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  1. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    I edited my reply. Check it out. BTW, I have no personal issue with you either. Even then, being on the other side of fence, I think much of what you've said is not according to the truth. But I am confused about something you said. On the one hand you say you respect one's right to a...
  2. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Technically, that's right! More likely the Greek though.
  3. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Like I had any to begin with in your eyes? However, I have to offer you my gratitude for pointing out I need to be more careful about what I say in the future. Maybe quick and dirty is not the way to go. I'll keep that in mind Thanks! Still all things considered, the main point of my OP was...
  4. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Assuming the "it" is replacement theology, I got the following from Wiki: "Supersessionism, also called replacement theology,[1] is the Christian doctrine that the Christian Church has superseded the Jewish people, assuming their role as God's covenanted people,[2] thus asserting that the New...
  5. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    OK. BTW, coventee pointed out that I was mis-peslling Origen's name. It's not Origin.
  6. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    That's some pretty creative allegory that changes the plain sense so as to fit with his idea.
  7. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Hermes is not my source for truth. Hermes says...vs Yahweh says... I choose the later. BTW, I trust you noticed 1) I said Origen was one of the first. I qualified there were others, but it was Origen that made it popular. 2) I said my OP was quick and dirty. There are many other, such as those...
  8. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Tertullian is not my source for truth either.
  9. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Good stuff, but Barnabas is not my source for truth.
  10. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Yes. Thanks. I guess I was spelling by sound. :) Right again. Same idea though. Well, there are many variations of replacement theology, but I think a fairly common tenant is that the the church is the spiritual Israel and inheritors of the kingdom which is presently in heaven instead of on...
  11. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    I kind of thought you might be kidding around. :)
  12. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Yes. Sometimes it can make a point. Now there's a great example of passive aggressive. And, although I disagree with it, you did make your point.
  13. Rich R

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    Very well put. I'll think about what you said about Luke 13 and Hosea 6. Off the top of my head it sounds good. I also did a quick glance at your website. I read the articles on God's Plan for Mankind. Good stuff brother!
  14. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Isa 55:10a, For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven... Rain does not come from clouds as you said. "Jesus wept" means that God sent manna from heaven. strs
  15. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    I'll eagerly await your return home. And, yes, if you can provide any credible evidence that anything I said is a glaring error, the OP is gonzo!
  16. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    So you found something that says Origin wasn't one of the first to employ the allegorical method? Where is it? I'll have a look. And how pray tell do you know I haven't read Origin's works? I actually have. In his "Dialogue with Tyrpho" it is glaringly obvious that he held a low opinion of the...
  17. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Hmmmm...interesting take there, but I still take the radical approach of saying that John meant to say Jesus wept.
  18. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    I'll make you a deal. Find me just one citation that says that Origin was not one of the first to use the allegorical method of interpreting scripture and I'll remove the OP. Fell free to use the ECFs.
  19. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    I've heard of internet trolls but never really knew what they are. I just now looked it up. Here's what I found on howtogeek.com: "An internet troll is someone who makes intentionally inflammatory, rude, or upsetting statements online to elicit strong emotional responses in people or to steer...
  20. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    That does look to be a pretty good website. Looks very extensive. I bookmarked it. One thing about it though was that there is no way to search through the material. For example, there was no quick way to determine if Origin was one of the first to use the allegorical method to interpret the...