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[HisLife]

Yeah, it's "us and them." Eh?

Of course This Isn't a playground, Those that Believe in Jesus And Those that Don't

 

[HisLife]

The scriptures declare that the power of God is available to all who would live in righteousness. It's your choice

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believes, If you Want to live In Denial To feel safer it's also your choice

 

[justbyfaith]

You Cut the "It was all sin" to Say I said you Didnt Believe in Jesus, Why did you do that

I didn't see that part...and for all I know you added that in later with an edit.

Why did you cut me off mid-sentence and say i said, Friend it was only yesterday you told me you didn't Believe, Was It because I proved it, so its your dodging tactic

Are you trying to hit me with something that I would have to try and dodge it in order to keep safe? Then dodge it I shall.

Should I consider you as a friend or as an enemy that you are trying to hit me with something?

 

[HisLife]

I didn't see that part...and for all I know you added that in later with an edit.



Are you trying to hit me with something that I would have to try and dodge it in order to keep safe? Then dodge it I shall.

Should I consider you as a friend or as an enemy that you are trying to hit me with something?

Post #1394 is unedited, Your Lying Again, I'm fine with enemy I don't trust you

 

[justbyfaith]

Post #1394 is unedited, Your Lying Again, I'm fine with enemy I don't trust you

You may be my enemy but I am not your enemy.

Jesus told me to love my enemies and to pray for those who persecute me.

So, I am going to be praying for you.

Just giving you a heads up.

 

[HisLife]

You may be my enemy but I am not your enemy.

Jesus told me to love my enemies and to pray for those who persecute me.

So, I am going to be praying for you.

Just giving you a heads up.

You Just Got Caught Lying I said I don't trust you, How are you persecuted, Jesus warned to beware of hypocrisy and you are a hypocrite, You are faking it and you know it

 

[BarneyFife]

You Just Got Caught Lying I said I don't trust you, How are you persecuted, Jesus warned to beware of hypocrisy, You are faking it and you know it

And you are putting forth the finger.

 

[HisLife]

And you are putting forth the finger.

Putting forth proof it is all there, Calling a spade a spade, He is the one that pushes if he lies he gets hell, Tough consequences if there own measure is measured to them

 

[Ronald Nolette]

We fulfill the dietary requirement on behalf of those whose consciences would be affected if we were to indulge in the breaking of the food laws.

1Co 8:8, But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse.

Rom 15:1, We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.
Rom 15:2, Let every one of us please his neighbour for his good to edification.

so you don't eat shellfish then or fish without scales or animals without split hooves?

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Because they just don't apply to my situation. For example, I don't crap on the ground. I don't own a field. And I don't own any servants.

But they are part of the Mosaic Law and you say we should uphold it!

You can't literally uphold a law that governs something you literally do not possess. An example that makes this clear is men have no obligation to literally uphold a law of Moses that governs the monthly period of a woman. But like I said before, even though a law doesn't apply to us specifically, we may still glean a spiritual application out of it. An application that gets upheld again by faith in Christ.

So how do you obey the dietary laws of the Mosaic Law by walking by the Spirit?

Those laws find their fulfillment in regard to the spiritual principle they point to. This is how you uphold it.....

1 Corinthians 5:11
11But now I am writing you not to associate with anyone who claims to be a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a verbal abuser, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.

If you can't make the correlation between unclean foods and unclean people, read Acts 11:5-12. Unclean foods represent unclean influences, particularly people. When we make conscious decisions to keep unclean influences, particularly people, out of our lives we are upholding various dietary laws in the law of Moses. Using Acts 11:5-12 to discern this is a good example of how we discern from the Bible itself how our faith upholds the various laws of Moses, not breaks them. It's not a guessing game. It's a matter of educated discernment. The Bible itself gives us the discernment into what laws are still to be literally kept (in some form or another), and which ones have found their complete and total fulfillment through the work of Christ on our behalf such that no further action regarding those is required from us.

 

[Brakelite]

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believes, If you Want to live In Denial To feel safer it's also your choice

Is erecting straw men your only form of response? Your scripture quote above agrees with my post you quoted. The gospel is absolutely a thing of power... God's power to save... But you short change what God is capable of. And you completely misunderstand what He wants for you.
What is it about so many Christians today that search for theological excuses for holding on to sin?
Even to the point of claiming those who do not want to sin are somehow heretics???!!!

 

[Brakelite]

You can't literally uphold a law that governs something you literally do not possess. An example that makes this clear is men have no obligation to literally uphold a law of Moses that governs the monthly period of a woman. But like I said before, even though a law doesn't apply to us specifically, we may still glean a spiritual application out of it. An application that gets upheld again by faith in Christ.


Those laws find their fulfillment in regard to the spiritual principle they point to. This is how you uphold it.....

1 Corinthians 5:11
11But now I am writing you not to associate with anyone who claims to be a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a verbal abuser, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.

