No, but rather a reminder that "the words are spirit" and must be "spiritually discerned."
Is it possible to be SCRIPTURALLY CORRECT AND NOT BE SPIRITUALLY CORRECT?
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IOW, the Bible doesn't mean what it says!
Revelation 20:10
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
Ronald Nolette
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Matthew 4:4
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
2 Timothy 3:16-17
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16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
In order to live right one must know how to live and that comes from :
2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Bob Estey
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The Bible does says women can't speak in a church, whatever the reason. If people believe the Bible is the Word of God, then I would have to believe they wouldn't let women speak in a church.
Lots of unbelievers quote Scriptures they like. But they don't like the ones Jesus said about Hell Fire.
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That is not the context or point of the Original Post.
The point rather is to learn from the mistakes of the Priests and Pharisees of Jesus' time, of being knowledgeable of the scriptures, but not able to recognize Jesus as Messiah.
Your original answer was good and correct. But perhaps you are missing the point--that the words often have greater meaning as a foreshadowing or as prophecy. Which things are hidden from the natural man, thus resulting in the failure of learned men to precieve the greater massage from God. Such as was the case with the Priests and Pharisees knowing the scriptures but not precieving who Jesus was.
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Is that meant to be an accusation, a witness against me? If so, spit it out, let your position be fully known, rather than possibly being misunderstood.
Bob Estey
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If you believe that the Bible is the Word of God, the Bible says women can't speak in a church.
If you believe the Word of God is those instances God and Jesus are quoted, then you can accept the fact that Paul might have been wrong occasionally.
No, Paul's words are not his own. The entire word of God is inspired by God for His own purpose regardless of any servant's immediate circumstances or need. It's both. Thus, David speaking out of his own sorrow and desperation also prophesied the crucifixion of Christ. It is that Godly, spiritual connection that makes Christ the Son of David. It's both, and for that reason--not true of men alone or of mere literature, that Paul was not wrong, but was more importantly a word from God. And in keeping with what Paul also spoke of regarding one uttering a word from God and another interpreting, I have explained it to you. Just as these things were written, so they have occurred.
Bob Estey
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If Paul's words aren't his alone, then God said women can't talk when they are in a church.
That is exactly right! But do you understand that just as Paul also referred to husbands and wives, saying that he was actually speaking about Christ and the church (as Bride and Groom), he was referring to the Bride being silent?
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Nothing meant to be personal. I'm very tired of people picking the parts of the Bible they like and rejecting the parts they don't like, like the everlasting fire that Jesus clearly warned us about. Picking and choosing is RAMPANT on 'Christian' sites! Which is the same as creating god to please themselves. And thereby chopping their own names from the Book of Life!
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Ronald Nolette
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Well that is being a religious person with no spiritual connection to the Word. One must be both!
You cannot spiritually discern if you have no biblical knowledge and you cannot know the truth of the Word with out the Holy spirit.
It is never an either/or but a both/and.
I'll take that as: No you do not understand that there was a greater meaning meant to apply to all the Church (as if women being the "bride" of Christ).
However, if you will or care to notice, 1 Corinthians is a message to "all who in every place call on the name of Jesus Christ our Lord" (1 Corinthians 1:2)...not just those local women. Which is the greater message for those who have ears to hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
Okay--as history has away of repeating and because of foretold strong delusion, what would you say those knowledgeable of the scriptures are likely, likewise now missing among the gentile churches?
Bob Estey
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When Paul says that women are not allowed to speak in church, I would take that to mean that he doesn't think women should speak in church.
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