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The identity of the 'lost ten tribes of Israel', is God's secret. [Of course; secular anthropologists carefully avoid any hint of the Western nations true origin.]And as usual, Satan's servants are ever trying to destroy what those like Rawlinson discovered with the Behistun rock and Assyrian links to the ten tribes of Israel.
The so called Messianic Jews are not part of the Church at all, because they do not believe in Jesus Christ. for if they did they would be Christians in fact and not Jews at all. they the messianic Jews are looking to another Jesus of their own making, a works based one ! they truly reject Jesus Christ in fact.Yes. There is no question that the Church and the nation of Israel (consisting of the twelve tribes) are distinct and will remain distinct in eternity. Revelation 7 clearly brings out this distinction, although the 144,000 are merely a microcosm of redeemed and restored Israel.
Replacement Theology has done a lot of damage by confusing and confounding the Church and Israel. So the best way to understand this is that the Church (the Body of Christ with both redeemed Jews and Gentiles) is on earth from Pentecost until the Resurrection/Rapture. That also means that there is a numerical limit to the number of Gentiles which will be within the Church (Rom 11:25). During that time the Jews will generally be in unbelief because they have been judicially blinded by God. But many Jews are being saved today, and they try to segregate themselves as Messianic Jews. But they are in fact a part of the Church.
The so called Messianic Jews are not part of the Church at all, because they do not believe in Jesus Christ. for if they did they would be Christians in fact and not Jews at all. they the messianic Jews are looking to another Jesus of their own making, a works based one ! they truly reject Jesus Christ in fact.
Anyone who is outside of Christ Jesus is not worthy at all regardless, the so called Jews of today are not even worthy of being called Jews in fact, go study the OT and you will find in fact they do not follow such at all, the same can be said of so called Christians nowadays especially any one who is crowing on about the second coming like a chook, because it shows that they themselves are lost. for if they were truly born again they would understand that you must be truly born again of the holy spirit to be Saved= and then you are in the Kingdom of God. they are clearly on the wrong path. you can be saved nowadays, just as it was when Jesus Christ disciples were born again and Saved as they were the only true Jews that were worthy of God back in the day, the rest were led astray by the works of man, who are of this world in fact and serve Satan in fact.
From the second coming all will be saved and the world will become the Kingdom of God, because all the delusions will be burnt up. the days coming will be Hellfire ! like no other ! the morons who peddle the 2ed coming are of Satan, it is they who are under delusions of so called Jews and they are truly calling to the Devil as they are doing his will, because they are rejecting Jesus Christ in fact. they are claiming that they will not have to endure the Hellfire, but they in fact will indeed and you know why, because such will reap what they sow ! such people are not abiding in Jesus Christ in fact.
They are all clearly abiding in the works of man in fact ! not to mention that such a people are wolves because they have hope and are eager for Hellfire on others, I my self do not wish Hellfire on anyone, but that they turn and come to Jesus Christ to be truly Saved in the Holy Spirit now. I am not wishing Hellfire on the poor bastards, Jesus never did, the Jews who rejected him reaped what they sowed and were vomited out of the Land, now such claiming to be Jews nowadays do not fit the description of worthy of even the OT. not to mention that the Land was not God given in fact, but is a creation of so called Zionist who try and dominate over all the Jews and not to mention the whole world. they are doing a good job of it, but many Jews claim that them Zionist do not represent them and call them Nazis.
And I know them by their works and I know that they are Nazis, all Socialism is clearly Anti-Christ because such is a works of man in fact.
Where does Socialism lay the seeds for Christ Jesus ? I have never seen such at all, in fact sorry they are the weeds that kill any such growth in the Holy Spirit. such Nazi Socialist types dictate laws that one can not challenge them on anything they deem taboo. Queers you name it all have been empowered over you.
When I heard what Norm had to say about the "Nazarene sect of Judaism (Acts 24:5)," I found another piece of the puzzle. My piece. Yours, I don't know. I would think that some would be upset by this, but sometimes one must say, "Let the chips fall where they may."
There are no Jews left in fact. even Hitler's Nazis claimed after 3 times removed such a one was not a Jew and Hitler was safe being 3 times removed as such.Oh man, you have gone way out in left field.
Just because Messianic Jews use Yeshua, a Hebrew version of Christ's name doesn't mean they don't belong to Him.
And there is such a thing as a true Jew, because it originally means one born of the tribe of Judah.
The tribe of Benjamin joined with the tribe of Judah when God split old Israel into two separate kingdoms, and the tribe of Levi also joined with them in the southern "kingdom of Judah", strangers also with them. They all then took the name 'Jew', which comes from the sole tribe of Judah.
But in Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9, Lord Jesus showed about false ones that crept in, as false Jews, meaning these false Jews were NOT born of any of those 3 tribes of the southern kingdom.
So when you condemn Jews in general, you are condemning many of God's children and our brethren, for many of those too have accepted our Lord Jesus Christ, Yeshu'a, Messiah.
