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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics

    ... and they only do it when we give them quotes from the early Chiliasts. That is the way the glean their position - from man.
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics

    So, now that you agree with us Amillennialists that Satan was bound 2000 years ago, can you give me one single historic quote that shows that these early fathers believed in a second binding of Satan at the second coming for 1000 years? I will not hold my breath. I know, you know, and the...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics

    LOL. That is the usual response of Premillennialist when they realize what they're saying is false. Suddenly they become Amillennialists. At least we have gained solid territory today.
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. I see your carefully left out this first. If it gets the time that it happened. Who then is the “man child” who “was to rule all nations with a...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics

    Let us cut through all this Chatgpt nonsense (once and for all) and bury it. Let us see the facts. So, where did Justin teach "Jesus returns binds Satan, resurrects the righteous, and reigns for 1,000 years? Give us a hard quotes, instead of some computer talking to you. So, where did Justin...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics

    LOL. Do you think Chatgpt is omniscient? It scans websites and shares what it finds. Many prominent websites are Premil and full of nonsense. Why do you think you always get what you want? You do not tell us about the 20 other searches you did that give you different info. This is...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics

    Irenaeus repeatedly teaches in his writings that Satan was bound at the First Advent. [W]hen He spoke of the devil as strong, not absolutely so, but as in comparison with us, the Lord showed Himself under every aspect and truly to be the strong man, saying that one can in no other way “spoil...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics

    Justin Martyr Asia Minor (now Turkey) (AD 100-166) He declared that He would break the power of the serpent which occasioned the transgression of Adam, and [would bring] to them that believe in Him [who was foreshadowed] by this sign, i.e., Him who was to be crucified, salvation from the fangs...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics

    Irenaeus was the great champion of early Chiliasm. He probably wrote in the clearest detail and had the greatest influence of all the early Chiliasts. His origins were notable in from Asia Minor. Notwithstanding, he was Bishop of Lyons, Gaul from where he wrote extensively. He was believed to...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics

    Premil is always elevating the power and authority of Satan and denigrated the power and authority of Christ. What about 1 Peter 5:8? Let us read it: “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour.” The very next verse 1...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics

    As usual, you are cherry picking what texts you want to pull out of Scripture in those books and bring to the table. That's because you have nothing these early writers. Where did he ever teach that there was going to be the return of animal sacrifices?
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics

    Nowhere does Irenaeus mention the binding of Satan at the second coming. In fact, not one early writer that I can find (up until AD240) taught a further binding of Satan at the second coming. You are trying to foist that upon them without the slightest evidence (or justification) to do so. If it...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics

    Justin did not look for an earthly temporary human kingdom on this earth when Christ comes, but a heavenly one that would cover the new earth. His words cut across the whole modern-day Premillennialist expectation of a restoration of old covenant practices with natural Israel being elevated...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics

    We all believe in the resurrection of the righteous at the second coming. We all believe in a new Jerusalem arriving. We all want a pristine state, Premil cannot provide that, ancient Chiliasm and Amil can. Where is all your Premil tenets? They are not there.
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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    This shows how bereft you are of any credible biblical support. This teaches nothing about your imaginary corrupt future millennium. 1. Where in Matthew 19:28, or anywhere else in Scripture, do you consider definitely corroborate the Premillennial interpretation of Revelation 20 that there are...
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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    This is where premillennialism online has arrived. It has lost the theological debate. Now it is trying to philosophize.
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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    LOL. More noise! No evidence. That is all you have now. How about addressing all the Ops you avoid that expose Premil?
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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    LOL. Don't even talk to us about supporting Scripture with Scripture. You have absolutely nothing to support your opinions of Revelation 20. Nothing, zero, nada! You do not know what biblical corroboration looks like.