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I don’t particularly mind what doctrinal belief he holds to in regards to Israel. I’m troubled by the fact that he claims Christ but rejects the sort of attitude Christ calls us to in our representation of him. But, I suppose there’s not much I can do…ultimately it’ll be between him and God…if...

Wow. So, the big idea here is that non-Christians deserve to be insulted, and that Christians don’t HAVE feelings! That rather makes you free with your words and justifications, doesn’t it? Too bad neither are true and neither can be backed up by scripture. I think you’re rather missing the...

Don’t worry…I wasn’t suggesting Dispensationalist was like a cult that you ‘follow’. One ‘follows’ a teaching…or subscribes to it, or believes it is most accurate. Any number of ways you could describe it, I suppose. We all have systems of doctrine we actively choose to follow or believe. Our...

I’m aware of the debate. But…I think it’s mostly moot. Let’s say that the tree itself is Christ. Or that the nourishing root is Abraham and not Christ…do we not still end up in the same place? Consider: if Christ is the tree…all that believe in him are grafted on. Romans 11 tell us it is faith...

But….how is that a separate ‘plan’? If their future salvation is just them accepting Christ as Messiah, that means that all that’s happening is that they’re being grafted back onto the tree. Which is the body of Christ. Which is the church. Which fundamentally means that we are all the same...

Can you show me where Paul says that Israel will be nationally designated in the future? Interested to see if I’ve missed something. Thanks.

Well…I sort of tried to explain the idea of ‘separating’ versus ‘combining’ in my first post to you. Basically the idea is that every scholar and clued in bible reader understands that when we read the Gospel accounts, we combine them. Every gospel is slightly different, yes? But…just like...

Why would I say that? Are YOU saying that because Abraham…and every deceased faithful Jew/Christian after him and up until this moment…are currently in heaven that they cannot be a part of the Church? Let’s remember a few key facts. The “church” is just the members of Christ’s body…those found...

Hey marks! Well…it’s just following the metaphor used in scripture…and pushed to the logical end should one follow Dispensationalism. I’ll try and explain…. Dispensationalists see a future ‘separate’ program for the Jewish people. Yes, they must come to Christ for salvation…but still…it is...

I think Romans 11 is…up for debate, on whether or not ‘all Israel’ is the collective whole of ‘spiritual Israel’ or if Paul truly does see a future in gathering of Jewish Nationals again. I can see it either way. The first is certainly true regardless of how you look at it. And the second? It...

Sugar coating. Is that what you think it is? I wonder if you hear yourself at all. Speaking truth is different than from calling people names. And as for “why should you”? Well, considering you ‘embrace’ Luke 10:27 and yet completely ignore it at the same time, I’m not sure what good telling you...

Forgive me if I misunderstood you or misrepresented me, that was not my intent. I was, maybe in clumsy fashion, attempting to explain that if Pre-trib was the ‘only’ system that one could arrive at when one implemented a process of elimination, then either many people are idiotic and can’t do...

There were several issues that led me to believe that Dispensationalism was unsupportable in light of scripture. The strength and length Paul goes to to stress the unity among all believers, regardless if they are Jew or Gentile, was one of them. It always baffles me speaking to...

Saves us to what?? Luke 10:27 And he answered, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself.” Do you think the above passage sounds like Christ calls us to call people “deluded...

Although…should one believe that the Ezekiel 38 prophecy is speaking of Russia (Magog=Russia), then wouldn’t we say that invading Israel is not necessarily Putin’s idea alone? God says he will put the idea in ‘Gog’s’ head…yank him down with a hook in his jaw. In other words…from a logical...

All well said. I too was introduced to Dispensationalism at an early age. Via my Grandparents…so I’m inclined to be somewhat fond of it all…even if I can’t see much of it in scripture. I think a large part of the problem…not strictly with the system itself (that would take a much longer...

This is of interest to me, because as far as I can tell, there is little difference between ‘reformed’ and ‘Dispensational’ when it comes to certain aspects of the Israel/Church relationship, and yet somehow the end conclusion is vastly different. Let me explain what I mean. We tend to both...

Mmmm…unfortunately the bible doesn’t come in convenient numbers that can be added in such black and white ‘wrong and right’ answers. Now…if your numbers were perhaps algebra values…of those weird little squiggles that math nerds can somehow work with…that might be more accurate to what you’re...

I think this is actually an important question. Not….that I think all views might ALL happen…I’m not sure that’s entirely supportable by scripture. However, I have often…and frequently, thought that the current systems, as they stand, are wanting. Each one has points of strength and...

Huh…That’s quite an interesting read!