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  1. dad

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    As far as applying that to the future. The assemblies of various ages are not all those who are in Christ. If the word church to you means believers in Jesus, then obviously the Jews in the desert were not the church. If church just means (as it is meant to here) believers in God, then fine. If...
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    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    You clearly do not know what you are talking about and do not understand the verses you spam here.
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    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    That applies to the future. The Rapture is more immediate. In other words the believers in Jesus dead and alive (commonly called the church) will go up in the air together. Then, if those of us who think we do not have an appointment with the wrath of God on earth are right, untold millions of...
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    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    Point? The called out ones are actually people God called out. The thief on the cross was called out. He never 'congregated in public' I think being His saved sheep and called out is a clear and simple thing. The people that got saved after Jesus came are the called out ones we usually call...
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    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    Spamming a bunch of verses with no church mentioned and inserting the word church willy nilly is actually not refuting anything. As for the Rapture, the thread here is about your supposed proof that a pre wrath Rapture 'contradicts scripture'. It is you that have well and truly failed here so...
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    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    Well you pointed to a group from a heaven scene that you said must be the church. There is no overt timing for the resurrection of the believers that I noticed in Revelation. Either way, for a pre wrath or not. That neuters any possible point you have. The believers are on earth in that time...
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    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    Not so much as mentioned actually No, you inject that meaning. Nothing like that is in the bible Believers are saints in the church. They were saints before the church existed and there will be saints after we're gone You made that up. No mention of church there in reality And so will the...
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    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    There is nothing in there either that says the Rapture will not happen. Neither is fiction just because the timing is not layed out for that event in Rev. No mention after chapter 3. No. To them that have an ear let them hear. Name one Why mention dead garbage? The believers from those...
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    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    The return of Jesus with the saints is apparently what you call the third coming. That is pretty clear where that is. Need I do your homework for you on that? As for the meeting in the air before that time, it is not the book of Revelation we would look to for overt reference to that. However...
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    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    Where is it in a kellog's cereal box? Why must the resurrection of believers be in every chapter? Especially when we are talking AFTER the millennium!?
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    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    The time frame is crystal clear in Rev 20. That event (first resurrection) is after the 1000 years are over. Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. A lot happens before that. The Rapture, the second...
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    In Peleg's days, the EARTH was divided

    Some include the land division. But it doesn't matter what they think. The word could include a lot of things and is not restricted to customs or tongues etc. What is known is that the continents did separate/divide sometime in history. That much we know. So if history started with Adam and...
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    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    You are welcome to comment intelligently on the topic
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    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    That is a passage about our rapture. Congrats on getting some scripture that is on target here. Too bad it has no timing as you allude to here. Ha
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    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    When they see that event, THEN those people should boogie on out of there pronto. NOTHING to do with the long past rapture, sorry. I am amazed you would post such an unrelated verse.
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    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    He never said the great tribulation. Many agree that this seems likely. However if the rapture is before the seven years and the antichrist is not revealed until later, why would we expect to see that guy? Till the rapture! However the people of the tribulation will know the days because we...
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    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    You said this " You have no idea what you are talking about. Zero idea. " perhaps dealing with specifics might be better than your personal attacks. For example, show the research you pretend to have on something. :)
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    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    You have empty words and an opinion that is wicked.
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    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    It is evil to call compassion for victims (many whom are children) of mass murder 'antisemetic'! That is a violation of truth and language and meaning of words. It is also justifying the wicked and calling evil good and being a reproach to the cause.l
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    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    OK, and so why post that here? Did I disagree with this? The final wrath. The whole seven years is also wrath I would contend. Those who? The folks on earth. The Raptured are already saved and gone and even returned with Jesus! As for the extra days after He returns, that is a matter of...