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Let’s also be honest with this. my faith is very secure. My faith is unwavering. My faith does not require me to try to change the genre of texts, or ignore reality. It’s not my faith that is unstable. It’s the faith of those that reject sound biblical hermeneutics in order to make the text...

You stayed this. “The major questions of life: Who we are; where did we come from; how did life begin; what is our purpose; where are we going; what happens after death; is there a God and if so, what does He expect from us? “ That’s you’re questions. That’s not mine and that’s not the...

So you were trying to merge chemical evolution and abiogenesis with the theory of evolution concerning speciation. I was clarifying the differences. More than once actually. So obviously there is no biological processes before abiogenesis because biological implies living organisms. But...

so El and Elohim are both used. Strong's Hebrew: 410. אֵל (el) -- God, in pl. gods so you recognize that El did. It create darkness. So it’s eternal as well. In the same way , ancient Jewish people viewed the sea. A eternal force of chaos

That’s definitely part of it. I’ll eventually get around the posting the rest of it. It just takes a hour or so to write it out. But in a nutshell the sea represented chaos. Even shares the same root words. The sea represented death. The flood. Baby hebrews cast into the Nile. Sea monsters like...

Actually I presented the biblical view because it’s the view taught and understood by the people who originally wrote and read it. it’s your modern view that completely misses what the original audience wrote and believed. This is not an opinion. That’s a fact.

I’m saying that according to ancient Jewish people, and the book of genesis, their story opens up with a universe that has its cosmology rooted in their Mesopotamian paradigm. That to the authors of genesis prior to creation everything was this chaotic dark sea void of life until Yahweh...

Not really. At least not for me. You’ll notice that response was shared a few times and I’ve countered it. By all means say what you want. But it’s a relatively very weak argument that only works with modern presumptions. It’s why I also ask “ when was darkness created or was darkness simply a...

The only ignorance are those who arrogantly answer without being open enough to study all sides. but to be clear, I don’t think he created wster period in the story. The water was simply always there just like darkness.

well not water. But it specifically says no sea in revelation 21. It never mentions the creation of water. It opens ups with the watery void already being there. what day do you think el created darkness or is darkness just a byproduct of no light?

Here are a few links to a few good books and podcasts on this subject. Books. “Commentary of the Torah” by Richard Friedman. “Lost World of Genesis 1” by John Walton. Lost Word of the Flood” by John Walton. “ Genesis for Normal People” by Pete Enns and Jared B. “The Bible and Ancient...

So I’ll now begin to do a set of posts to cover specific aspects of this thread and then afterwards I’ll go back to responding to others. The first aspect I want to highlight is the genre of genesis 1. When reading genesis you’ll notice that chapters 1-11 seemingly belong together and flow...

What you are doing is citing one form of adaptation. I don’t even know what you’re trying to argue… I pointed out adaptation is the same thing as evolution. That you don’t typically see adaptations , as used in biology for morphology to refer to plant growth like you are using it . Adaptation...

I think its obvious that water was not created because of what ancient Jewish people believed about chaotic waters. It’s modern readers they try to make the text scientific in nature as opposed to telling a story of chaotic waters being organized. But later on I’ll go more in detail and walk...

The waters of the cosmos was not the sea. The sea was when the waters were separated from the cosmos. Before that the entire universe was water and darkness according to genesis 1:1-3. “ Tohu wabohu “ is the term for chaotic waters. anyways, I’ve said enough for the time being and headed out...

I don’t believe in a 6k year old universe but one that is several billion years old. Just shy of 14 billion years as far as we can tell and possibly just one of a infinite number of multiverses.

Yes. I shared it already. How do you know water was already present? Do you think it’s possible because you’re a modern person living in this day and age you’re reading into the text versus seeing how ancient Jewish people read it? when we filter everything though echo chambers and try to...

How do to know he already created stars? How do you know the void was space? When it says he separated the waters later on? Have you considered the work by Old Testament biblical scholars such as Pete Enns, Tim Mackie /‘d John Walton who has all wrote books on genesis 1? or compared it to what...

So can you show in the text what day? Or do you just have to presume that in order for it to fit your predetermined beliefs? Have you ever looked at the work done by any scholars?

So you believe that the waters were created on the second day? when I read genesis 1 I see this. Genesis 1 New American Standard Bible 1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 And the earth was a formless and desolate emptiness, and darkness was over the surface of the...