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  1. jeffweeder

    POSTRIB RAPTURE. A BIBLE ONLY VIEW

    I like to quote what he said. 33 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away. 34 “But be on guard, so that your hearts are not weighed down and depressed with the giddiness of debauchery and the nausea of self-indulgence and the worldly worries of life, and then that day...
  2. jeffweeder

    POSTRIB RAPTURE. A BIBLE ONLY VIEW

    Whether your dead in Christ or living, Our resurrection and change (glorification) happens when the heavens are no more. Job 14.
  3. jeffweeder

    POSTRIB RAPTURE. A BIBLE ONLY VIEW

    Does the tribulation occur before the heavens pass away on the last day?
  4. jeffweeder

    POSTRIB RAPTURE. A BIBLE ONLY VIEW

    :I know: Where to start. There are so many. Lets start with...... Job 14 10 “But [the brave, strong] man must die and lie face down; Man breathes his last, and where is he? 11 “As water evaporates from the sea, And a river drains and dries up, 12 So man lies down and does not rise [again]...
  5. jeffweeder

    No mortals will survive the second coming of Christ

    He undermines the clear spiritually discerned words of Jesus in Matt 13 and 25 and relies on his own interpretation of Ezekiel , Zechariah , Revelation etc. I just do not understand why people do that. Jesus clearly knew of these scriptures when he spoke and taught on his coming and the end of...
  6. jeffweeder

    No mortals will survive the second coming of Christ

    The redeemed are the NJ, caught up in the air to possess the place prepared which is the NHNE. Rev 21 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away (vanished), and there is no longer any sea. 2 And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming...
  7. jeffweeder

    No mortals will survive the second coming of Christ

    As if people will not come from the north or south. The redeemed come from all nations. Revelation 5:9 And they sang a new song [of glorious redemption], saying, “Worthy and deserving are You to take the scroll and to break its seals; for You were slain (sacrificed), and with Your blood You...
  8. jeffweeder

    No mortals will survive the second coming of Christ

    Seriously, it is saying they will come from all nations. . That would be the Jerusalem that is above in the Kingdom of Heaven, In other words it is the place prepared from the foundation of the earth (matt 25) .... Eden. So we are looking at the NHNE and the New Jerusalem 22 But you have...
  9. jeffweeder

    No mortals will survive the second coming of Christ

    That is not what those scriptures are saying happens to the nations when he comes again. They suffer eternal separation and damnation. Matt 25 31 “But when the Son of Man comes in His glory and majesty and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32 All the nations...
  10. jeffweeder

    No mortals will survive the second coming of Christ

    Jesus comes to receive us unto himself when he comes again to resurrect and change those who have believed. No need to catch public transport Lol. They will come from east and west to meet him in the air. Abraham will even be there.
  11. jeffweeder

    No mortals will survive the second coming of Christ

    Jesus sends forth his Angels at his 2nd coming to remove the wicked out of his Kingdom and throw them into the fire. The righteous then inherit the kingdom prepared from the foundation of the world. 41 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things...
  12. jeffweeder

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    For me I found Amill in the NT. Honestly. I was Amill without knowing it, being unfamiliar to the premill, post mill, amill debate. I always believed what Jesus said about his coming, especially Matt 25. It ends with God's intervention in human affairs for judgment and removal of all the...
  13. jeffweeder

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    How can it not be the trib period??? It runs to the very end of the age. 9 “Then they will hand you over to [endure] tribulation, and will put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name. 10 At that time many will be offended and repelled [by their association with...
  14. jeffweeder

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Back up a few verses and you should see that believers are encouraged not to sleep as the day of his coming like a thief approaches. That means we are all still here not taken away. I will highlight below, Now as to the times and dates, brothers and sisters, you have no need for anything to be...
  15. jeffweeder

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    After the restraining, satan goes forth in all power of deception and the second coming puts all this to an end. 2 Now in regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to meet Him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to be quickly unsettled or alarmed either by a...
  16. jeffweeder

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Yep, it is clearly a false hope. Matt 24 kjv 9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. 10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11 And many false prophets...
  17. jeffweeder

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Yes, at his coming...Amill. When do you think it is?
  18. jeffweeder

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Makes no difference, he and satans activity are put to an end after the restraint. 2Thess 2 kjv 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working...
  19. jeffweeder

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    2thess 2 8 Then the lawless one [the Antichrist] will be revealed and the Lord Jesus will slay him with the breath of His mouth and bring him to an end by the appearance of His coming. 9 The coming of the [Antichrist, the lawless] one is through the activity of Satan, [attended] with great...
  20. jeffweeder

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    2Thess 1 3 We ought always and indeed are morally obligated [as those in debt] to give thanks to God for you, brothers and sisters, as is fitting, because your faith is growing ever greater, and the [unselfish] love of each one of you toward one another is continually increasing. 4 Therefore...