There are no Jews left in fact. even Hitler's Nazis claimed after 3 times removed such a one was not a Jew and Hitler was safe being 3 times removed as such.
How can one claim to be a Jew ?
I you follow the Old Testament for one, regardless of race, that makes one a Jew, nowadays. but as to race ? no it never was such at all, the Jews are not a race, they are a religion, they were only one Tribe of how many Semitic Tribes back in the day.
Ok so one can prove a blood like, big deal ! that does not make you even a Israelite in any sense of reality, if one understands why Jacob became Israel and understand the Tribes of Israel is all about the coming of Jesus Christ in fact. that's the whole point ! one must be born again of the Holy Spirit end of story.
Some moron making claims of being part blood relation does not cut it with the Holy Spirit at all in fact.
Anyone who claims race as to idolise a people is just as insane as the Nazis were, such comes from the same devil worship dribble.
It's not your bloodline your race that God wants at all, it's that you abide in the Vine ! outside of that is Satan !
I am holding Jesus as the Christ ! the Alpha and the Omega and that's a fact that nothing can deny and if any try they will be of Satan.
The worthy Jews came to Jesus 2000 years ago and it's over, the not worthy Jews missed the bus 2000 years ago and they do not truly exist at all in reality, the ones claiming such today are full of crap. the poor bastards are carnal ! and totally lost, do not follow them they have nothing to do with God at all, they are Anti-Christ in fact. I hold out hope to all, but I do not idolise some so called race.
Anyone who looks to the so called Jews is like a dog that goes back to it's vomit. such a one must have no faith in Jesus Christ at all in fact. or why would one be looking towards such carnal nonsense.
Anyone who is looking putting their faith as to the second coming is not truly born again and saved, because they are looking for him, but I am found ! and I know who he is, that's the difference. I have totally all my faith in Jesus Christ, I need no other at all. I understand that the Second coming will come after all is burnet up, but I will not be responsible for such, for I understand that I am of the Kingdom of God now. such can be so for anyone now, you do not have to wait for the second coming, people have been saved now for 2000 years.
The Israel that is talked about now is of the making of mans works, such is a counterfeit.You have left The Word of God with much of that above belief system. You cannot do YOUR OWN salvation, which involves also His future LITERAL Kingdom here on earth, with Israel's restoration.
The Israel that is talked about now is of the making of mans works, such is a counterfeit.
All the people who came to Jesus were worthy of in regard to being Israel from the start with the Apostles in fact, remember Nathaniel ! what was it that Jesus said to him ? Jesus said that he was a true Israelite in fact and remember that Jesus said to his disciples to go out to the Israelites and if they do not believe them, what to do ? have noting to do with them, walk away and do not even take the sand of their sandals ? now Jews never said go to the Jews he said they who claim to be Israelites, now Jesus knew that not all who claim to be Israel are worthy, just as he said not all Christians are worth of him truly. oh they do claim X, Y and Z but they are dupes to the works of man in fact, they give God lip service if that in reality and that's why when talking to Nathaniel we see Jesus giving account of him as such.
Israel needs no restoration, that's a carnal perception, oh we are going to build a State and call it Israel_O
it's the individuals who becomes an Israel. remember Jacob he became Israel in fact and the reason why he got the title ? not everyone is worthy of such a title regardless of your tribe membership and we see that is a fact in the Bible.
Israel is within ones grasp to obtain, one has to serve God ! the creation of the State claiming to be Israel is a joke ! such is a work of man and a creation of the Rothschild's and such in fact. Lord Rothschild has said it's his creation and he also made himself clear that he also dominated over the British Monarch. he made a statement that he cared not for the establishment at all for he controlled the money ! not to mention he and his banking cohorts created WW2 that killed say 60 million goyim and 6 million Jews all in the name of the creation of the State that they claim to be Israel ? well it's not in fact because Jesus has the title of being the King of Israel in fact and anyone who rejects such is going to Hell as a traitor that they are.
You see all carnal morons ask for signs, they have to see it before having faith, but they also seen Jesus in the flesh, to no avail also. but what does the Bible say about them of faith that believe in Jesus and yet have not seen him ? oh yes that's right were does such truly come from ? it's the Holy Spirit that one must abide in. one of little faith does not cut it you know, the Bible points that out and says you need the faith that can move mountains.
The one with little faith will look to such nonsense as the creation of such a States creation, but one of full faith will see such for what it truly is, just another work of mans nonsense.
I see people get so pumped up with the creation of the State, yet I know they are of little faith in God and truly look to mans works, regardless of what they may claim. I have seen their ego trip take over, so much for their faith in God. they are bastards who idolise idiots.
I know that such bastards are clearly setting up to exterminate most of the worlds population, they have told me about their ends in glee.
Jesus Christ warned of such people claiming to be Jews and said they were of their Father of Lies and was a murderer from the beginning.
