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You are employing several invalid "debate tactics", including ad-hominem, impugning the speaker. I have cited precise and detailed verses, with complete connections; if you could respond showing how I am mis-quoting or mis-understanding the verses, you would. What you clearly state, is "I...

Hi, JohnPaul, welcome. What do you think "born-again" means? In Rom8:15, "we receive the Spirit of adoption by which we cry, Abba! Father!" (Literally, "Daddy!") The word gennao simply means "begotten". John3:7 "you must be born again"; now, 1Jn5:18, born-of-God is begotten-of-God, gennao...

If we endure -- present tense. BUT if we are without -- present tense. Whereof all are partakers -- PAST TENSE. Really? Why did you omit verses 9, and 25?

Tomorrow if you like we'll look up Robertson's commentary on the passage, and on "epignosis" and "epiginosko".

No, it does not -- it is a positive affirmation in the face of "don't-fall-admonition". It's exactly the same as Heb6:9, "brethren, we are convince of better things for you, though we speak like this". Speak like what? Speak of FALLING FROM SALVATION. Do you argue that those in Heb6:4-5 were...

No, "epignosis" conveys experiential knowledge here, as it does in ch1. In verses 20-22 "epiginosko" means the same, experiential. The same words cannot change meanings especially between two chapters. (And ch3 verse 17 is another "do-not-be-deceive-away-from-Jesus".) Chapter 1 warns "make...

No, you haven't -- that is, you have not aligned your thoughs with what Peter actually wrote. To espouse that "they-were-never-truly-saved" (had not actually STARTED believing), is to claim we can "escape defilements/sin apart from Jesus." And Jesus said "apart from Me you can do nothing." And...

Yes; but you broke context. Those "false-never-cease-from-sin brutes, entice the TRULY ESCAPED back INTO sin!" Verse 18! What part of Christianity permits the idea of "escaping sins WITHOUT salvation in Jesus"? If we could do that, why would we need Jesus dying on the Cross? They set their...

James warns us in ch1 to beware of "being tempted by our own lusts; and lust conceived births sin, and sin brings death -- do not be deceived, beloved brethren!" Is he talking to UNSAVED beloved brethren? Is it NOT REALLY thanatos-death-and-Hell? Or somehow is he warning the...

"Endure for a while" -- those in Matt3:20-21 (Mk4:16-17, Lk8:13) -- they BELIEVE JOYFULLY! What would ever convince us "they were never saved"? Catch 22: "If a person ever falls away from the faith, then he was never TRULY saved in the FIRST place!" Unless we apply an external doctrine (the...

I cite precise verses with clear meanings. Meaning no offense, it is easy to say "you ignore the context" or "misquote". But if you perceive that, then you will be able to explain the "correct meaning and context". WHAT??? "Do not HARDEN YOUR HEART, take care BRETHREN lest you be hardened by...

Hi, H2S. The question is asked of you also -- Heb12:7-8 teaches that we WERE partakers/partners in His discipline (any way that could be "not-really-saved"?) --- but if we are NOW WITHOUT His discipline then we are not sons but illegitimate (any way that can be "still saved"?). Verse 9...

We discussed this. How is it I read verses 7-8 and see "we WERE partners (metochos) in His discipline, but if we are NOW WITHOUT His discipline then we are now NOT SONS but ILLEGITIMATE"? If we were subject to His discipline, were we "saved sons"? If we are now without His discipline and are...

And THAT, is the $64,000 question! What is "saved"? In Matt25 Jesus separates the sheep from the goats. What's the difference? What do the sheep have, that the goats don't? Jesus remarks on things they do -- but we know salvation is NOT what we do (Eph2:8, Rom11:6, Titus 3:5, Greek "ergon"...

Not at all; we are discussing what the command of God is in the first place. Do you hold to "limited atonement" (Jesus did not die for all, but only for the few predestined -- a facet of Calvinism)? I perceive atonement is unlimited. How are we enrolled in salvation? Under "Limited...

"Now we are the sons of God ...we shall be like Him". Will you agree that we are "partners in Christ", and "partners in a heavenly calling"? Have you responded to Heb3:12-14? "Take care, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil unbelieving heart that falls away from the living God. But...

We are sons -- but the question is, can we become NOT-sons? What does the parable of the Prodigal Son mean to you? (Lk15:11-32) The Prodigal went to the far land, and began to live licentiously. Some say, "Well he never stopped being a SON, did he?" Yes, there was a time when he was not a...

Please refresh my memory? Thanx...

Sometimes a view is lengthy and sophisticated (like thinking the FALSE escape in 2Pet2). No, the false never escape, but entice the truly-escaped. Reformed Theology is the worst in terms of "complex doctrine", it's an entire structure comprised of at least 61 verses -- it has clean walls...

On what do you base this assessment? On the external principle of, "If they're not saved NOW, then they were never TRULY saved in the FIRST place!" Where is that in Scripture? It's not in 1Jn2:19, which connects to 2Jn1:7-9 --- if someone does not watch himself against deceivers he CAN "go out...