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  1. Runningman

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    No he wasn’t a sinner. He was a servant in a general sense, but Paul was referring specifically to becoming obedient to death on a cross. Jesus asked that the “cup” pass from him, but what he plainly meant was that he didn’t want to die. No one wants to die, but Jesus became obedient to that...
  2. Runningman

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    yes, scripture is plain that Jesus is God’s chosen servant. By the fact of being chosen indicates that he wasn’t always God’s servant doing God’s work. Think back to who Jesus was before his ministry began. He was himself a builder or carpenter according to Mark 6:3. He was a common man from...
  3. Runningman

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Jesus never sinned, but God has a personal will and mission for Jesus that involved a ministry and crucifixion. God, at times, may require the same of us. Look at Philippians 2:5-11 again and observe such. In any case, Jesus served and obeyed God with his choices. Jesus could have gotten out of...
  4. Runningman

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Hi again Mark. Before we untangle that interpretation, let's cut to the chase and look at where YHWH and Jesus are beside each other in both the same sentence and context and observe how Jesus is not YHWH. We should be able to go directly to the heart of the matter by looking at two verses...
  5. Runningman

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    It's quite simply the same for Jesus as it would be for the Philippians, which is why Paul told them to have the mind of Jesus. Rather than living for themselves and their own interests, they instead live to serve God. Don't you think Jesus could have went off and ran his own show and lived his...
  6. Runningman

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    I disagree with your post, as your commentary goes well beyond what is written in the passage you quoted. Why I responded the way I did was to give you what I believe the correct understanding of it is.
  7. Runningman

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    This passage, beginning with verse 5, is about Paul telling the Philippians what mind to have. People cannot have the mind of an all knowing and all powerful God, but they can have the mind of Jesus because he's a human. What Paul was explaining to them is that the mind of Christ is something...
  8. Runningman

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Let's see who the cursed one is; the words of my God against your religion. When does the Bible say you must believe Jesus is God to be saved? Good luck.
  9. Runningman

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    I do have a real name of course, but Runningman is just my online handle. It can mean a lot of things. I meant it to just be about exercising or the movie The Running Man. How about you sir?
  10. Runningman

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Jesus is not God. As you can see, Jesus is a human and God isn't. I believe you have been deceived, but I know you are just trying to defend what you believe, though you clearly don't understand the Bible. Jesus is a man who God chose, anointed, and empowered; the Bible says so. I didn't write...
  11. Runningman

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Since we know that Jesus received all of his power and authority from God, we know that he was a man who didn't inherently have it. Could God have done the same sort of thing for any other person?
  12. Runningman

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    According to Scripture Jesus is neither God nor the Creator. While it's true that in Hebrew literature there are many senses of the word for "god," not all of them necessarily translate to God Almighty. I have noticed you have gotten way ahead of yourself rather than discuss this calmly and I...
  13. Runningman

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    We can indeed become like Jesus because Jesus isn't God, but rather a man who God chose, empowered, and anointed according to Scripture. The only true God is the Father (John 17:3) but in regards to Jesus, he, like us, can be children of God. People perhaps miss the fact that there is so much...
  14. Runningman

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    If by theosis you mean becoming like Jesus, then yes there is for sure enough material in the New Testament about being conformed to the image of Jesus or being like him. That's essentially what Christianity is.... being like Jesus, believing what he did, do what he did, etc. Yes it's true there...
  15. Runningman

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    I don't think it's quite as bad as that. You can actually escape that. Peter wrote a good passage on it. I highly recommend at least the first two chapter of 2 Peter 1. 2 Peter 1 (KJV) 1Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us...
  16. Runningman

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    I partially don't agree with this. You aren't sinning every moment, every second, are you? I hope not! I think most people prove they can stop sinning right here, right now, even for just a few hours while they sleep. People sin because their desires are evil. This isn't a question aimed at you...
  17. Runningman

    What is YOUR "thorn in the flesh"?

    Legally, Jesus had sin applied to him even though he technically never sinned (2 Cor. 5:21). He received the penalty for sin which is death as you said. But what I would add is that it wasn't just Jesus' body that died, but his soul as well. I get that from Isaiah 53:10.
  18. Runningman

    What is YOUR "thorn in the flesh"?

    Yes, but Jesus needed to be saved from Hades by God. Acts 2 24Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it. 25For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I...
  19. Runningman

    What is YOUR "thorn in the flesh"?

    Jesus was not a sinner of course, he never sinned, but even Jesus was tempted in every way a normal person was yet God cannot be tempted. Hebrews 4 15For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet...
  20. Runningman

    What Is The Difference Between Liberal, Conservative and Fundamentalist Christians?

    Yes absolutely. They had completely different opinions than what those who knew Jesus face to face decided to write about. I think it's because Trinitarianism became the dominant school of thought over time and the gnostic and Unitarian writings either got destroyed as heresy or were lost to...