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If one believes that cannot lost their salvation they may not even be aware they have. So I can understand why someone wouldn't mention it. Even if they did, they might not want to be public about it. It's a deeply personal matter. On that note, yes I have lost my salvation before but God is...

Those who lack genuine relationship with Jesus can still be true believers anointed with miracle power, but have no love for Jesus. Thus it's possible to believe in Jesus and offer lip service by calling him Lord, but not show genuine love by keeping his commandments. Thus they are workers of...

In Matthew 10:1-4, Judas was specifically granted authority to cast out demons and to heal the sick just like the other apostles and that authority was specifically mentioned by Jesus himself as an authority exclusive to believers in Mark 16:17. Based on the internal witness of the Bible, that...

Exactly. This passage is a proof text against limited atonement. It shows that those who are of the supposed “elect” status, true believers with spiritual power, losing their salvation on the grounds of being workers of iniquity. In other words, they became unrepentant sinners. Limited atonement...

But contrary to limited atonement, Judas wasn’t doomed from the get go. The prophecy is that Judas would commit apostasy with the result being he became doomed. In other words, Judas was initially saved and lost his salvation. Prophecy or not, Judas does not conform to the limited atonement...

That’s true, but I believe people try to tell the truth as they know it, whether they be right or wrong, because the truth is worth fighting for. It’s also worth putting away wrong ideas if in our ventures we genuinely discover a misconception we previously had. This isn’t a “my side versus...

Well, what I presented above probably does not only step on the toes of limited atonement, but others as well. However, it says what it says and it's Scriptural none the less.

We were discussing limited atonement in another thread, but I feel like this particular point is slightly off topic from the specific doctrine and is more about an example from the Bible about how limited atonement itself cannot be true. The example I would like to focus on, at least initially...

Question for all the Reformed theologians on this board since @brightfame52 tapped out. Question, if Judas were never a genuine believer, why should Jesus have empowered him to drive out demons in Matt 10:1-4, something he elsewhere says is impossible for an unbeliever in Matt 12:24-28?

You are simply dismissing what was previously shown you from Scripture, which was a strong rebuttal against limited atonement. Question, if Judas were never a genuine believer, why should Jesus have empowered him to drive out demons in Matt 10:1-4, something he elsewhere says is impossible for...

Judas Iscariot was chosen and saved and given with spiritual authority. The evidence from Scripture speaks of Jesus losing Judas, contrary to limited atonement saying he was lost because he was never really saved. Judas is named in Matthew 10:1-4 as one among the Twelve. He was explicitly...

The "Twelve" in the synoptic gospels always refers to the 12 hand-chosen disciples that Jesus chose, which includes Judas. Yes, Judas was directly promised eternal life and and also said to have been lost. Judas was also a believer who was qualified to exercise spiritual gifts. This is all sola...

Yes I can. Judas had miraculous powers because he was a believer. This is explicit in Scripture. Mark 16 17And these signs will accompany those who believe: In My name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; Matthew 10 1And calling His twelve disciples to Him, Jesus gave...

Jesus told Judas directly to his face that he will have eternal life. He lost his salvation. Matthew 19 27“Look,” Peter replied, “we have left everything to follow You. What then will there be for us?” 28Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, in the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man...

You're right. I brought it up earlier in the thread and some interest was shown, but no one directly commented on how it works with limited atonement. I can't find anything from John Calvin ever directly explaining how Judas works out with limited atonement either. There is a powerful argument...

The existence of Judas having been chosen, directly promised eternal life, and then lost creates a plausibility issue for your gospel.

Good point, but when precisely is salvation obtained? I believe there can be the promise of the guarantee of it now, but the Bible also speaks of eternal life as something that comes in the future, post judgement. Why would God give people eternal life and then judge them? I believe God judges...

Christ died for all in the world, but the sin sacrifice is not accessed except for by faith. Trust God that His sinless human messiah was an acceptable sacrifice to atone for sins. Not everyone believes that, but everyone can believe that if they want. They can also choose to stop believing it...

The Bible doesn't use explicit language about salvation either being "universally applicable" or "limited atonement" but it is described repeatedly as conditional and something that can be potentially lost.

Your god is powerless to do anything to save anyone if the gospel is "you must believe in limited atonement." You have a fake god and nothing will happen to me. I will be resurrected for believing in the true gospel. You'll have nothing but shame.