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Q. Why must we “remember Lot's wife”? What befell her? She got caught in the escape out of Sodom because her heart was still there. Despite being fully aware of the impending destruction, Lot's wife’s heart was located in Sodom and towards the awful iniquity; this was despite the fact that she...

More noise. The JWs share your beliefs and flawed mode of hermeneutics.

Where do any of the ancient Chiliasts before AD 270 teach the Premil belief of Satan being cast down from heaven at the second coming? Where do any of the ancient Chiliasts before AD 270 teach the Premil belief of the binding of Satan at the second coming? Where do any of the ancient Chiliasts...

Yes, LOL. That could have been "diva Debbie" for short. It read diva D to most of us.

LOL. This is all noise. It is hard to take you serious. Your MO is avoidance - hit and run. The only thing that you have to debunked over this past number of years is your ability to present a strong, biblical and cohesive argument. I cannot remember the last discussion you carried to its...

No problem David. I think you used to go under the name Divad.

Where do any of the ancient Chiliasts before AD 270 teach the Premil belief of Satan being cast down from heaven at the second coming? Where do any of the ancient Chiliasts before AD 270 teach the Premil belief of the binding of Satan at the second coming? Where do any of the ancient Chiliasts...

He cannot address God's Word and you cannot even explain Scripture. He just relays what he has been taught.

How many Amil threads does that happen on? They have no answer. Diva knows he has nothing. That is why he hits and runs.

The Chiliast ECFs were all over the place. They do not reference Rev 20. I think only one of them does that I remember. But not to preach Premil, but Chiliasm.

He already did that 2000 years ago. But you cannot see that. Read what the Word of God teachers about the binding of Satan. Matthew 12:22-29, Mark 3:11, 23-27, Luke 10:18-19, Luke 11:20-22, John 12:31-33 Colossians 2:13-15, Hebrews 2:14-15, I John 3:8, Revelation 9:1-11, Revelation 12:7-9 and...

We all know this. And what is your point? The most striking moment in Revelation 19 is the fact that he destroys all the wicked. There is none survive. That immediately destroys your whole doctrine. All flesh is destroyed. There is no wicked left to overrun the new earth (as in Premil)...

Here we go again. Silence from Diva and all his fellow Premils when a simple rebuttal is given to their error. This is now the pattern. There's not even a challenge anymore. This is a sure sign that the battle has been long-won. Every speculation is easily refuted.

They did. See above.

The unbelieving Jews believed in a future millennium, but it was not one where Satan was able to overrun it at the end. This probably colored early Chiliasts. Although, not surprisingly, none of the early Chiliasts believed in the rebuilding of the temple, the return of blood sacrifices, or none...

The strange thing is: none of the early Chiliasts mention, teach or recognize any corruption, Satan or evil entering their future millennium. It is perfect and pristine (just what all Premils would want). Victorinus was the first of the orthodox writers to teach that the wicked populate a future...

This is the complete opposite to the modern day Premillennial expectation - which is another age like our own full of all the bondage of corruption.

I will ignore your insults. I will keep to the issues. There's nothing that you are quoting that disagrees with what I said. The Chiliasts believed in the future thousand years, but it was perfect and pristine. You fail to see that it was not polluted with all the corruption you force into it...

What? That is the most ridiculous statement i have heard. No. 1, it does not say anywhere in Revelation 20 that this is after the second coming, or is there any biblical corroboration to support that. No. 2, it does not say that Jesus is on earth for these thousand years anywhere, the...

Not true. Those fathers believed more of the Amil fundamentals than modern-day Premil. They anticipated a perfect earth eternally free of sin and sinners, dying and crying, decay and disease, Satan and his demons. Your view blights your millennial earth with all this in abundance. This is...