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Could you be more specific as to which part is not true? Haven't studied them at all. This is the first time I heard about it. I'll check it out though This is something like the 50th post I've made backing up my claims. How much more should I do? Have you seen me quote from any website at...

There aren't two new covenants. That's my point. But it seems you may be saying there are two new covenants, one made to Israel in Jeremiah and some other new covenant Jesus was making at the last supper that now was being made with the church. So one to Israel (clearly declared in Jeremiah)...

Got it! I misunderstood you at first. Thanks for the clarification. I like the succinctness of how you describe allegory.

Yes, but which New Covenant? The one in Jeremiah 31:31 that was promised to Israel and which they would have read and anticipated, or one that was supposedly promised to a future church about which they would have had absolutely no knowledge?

Wait a second there! It's not your decision. Covenantee said it was mine to make and I deferred to him. :)

I'll defer and let you make the decision. hlo

Romans 9 and Romans 11 have different contexts. And Romans 11 has different contexts within itself. Rom 11:7, What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded Here we see two different people: the election, the...

I could misunderstand your post, but I as far as I can tell, I think it is fairly premillenial. Of course there is always the problem of exactly what the terms "amillenial" and "premillenial" actually mean. It seems as though there is a lot of variations of each in the minds of those who hold...

First of all, I will speak to what I think you are saying. I want to acknowledge that I may misunderstand some of what you said. If so, let me know. If that is all true about the church being spiritual Israel, then God made it nigh to impossible for 99% of Christians to see that the church is...

Try to image you were sitting at the table with Jesus when he uttered those words. Furthermore, try to imagine you were intimately familiar with Jeremiah (any good Jew would know Jeremiah). When Jesus mentioned a "new covenant", where do think your mind may have gone? Maybe Jeremiah 31? After...

Let's take a look at the verse: Rom 11:26, And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: Does it say Israel will be saved through Faith in Christ Alone? Not the way I read it. To me it says, "There...

Well, I think the church is devil Israel. It doesn't matter that it's not in the text. That's just what I think it means.

Good question. Obviously hating God is a sin. Jer 31:34, And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and...

It just means all Israel, not part of it. I know I just quoted one verse, but it would really help you to read the whole chapter to get the context.

Well, the earliest texts don't vary from the KJV, so there's no mistake in the Bible. I never really said what "all Israel" meant. I'm not sure why it would need a commentary. I assumed everyone knew the meaning of the words "all" and "Israel."

Read all of Romans 11, noting particularly, Rom 11:26, And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: All I did was quote that verse. How is that preaching a false Gospel? Is all Israel saved now? I...

I never meant to deny a second coming. If I did, it was unintentional. I fully believe in a second coming. It seems their is whole doctrine is built around the concept of a "spiritual Jew." Since, the actual term is nowhere to be found in the scripture, it must be inferred. The problem with...

The Jews or Gentiles can accept Jesus and be saved now. But if they don't God has another plan for them, which is outlined in Romans 11. Rom 11:26, And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: If...

Very true. It is in the present tense. That's precisely why this verse is using the prophetic future. as indicated by the fact that Jer 31:31 (or the whole chapter) has not come to pass. The purpose of the prophetic future figure of speech is to show the certainty of some future action. Ooops...

The new covenant mentioned in Jeremiah 31:31, which covenant will be made with Israel. I've also said multiple that it's obvious that the things that new covenant consist of is in the rest of that chapter, and as such it is clear that none of it has come to pass. I think I've been consistent in...