If you can't make the correlation between unclean foods and unclean people, read Acts 11:5-12. Unclean foods represent unclean influences, particularly people. When we make conscious decisions to keep unclean influences, particularly people, out of our lives we are upholding various dietary laws in the law of Moses. Using Acts 11:5-12 to discern this is a good example of how we discern from the Bible itself how our faith upholds the various laws of Moses, not breaks them. It's not a guessing game. It's a matter of educated discernment. The Bible itself gives us the discernment into what laws are still to be literally kept (in some form or another), and which ones have found their complete and total fulfillment through the work of Christ on our behalf such that no further action regarding those is required from us.

Have you considered that the reason why God gave Israel dietary laws was because He wanted them healthy and not getting sick as they were eating the food of Egypt? Those laws weren't arbitrary to satisfy God's ego or sense of power. He wants us to be healthy. To be at the peak of our capabilities in order to glorify Him in our lives. Eating bacon (which even scientists declare isn't food) and other meat products that God says are unclean is nothing but a long way to death. Unclean is a synonym for unhealthy. In some cases such as shellfish, poisonous.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

From post #1391

Jeremiah 17:9 “The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked; Who can know it?

Which is why you must do this:

Deuteronomy 10:16 Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.

Because:

Romans 2:28-29 ...he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

You have to alter What the scriptures say to make it fit

Are you kidding me? This is the only way Once Saved Always Saved survives!

If you are not gonna accept what the scriptures say there's nothing I can do to change your opinion, but you asked for scripture, It says what it says

What does this scripture say?

Hebrews 10:26-27 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

If you are not gonna accept what the scriptures say there's nothing I can do to change your opinion.

It says what it says.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

From post #1400

....Grace was never extended to some of you guys and that’s why you never Appreciate it , understand it , or LIVE it

Titus 2:11-12 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world

Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

And I agree with you that the law is made for the sinner and not for the one made righteous by Jesus! But why is it for the sinner in you r thinking?

The law was made for the sinner for these reasons.....

1) It condemns them as the sinners they are.
2) It arouses and increases sin in the sinner.
3) It's all the ways the unconverted sinner is to approach the Lord in worship.
4) It's cold hard letters are the sinner's sole guide into the righteous things of God.

Unbelievers are the ones for whom the condemnation of the law is sent (for they have not the righteousness of God), who need a way to safely approach God in their unclean, condemned state (for they have not the cleansing and protection of Christ's sacrifice and ministry), who need their sin magnified so they can see it (for they have not the illumination of Christ), and who need the letters of the law to lead them into righteousness (for they have not the Holy Spirit). For all these reasons God has made the law for the sinner and placed them under it, not the righteous.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Have you considered that the reason why God gave Israel dietary laws was because He wanted them healthy and not getting sick as they were eating the food of Egypt? Those laws weren't arbitrary to satisfy God's ego or sense of power. He wants us to be healthy. To be at the peak of our capabilities in order to glorify Him in our lives. Eating bacon (which even scientists declare isn't food) and other meat products that God says are unclean is nothing but a long way to death. Unclean is a synonym for unhealthy. In some cases such as shellfish, poisonous.

I appreciate the argument, but Jesus himself declared all foods clean (Mark 7:19). If the dietary laws were meant to address dietary health and wellbeing he would not have declared them clean for consumption.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Pro 24:16 KJV For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief.

makes me think of Matthew 18:21-22 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? [22] Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

And you are putting forth the finger.

Isaiah 58:9 Then shalt thou call, and the Lord shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity;

 

[HisLife]

Is erecting straw men your only form of response? Your scripture quote above agrees with my post you quoted. The gospel is absolutely a thing of power... God's power to save... But you short change what God is capable of. And you completely misunderstand what He wants for you.
What is it about so many Christians today that search for theological excuses for holding on to sin?
Even to the point of claiming those who do not want to sin are somehow heretics???!!!

Short change what God is capable of?...Non sense God can Do Whatever he wants, What is it about Accusers that try say stuff you haven't said? Holding on to what Sin?, You didn't claim you do not want to sin, You claimed you live up to the greatest commandment because it casts out all your fear , Your under a strong delusion And believe a Lie, You Don't Live up to the greatest commandment stop been fearful and confront the truth, Jesus came to save sinners

 

[HisLife]

makes me think of Matthew 18:21-22 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? [22] Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.





Isaiah 58:9 Then shalt thou call, and the Lord shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity;

vanity of vanities; all is vanity. Why do you think of forgiveness these guys are speaking lies in hypocrisy and preaching another Gospel its not about forgiveness

 

[ChristisGod]

Only a sinner needs salvation and if one denies sin they are a liar according to 1 John 1:7-10. Jesus came to seek and save the lost and the lost are sinners in need of salvation. When one becomes saved they are not sinless but they do sin less and less. And when one sins they confess and repent of their sin. Sin will be a struggle until we are Resurrected when sin, death and the devil will be done away with, until then everyone has to deal with sin, obedience and repentance. No one can reach a state of sinless perfection on this side of the grave.

hope this helps !!!