for those in unbelief. The on-going Day of the Lord had its...
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    God Created All Humanity When He Created Adam

    The promises of God all originate from heaven, but only the Covenant of Redemption through Christ is eternal, or from everlasting to everlasting. It is the only promise that is dependent upon the faithfulness of God, the Son, that was not only ordained but also fulfilled according to promise...
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    God Created All Humanity When He Created Adam

    You must make a distinction between the promises of God having been ordained in heaven, and the promises literally fulfilled when Christ came to earth a man. There cannot be a promise of God ordained in heaven that shall not come to pass in time.
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    God Created All Humanity When He Created Adam

    Ellicott's Bible Commentary for English Readers Rev 13:8 "There is some doubt about the connection of the words "from the foundation of the world." Some connect them with the word "written": this would express that the names were written "from the foundation of the world" in the book. Others...
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    The Book Of Life

    How can they be the same? Only "the dead" according to Rev 20 are judged according to what is found written in the book(s). While all those written in the Lamb's Book of Life have overcome the second death that is the Lake of Fire.
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    The Book Of Life

    All are blotted out of the book of the living when we physically die. But names recorded in the Lamb's Book of Life can never be blotted out if we live and die IN Christ. Whosoever is an overcomer while physically alive have the promise of God that their names shall NEVER be blotted out of the...
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    God Created All Humanity When He Created Adam

    There is a difference between the books that record the names of all who live and die, and the Lamb's Book of Life that has recorded all of the names of whosoever shall be saved. Names are recorded in the Lamb's Book of Life from the foundation of the world because the promise that Christ would...