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  1. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    From above... Galatians 5. Yes. Absolutely. Not a command, an exhortation. Again, no need to argue (although you will, of course), but it's because of, GodsGrace ~ as a result of ~ not "how." The only way it can be construed as a "how" is if we state that in the same sense as what he says...
  2. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    That's one of the things we've been discussing, yes, but I think we all agree that it is by the Holy Spirit. If you disagree, then that puts you far outside... mainstream Christianity, at least on that one thing. No, just on its face, this statement is not correct. And yet, as Jesus said to...
  3. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    All I'm saying is ~ and I think this is pretty clear ~ I don't completely understand what you're trying to say. And I think it's a pretty good thing... graceful, really... that I'm not putting words into your mouth... which... happens a lot around here... <smile> Yes. Sure. Grace and peace...
  4. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Became a universalist...? Interesting. Why? Well not if he was a universalist... But yeah... interesting. Synopsis? Grace and peace to you.
  5. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Right, I understand that... I think... I mean, neither actually try to do the things you're attributing to... well, at least some of them, which I guess you would acknowledge. I guess the more common thing to hear is a 60% or 80% Calvinist (three-point or four-point). Total Depravity and/or...
  6. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    @GodsGrace From above... "I supplied a few verses." You did, yes. <smile> "You've supplied none." Ohhhhh, yes I have. Over and over and over again. And here, too... "Salvation is not accepted because one is born again of the spirit." It is. No man will accept something he does not see...
  7. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    @GodsGrace Look at that, I'm tagging you. I hope that makes you happy... LOL! Even if I hadn't, none of this can be classified as "gossip"... <smile> "No "sense" Just not the sense that you like... <smile> But yet it is what it is. "I posted many verses commanding man to SEEK GOD."...
  8. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Very interesting. So explain where you are, Hey You, if you are so inclined. I'd like to continue this conversation... with you, at least... <smile> I've heard of three and four, in addition to five, but 4-point-something... This is rather tongue-in-cheek, so not meant in any kind of...
  9. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Thank you both. But, I'm sure the hard-headedness will continue. Ohhhhhh, look. I was right.... LOL! Grace and peace to you both. And all.
  10. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Yes. I said before (more than once) that it is entirely possible to know all about the Lord without really knowing Him. Which ~ I getcha ~ you know. <smile> Grace and peace to you.
  11. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    As I have said, Calvinism and Arminianism ~ with respect to Arminius's five objections and Calvin's responses to those five objections ~ are mutually exclusive, much in the same way as with Augustine and Pelagius over a thousand years before. Regarding these particular things, they are the two...
  12. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Okay... here... to your lead-in statements: In the sense that he will not, but will naturally be inclined against the things of God, and therefore will follow his natural inclination and will thus will freely reject the things of God... because he is not of God, but of the devil; naturally ~...
  13. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Perish the thought. Unless you're talking about being a member of the one holy, catholic, apostolic Church of Jesus Christ, which I confess to every single Sunday, corporately with the rest of the congregation of the... very mainline... church I attend... <smile> Augustine was not a Catholic...
  14. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    I'm not sure you what you wanted me to say to that, or even if there was some question you were asking me. Perhaps you can clarify. Right, but I did say the Adamic covenant was renewed with Noah. Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth. So really, by speaking about the Noahic covenant...
  15. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    <chuckles> At this point, I have no idea what you're talking about. I highly doubt I didn't reply, but only didn't reply the way you wanted me to. But, I'm freely willing... see what I did there?... to consider that I in fact didn't reply, and ask you to repeat the question, and this time...
  16. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Not his own, really; he credited Augustine as one of the great influences of his understandings of Scripture. Yes, Augustine had his journey to Christ, and his own testimony as to how he was converted to Christ, I'm sure, much as we all do. I mean, yeah, his conversion may even have been as...
  17. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    I did. And I hope you read my explanation, refuting your silly one. <smile> Oh, well thanks! <smile> And if you want to hold on to your false impressions of Reformed theology ~ which means formed again, in the sense that it came out of restoring Christianity and Christ's Church back to its...
  18. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Nope. I'm not going into detail again, because I have several times. Both. Those those whom He foreknew He also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son... And those whom he predestined he also called..." These are Paul's exact words. God did all these things, GodsGrace. And...
  19. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Oh, well, for the... I've lost count, so I'll exaggerate a bit here just to make a point... two hundred and thirty-seventh time? LOL! Grace and peace to you.
  20. PinSeeker

    The Doctrines of Grace

    We Christians ~ Calvinists and Arminians ~ have the prophetic Word more fully confirmed... by God through the work of His Spirit, yes, So, most certainly, no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone’s own interpretation of natural things, but God's. It's His inerrant, infallible, Word, for...