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I see what you're saying now. The Jews of that time equated "the word of God" with God Himself. That has a huge impact on the meaning of John 1. They would never have seen that as a God becoming a man. They were vehemently against such an idea although it was prevalent among the Greeks and the...

You mean change the verses? That's not a good idea. :)

I think I see what you are saying, but I'm still confused. You and I both have the same God, namely the God and Father of Jesus Christ. So I can say, as Jesus said, "...my God and your God..." Wouldn't that mean nothing more than that both of us have the same God? Why would it mean one of is...

It's certainly no secret that according to Orthodox Christian doctrine, Jesus is God. That brings up an interesting question, one that I've not been able to sort out. Paul and Peter said multiple times that Jesus had a God and Jesus himself said the same thing. John 20:17, Jesus saith unto...

How would you suggest we make 1 Thess 5:23 agree with Gen 2:7?

You're right! Gen 2:7, And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. It's plain in the very beginning that God did not create man's body and put a soul into it. Man was a living soul. Man was a living...

Sounds good. What is the 7th Kingdom? It's something new to me.

I trust you are born again as I am. In the overall scheme of things that is the most important. The rest will be sorted out and made plain when Jesus comes back. Of course if you are right, we don't have to wait until Jesus comes back. Still, I can't help be wonder if it's the latter, why will...

I'll just go over the thief on the cross with Jesus. The rest you quoted can be explained in such a way that they agree with the several clear verses I quoted that say the dead are really dead, but they require a bit more background and an open mind which admittedly is very difficult in light of...

Have you ever looked at Greek philosophy and Egyptian myths regarding soul and compared it to church doctrine? They are virtually identical. Of course that in and of itself is no proof that the church got it's doctrine from them. However, if you compare what the Bible says about the dead (take...

Paul actually said we are not to mourn our dead brothers and sisters because, "...the dead in Christ shall rise..." For the dead to rise they have to be dead. The word "shall" means sometime in the future. In this case it's when Jesus comes back to gather us together. Until then, the dead are...

Those guys are an exception to the rule about death clearly laid out in Ps 88:10, 115:17, Ecc 9:5-6, and others? Something's not right about that. Well, again, I think that's pretty much what the serpent told Eve. It also agrees with Greek philosophy and Egyptian mythology. I think the whole...

Well, the Greek philosophers and ancient Egyptians would agree with that. That's not the company I want to keep though. Going to heaven upon death would not be a bad thing at all, certainly not an enemy. And yet God calls death exactly that; an enemy (1 Cor 15:26). One thing for sure, we'll...

Both are true? I think Jesus said the devil was a liar from the beginning. I'm don't think anybody can actually see a soul. Given that a soul can't literally be seen, I'd say Rev 6:9 is a figure of speech. That section begins in Revelation 4 and it begins with the statement that a door in...

Gen 2:16-17, 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Gen 3:4, And the serpent said unto...

I'm not sure you understand what I was saying. Yes, the second coming is a series of events that occur over a period of time. I see it beginning with Jesus gathering Christians, both dead and alive, with him in the clouds. That marks the beginning of the 7 year tribulation. Since we will be with...

Adam and Eve were created perfect. God said they'd die if they disobeyed. The devil said they wouldn't really die. I think that's a good starting point for understanding death. Regarding the meaning of being asleep, 1 Thess 5:5-7, 5 for you are all sons of light, and sons of the day. We are...

I see what you are saying, although I don't see it that way. "Them" in verse 17 is a pronoun. A pronoun refers to its nearest antecedent which in this case is the risen dead in Christ from verse 16. It works that way in Greek and English. When seen this way there is no contradiction with the...

True. But how about the very next verse? 1Thess 4:17, Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. While we will be with Jesus in the clouds. Exactly what that mean, I don't know...

Not saying you are wrong, but where did you get that idea? Here's a couple of verses that seem to say something different: 1 Cor 15:52, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed...