Made Sinless Forever : #2

[Behold]

Reader,

This is a follow up to the previous Thread : Made Sinless Forever, by The Blood of Jesus.

So, again, we understand that What Christ has completed on The Cross....= is Eternal. . And once you have received it by Faith, then what it provides for you, is eternal.

Salvation is Eternal Life "in Christ" and Eternal Life is not Temporary and its not based on your Behavior... Its only based on : John 14:6.

Read it..

The Cross of Christ is not the start of your Salvation. It is in fact Salvation itself,.... as Jesus dying on The Cross, is what God has eternally provided as His FREE = "Gift of Salvation".
Jesus on The Cross, is the mercy of God extended as the eternal forgiveness of God, that is based on Jesus becoming your sin offering..
So, once you have trusted in Christ, then God provides to you what Jesus has died to become for you. Which is...........

1.) "God hath made JESUS... To be SIN for US"...

2.) "Jesus is the One Time ETERNAL Sacrifice for Sin".

Now the "US"< specifically, is everyone who will trust in Christ and be born again... And the "US", is also the UNIVERSAL OFFER of God's forgiveness, to the world.. John 3:16........ And... 2 Corin 5:19 that tells us that God was IN Christ, not counting sin against the world.......one Believer at a time..
So, this bless OFFER.... of God's eternal Redemption that IS the Cross of Christ... is UNIVERSAL... but the application, the imputation of God's forgiveness that is found as The Cross of Christ, has to be received by your Faith.

A simple way to understand this is...

You Take Christ by your faith..., and God takes you by Blood Covenant Promise......forever.

Now, once you have received God's "Gift of Salvation", by Trusting in Christ..... . then your sins are forgiven, as if you have never committed one... and you are then born again, and now you exist in the Kingdom of God, as '"in Christ, and "one with God"....=.forever.

Listen..
Salvation that is found IN CHRIST is not temporary and its not based on your behavior... Its based on Christ's shed blood, death, and resurrection.
You can't DO that for yourself.........you can only receive this Salvation that Christ is become for you, by your FAITH., as "God's Grace through Faith".

Listen carefull..
.....Now having become born again.......God now only sees you at all times.... and forever.... as "made righteous", having become :

"THE righteousness of God, IN CHRIST".
"The RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD......IN Christ"...

So, that is ETERNAL, as the Righteous you have received.....,,, that you have become, as "made Righteous"..... is GOD's OWN Righteousness that is the "imputed righteousness of Christ"
This is "THE Gift of Righteousness" that is YOUR Salvation "IN Christ".

Now the easy way to understand this ,is........ Jesus became your sin, and now your born again Spirit has become "Christ's Righteousness" and that is your eternal Salvation.

Now as i told you in the other Thread.... you have to understand that you are "MADE righteous"... having received God's "GIFT of Righteousness".
So, that is immediate, (born ...again).... and eternal.. because you are now become "THE Righteousness of God, in Christ", the moment you are born again.

Now, when you get the revelation that i just taught you.... then Paul tells us we are are "renewing our mind" as this is how you enter "walking in the Spirit" and exit "the carnal mind" and leave "the flesh".

So how do you do that?
Its to have the revelation that Paul reveals that im teaching you...that is to = understand WHO you have become "in Christ".. then once you posses it, you are doing what Hebrews 13:9 told you to do, that you must do.... And if you dont, then a cult will get you.. A man made doctrine that is false, will find you, and it will own your mind.

Listen,
There is no... other option,.... and that is because Satan's power of deception is greater than your ability to withstand it.
So, this is why Paul tells you to "put on the Armor"... or you will become involved with a Cult.
Hebrews 13:9, tells you which part of the Armor of God, is most vital.. and that is the : "Helmet of Salvation"..... And what that is.. is to have the revelation that Paul reveals that im giving you both in the previous Thread and in this one... Its simply this..

A.) You are to only see yourself as God sees you, forever... now that you are born again.

This understanding of who you have become ""IN CHRIST""......is God's perspective regarding all of His "Blood bought"... Born Again.

So again....what is that Perspective that is the "HELMET of Salvation" ?????, .. that is to "establish your HEART with Grace"??????,

Its to understand that:.........

1.) You are a born again Spirit, that is the Son-Daughter of God..

2.) You are eternally "made righteous", having become : ""THE Righteousness of God, In Christ"""'

3.) You are "not under the Law, but under Grace", so you exist here... ""Where there is NO LAW... there is no Transgression"...

4.) You now and forever exist in "the Kingdom of God" that literally means you are joined To God, Spiritually, as "ONE WITH GOD".. "IN Christ".

See all that?
That is who you have eternally become as a Child of God, as a Son/Daughter of God, as " "BORN......again".

Now if you are only water baptized and religious, then in not talking to you...

But if you are" BORN... AGAIN">....

Then Paul is showing you how GOD sees you, at all times.....and never again does God see you as a sinner.. He sees you as "IN CHRIST">.. a "Saint"....."made Righteous".. having eternally become.. "THE Righteousness of God......in Christ" as a born again.. "new Creation".

- "but Behold, i was told by a heretic, that im supposed to confess sin to try to stay saved and stay forgiven".

A.) God only sees you as : "made free from Sin"... having Become : "The Righteousness of GOD, in Christ".

- "but Behold, if you knew what i have done since i was saved......im so ashamed, i have failed God so many times, even today..."..

A.) God only sees you, as "made free from Sin" "BORN..Again".. ....as : "THE Righteousness of God, in Christ"... "Not under the Law but under Grace".

Reader.... if you are born again, then GOD does not see you as anything else, and will never see you as anything else..

So, when you get THAT MIND.... then your mind is being "renewed" and you have literally put on "The Helmet of Salvation".. and are now "walking in the Light" that is the true Knowledge of God, as REAL FAITH.

 

[JLB]

Reader,

This is a follow up to the previous Thread : Made Sinless Forever, by The Blood of Jesus.

So, again, we understand that What Christ has completed on The Cross....= is Eternal. . And once you have received it by Faith, then what it provides for you, is eternal.

Salvation is Eternal Life "in Christ" and Eternal Life is not Temporary and its not based on your Behavior... Its only based on : John 14:6.

Read it..

The Cross of Christ is not the start of your Salvation. It is in fact Salvation itself,.... as Jesus dying on The Cross, is what God has eternally provided as His FREE = "Gift of Salvation".
Jesus on The Cross, is the mercy of God extended as the eternal forgiveness of God, that is based on Jesus becoming your sin offering..
So, once you have trusted in Christ, then God provides to you what Jesus has died to become for you. Which is...........

1.) "God hath made JESUS... To be SIN for US"...

2.) "Jesus is the One Time ETERNAL Sacrifice for Sin".

Now the "US"< specifically, is everyone who will trust in Christ and be born again... And the "US", is also the UNIVERSAL OFFER of God's forgiveness, to the world.. John 3:16........ And... 2 Corin 5:19 that tells us that God was IN Christ, not counting sin against the world.......one Believer at a time..
So, this bless OFFER.... of God's eternal Redemption that IS the Cross of Christ... is UNIVERSAL... but the application, the imputation of God's forgiveness that is found as The Cross of Christ, has to be received by your Faith.

A simple way to understand this is...

You Take Christ by your faith..., and God takes you by Blood Covenant Promise......forever.

Now, once you have received God's "Gift of Salvation", by Trusting in Christ..... . then your sins are forgiven, as if you have never committed one... and you are then born again, and now you exist in the Kingdom of God, as '"in Christ, and "one with God"....=.forever.

Listen..
Salvation that is found IN CHRIST is not temporary and its not based on your behavior... Its based on Christ's shed blood, death, and resurrection.
You can't DO that for yourself.........you can only receive this Salvation that Christ is become for you, by your FAITH., as "God's Grace through Faith".

Listen carefull..
.....Now having become born again.......God now only sees you at all times.... and forever.... as "made righteous", having become :

"THE righteousness of God, IN CHRIST".
"The RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD......IN Christ"...

So, that is ETERNAL, as the Righteous you have received.....,,, that you have become, as "made Righteous"..... is GOD's OWN Righteousness that is the "imputed righteousness of Christ"
This is "THE Gift of Righteousness" that is YOUR Salvation "IN Christ".

Now the easy way to understand this ,is........ Jesus became your sin, and now your born again Spirit has become "Christ's Righteousness" and that is your eternal Salvation.

Now as i told you in the other Thread.... you have to understand that you are "MADE righteous"... having received God's "GIFT of Righteousness".
So, that is immediate, (born ...again).... and eternal.. because you are now become "THE Righteousness of God, in Christ", the moment you are born again.

Now, when you get the revelation that i just taught you.... then Paul tells us we are are "renewing our mind" as this is how you enter "walking in the Spirit" and exit "the carnal mind" and leave "the flesh".

So how do you do that?
Its to have the revelation that Paul reveals that im teaching you...that is to = understand WHO you have become "in Christ".. then once you posses it, you are doing what Hebrews 13:9 told you to do, that you must do.... And if you dont, then a cult will get you.. A man made doctrine that is false, will find you, and it will own your mind.

Listen,
There is no... other option,.... and that is because Satan's power of deception is greater than your ability to withstand it.
So, this is why Paul tells you to "put on the Armor"... or you will become involved with a Cult.
Hebrews 13:9, tells you which part of the Armor of God, is most vital.. and that is the : "Helmet of Salvation"..... And what that is.. is to have the revelation that Paul reveals that im giving you both in the previous Thread and in this one... Its simply this..

A.) You are to only see yourself as God sees you, forever... now that you are born again.

This understanding of who you have become ""IN CHRIST""......is God's perspective regarding all of His "Blood bought"... Born Again.

So again....what is that Perspective that is the "HELMET of Salvation" ?????, .. that is to "establish your HEART with Grace"??????,

Its to understand that:.........

1.) You are a born again Spirit, that is the Son-Daughter of God..

2.) You are eternally "made righteous", having become : ""THE Righteousness of God, In Christ"""'

3.) You are "not under the Law, but under Grace", so you exist here... ""Where there is NO LAW... there is no Transgression"...

4.) You now and forever exist in "the Kingdom of God" that literally means you are joined To God, Spiritually, as "ONE WITH GOD".. "IN Christ".

See all that?
That is who you have eternally become as a Child of God, as a Son/Daughter of God, as " "BORN......again".

Now if you are only water baptized and religious, then in not talking to you...

But if you are" BORN... AGAIN">....

Then Paul is showing you how GOD sees you, at all times.....and never again does God see you as a sinner.. He sees you as "IN CHRIST">.. a "Saint"....."made Righteous".. having eternally become.. "THE Righteousness of God......in Christ" as a born again.. "new Creation".

- "but Behold, i was told by a heretic, that im supposed to confess sin to try to stay saved and stay forgiven".

A.) God only sees you as : "made free from Sin"... having Become : "The Righteousness of GOD, in Christ".

- "but Behold, if you knew what i have done since i was saved......im so ashamed, i have failed God so many times, even today..."..

A.) God only sees you, as "made free from Sin" "BORN..Again".. ....as : "THE Righteousness of God, in Christ"... "Not under the Law but under Grace".

Reader.... if you are born again, then GOD does not see you as anything else, and will never see you as anything else..

So, when you get THAT MIND.... then your mind is being "renewed" and you have literally put on "The Helmet of Salvation".. and are now "walking in the Light" that is the true Knowledge of God, as REAL FAITH.

Jesus admonished us to remain in Him.


If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. John 15:6


Here is how the scriptures instruct us to remain in Christ.


Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. 1 John 3:24







JLB

 

[Behold]

Jesus admonished us to remain in Him.


If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. John 15:6

That verse is written before Jesus died on The Cross.
Its written to JEWS.... as the CHURCH is not created yet.
So, you'll never understand it, until you first realize that, and as you only want to try to prove you can lose your Salvation, on every forum you are on, for years,... So you have to stop trying to prove that The Cross failed, when in fact it didnt.

 

[Behold]

Any time you have a "OSAS" type of Thread up and running....., you are going to find most of all..... Christians and the hyper religious.. who do not understand their Salvation, or do not have any Salvation.... coming to the Thread try to prove that the born again still have their sin.
In Fact if you have sin, then Jesus does not have your sin, and you are not saved yet, you are not forgiven yet, and you are not born again yet..

Its also a fact, that a Thread that is discussing a sinning Christian, is proving that the OP does not understand what it means to be Born again.

So, here is something you have to learn..... Hebrews 13:9........ and its something you receive as understanding by revelation of the Holy Spirit.

Listen..
When you are told that you need to sin and confess and repeat, as someone like ronald nolette will tell you, then you understand that this person has no understanding of the Blood of Jesus, as the Blood Atonement. They do not understand "the finished work of Jesus on the Cross".

So, here is what you absolutey have to learn, if you are born again, or you will remain a Hebrews 6:1 baby Christian all your life., and never mature past it.

First, you have to LEARN, that your body and your mind, are not born again.... Its only your SPIRIT Man that has received the "BORN......again", Birth that is proof you have received God's "GIFT of Salvation".

So, once you get that 1st revelation, then what im going to tell you next, teach you, will become very obvious.

Now, the SON-Daughter of GOD, is the BORN. .again..., Spirit.........not your mind, and not your body, as your body is "dead because of Sin", and you'll get a new one.., and your mind has to be renewed... Paul teaches.

And what im showing you in this Thread, is HOW to do it....

So, now understanding that your BORN AGAIN Spirit,= is the LITERAL "Son-Daughter" of God, who is "A Spirit"... then once you understand this, then the NT will begin to open for you, regarding many many places that ""didnt make sense before"".

Now, understanding that the BORN AGAIN Spirit, is the Child of God, is the LITERAL Son/Daughter of God, then we understand this..

A.) "The body that is dead because of sin" is going to be buried or cremated and your "old man of sin" is DEAD..."Crucified with Christ".

So, what is left is the REAL YOU... is the actual Eternal Child of God, the Eternal Son-Daughter of God...= its your Born again Spirit that is inside your body....Colossians 2:11 .. that has become BORN AGAIN...."In Christ".... as "one with God",.... and is "seated in Heavenly places"...right now.

 

[Behold]

Listen now.. carefully....

Your born again Spirit that is the Child of God......that will get a NEW BODY.........is this..

= '"" not under the LAW........but Under Grace"

And that means that every CHRISTian, exists here.....

= "Where there is no LAW........there is no TRANSGRESSION"...

Now that means that by YOU becoming Born again Spiritually.....= The Law never again, can define you, as a SINNER, or your deeds as sin.
Never again
And this is because .. """"Jesus is the ONE TIME.... ETERNAL .. Sacrifice for your sin"... so, that takes care of your sin, forever.

So, when Heretics try to tell you, that "NO, only your sin before you were saved is covered, not later sin".. then you show them the words...

"Jesus is the ONE TIME..... ETERNAL Sacrifice for sin"... = ETERNAL, ETERNAL Sacrifice for sin...and then ask them to get lost and stay lost.

Now Listen ....

And so... now, that you always exist where the LAW can't touch you, or define you, because you exit in the Kingdom of God were there is no Moses Law or Commandments....... you are now always "made free from sin"... having become "The righteousness of God in Christ".

That is who you are, forever, if you are Born.......again.

You are forever this one....

"As Jesus is....so are the born again.......in THIS World"......= and Jesus has no Sin.

And one more..

Does this mean you will never want something that is not good for you, or does it mean that you wont do something that you should not do?
OF course not....as your MIND is not born again, so, its going to have to be trained by..."the renewing of your mind"... and that takes time.

Always remember...

There is no sin found "in Christ""..... and every born again CHRISTian, is "IN CHRIST""

Thre is no sin found as "one with God" and that is every Christian found, as "one with God".

There is no sin found in Heaven, and every Christian is "seated in Heavenly places, IN CHRIST".. right now. and always are you "IN CHRIST"..

Now, once you get this revelation of who you have become, as a born again Spirit, that is the "new Creation in Christ".. you are going to meet a lot of Christians who have no idea what they have become., and are not going to realize it, as they are cult trained and mind owned.
They are in their Carnal mind, and they are trying to perform for God, to try to keep what is already Eternal..
They are going to believe and tell you, that you have sin, and you have to confess it...

Ignore these Heretics, who are probably also a Calvinist.

So, just realize that once you understand who you have become "in Christ"..."born again Spiritually"... as the "new Creation"... most other Christians... will not understand what you now understand as the revelation of who you are become "in Christ".

 

[JLB]

That verse is written before Jesus died on The Cross.
It’s esus is speakinwritten to JEWS.... as the CHURCH is not created yet.

Jesus is speaking directly to His Church leadership teaching them the things that they are to teach to their disciples.

These disciples were saved under Jesus’s ministry.


The same John who authored the Gospel of John also stated the instruction to us in
1 John. 3:24


Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. 1 John 3:24


If a born again Christian does not remain in Christ then they no longer have eternal life.


It’s that simple. Eternal life is being joined to Christ, thus being in Christ.



JLB

 

[Behold]

Jesus is speaking directly to His Church leadership

Jesus was never talking to the CHRUCH in your verse........ as the CHURCH never began until Jesus did on The Cross and that is after John 17.

Its the CROSS of Christ that BIRTHED the Church., the "the Body of Christ".

@JLB .....Are you are JW, ????? as even a Mormon would know this.. so, what Cult are you that has no idea that there is no New Testament Church, UNTIL>.. Jesus dies on the Cross...

 

[JLB]

Jesus was never talking to the CHRUCH in your verse........ as the CHURCH never began until Jesus did on The Cross and that is after John 17.

Its the CROSS of Christ that BIRTHED the Church., the "the Body of Christ".

@JLB .....Are you are JW, ????? as even a Mormon would know this.. so, what Cult are you that has no idea that there is no New Testament Church, UNTIL>.. Jesus dies on the Cross...

Jesus taught His Jewish disciples who became the Apostles, the leadership of the church.


Where do you come up with such ridiculous things?


Are you claiming Jesus failed at getting people saved, born again during His ministry?

 

[Corinth77777]

That verse is written before Jesus died on The Cross.
Its written to JEWS.... as the CHURCH is not created yet.
So, you'll never understand it, until you first realize that, and as you only want to try to prove you can lose your Salvation, on every forum you are on, for years,... So you have to stop trying to prove that The Cross failed, when in fact it didnt.

Hi, Do you know that Christ is in you?
If so how do you know?

 

[Behold]

Hi, Do you know that Christ is in you?
If so how do you know?

"God is A Spirit".

"Christ is THAT Spirit".

"Christ in YOU, the hope of Glory" is proof you have THEM, as the Holy Spirit, in you., which is explained as the believer becoming....

= "the temple of THE Holy Spirit".

How does that happen???

Jesus said.,. "you must be born again"... = SPIRITUALLY.........and that means that God "who is A Spirit" the HOLY SPIRIT.. .births the spirit of the BELIEVER as BORN.... again.... Spiritually.
This is "Spiritual UNION" with God......... restored.
So, that is how you know that you are a CHRISTian... = Born.........again.

Whereas... "He (they) who have not the Spirit of God in them, are NONE OF GOD's".

Who is that one?
Most of the time its a water baptized religious fakir who wants to talk about lawkeeping, commandment keeping, and self effort.

 

[Corinth77777]

"God is A Spirit".

"Christ is THAT Spirit".

"Christ in YOU, the hope of Glory" is proof you have THEM, as the Holy Spirit, in you., which is explained as the believer becoming....

= "the temple of THE Holy Spirit".

How does that happen???

Jesus said.,. "you must be born again"... = SPIRITUALLY.........and that means that God "who is A Spirit" the HOLY SPIRIT.. .births the spirit of the BELIEVER as BORN.... again.... Spiritually.
This is "Spiritual UNION" with God......... restored.
So, that is how you know that you are a CHRISTian... = Born.........again.

Whereas... "He (they) who have not the Spirit of God in them, are NONE OF GOD's".

Who is that one?
Most of the time its a water baptized religious fakir who wants to talk about lawkeeping, commandment keeping, and self effort.

Hi, so you know that Christ is in you because you have hope? Is that how you know Christ's is in you?

 

[Behold]

Hi, so you know that Christ is in you because you have hope? Is that how you know Christ's is in you?

Being born again, causes changes inside you, that you can't cause of yourself.

Changes that continue and remake you as a person, as a human, as a CHRISTian.

For example... there is now found..... a real sin sensitivity that was not there before..inside you.......and that is because once you have the Holy Spirit in you, then you become very aware of sin.........sensitive to it......... in a way that you were not before.

A way to understand this, is that the born again, will SEE SIN.... and that happens only after you are born again.
That is the Holy Spirit who has united with your inner spirit and your conscience, and now He reveals many things to you, including a sensitivity to sin...

Another way to realize the change is... the inner peace.........a type of deep wellness, or calming of your inner mind and inner person, that was never before found.