I am not a Jew. My ancestors haven't knowingly had anything to do with Jews for nearly 2,800 years. We are, however, distant cousins.You must be truly born again to enter into the Kingdom of God.
There is no such thing as Jews truly for 2000 years.
All they who claim to be Jews for 2000 years are not in fact. they are Bastards to the OT in fact and Bastards to God in fact, as they reject Jesus Christ in fact.
This is the mob the leadership that is domination over the so called Jews, they hate Jesus Christ in fact and I will point out that anyone who looks to any such as them will go to Hell, because one is serving the Anti-Christ in fact. One better turn and look to Jesus and repent of such a grave Sin.
Get on with being a worthy Christian I say.
Oh but what about the Anti-Semite label, boy that's Heavy ! such is a heavy thing nowadays right, Heavy ! you don't want to be going there for fear of offending ! who ! the TV Hollywood ? the Socialist ? who in fact ! the Politically Correct Nazis ? come on man ! what about God, Jesus Christ !
Go out and start bagging Jesus Christ and see what happens to you nowadaysyou will not raze an eyebrow !
Claim one is an Ant-Christ. big deal, no one cares, not the Government or the TV media.
Claim one is an Anti-Semite and all hell brakes loose, everyone is deeply cut and offended, you are a monster! the Media will have a field day on your ass, you will lose your job on the spot, you name it ! what a spastic shallow uninformed society, that just gets by on indoctrinated dribble and is not truly educated on such a subject at all, what a mongrel dog society, it will reap what it has sown. the poor blighted bastards, boy they have hellfire coming their way.
Who has created this idiot society, clearly the Satanist in fact ! I can't believe it, the biggest load of stupid hogwash is beyond me, years ago I would never of believed what I am coming across in the last 10 years.
Just next door rentals moved out, young 17 and 20yo couple with good jobs mind, had lived with a dog locked in the house doing it's business all over, bed rooms carpet and all. the owner were not impressed. Who are these people !![]()
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oh no ! I was to do a job on a Dean of a Uni once and I had to walk out, it was that filthy, they were total grubs.
What you could detect is that I am not fooled by they who claim to be Jews, that's the point I am making, they are not worthy of the OT at all in fact. I would have some regard for such if they were worthy of the OT and then I would regard them worthy of such.I am not a Jew. My ancestors haven't knowingly had anything to do with Jews for nearly 2,800 years. We are, however, distant cousins.
The last while we were in the same land, we slaughtered tens of thousands of each other during multiple wars. We were the worst of enemies.
When I hear you talk about the Jews, you remind me of Arnold Murray and Christian Identity. What I detect in your voice when I hear you talk about Israel is not the Spirit of Love (Jesus Messiah).
Nearly 21 years ago I chose to follow Jesus by doing what He said by taking up my cross daily and following Him. Not a man. Not all the popular frauds who see Christians as weak-minded people who are easy to take advantage of.
I practice what I preach, which is death to self through Christ crucified. Which for me has been a 20-year process.
Christians are understandably concerned when someone new starts talking about Israel and things they don't understand.
I see myself as a follower of the Way (John 14:6), which at one time was called, "The Nazarene sect of Judaism."
Acts 11:19-26 shows the disciples taught Christians at Antioch for a year. Though closely related spiritually to them, it was technically a mistake to call the disciples "Christians."
I'd like to say that I heard a teaching that said that God blessed every person on earth by giving them some Israeli DNA. I reject this.
You seem to think that God forever cursed everyone descended from Israel and took His Kingdom and gave it to non-Israelis. If so, you are wrong.
God has not excluded you and He has not excluded me. Just as no one is saved because of their ancestry, so also no one is excluded by it either.
Your hate for the Jews has blinded you to the promises God made to the Patriarchs. You need to repent. Do you not know what spirit we are of?
I understand that Jesus commands us to love our enemies, which includes the Jews and the left. I recently repented of wanting to assist in the execution of certain left-wing leaders.
Since then I've realized that there are people on the left that are not power-hungry Satanic pedophiles.
I was raised by a man who was left-of-liberal, a socialist, who was also an atheist. However, he worked hard and provided a good life for his wife and 5 kids. He would help anyone if he thought it made sense to do so.
Young men, in the same way, submit yourselves to your elders. And all of you, clothe yourselves with humility toward one another, because, "God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble." Humble yourselves, therefore, under God's mighty hand, so that in due time He may exalt you." 1 Peter 5:5-6 Berean Study Bible.
Tell that to the Jews who followed Jesus and the ones who were led astray or rejected Jesus back in the day.To me, the nation of Israel is just like the church. Neither are worthy of God's love, grace if you will. I believe that we all stand on even ground before God. I also believe that Ezekiel 8:10 talks about the condition of the human heart that hasn't been circumcised by God.
As in the days of Noah, I believe that there are some here today that are not fully human. They are not God's holy creation and do not belong anywhere because they were not in God's plan. I've been instructed to love people. I'll leave the rest to God.
I used to have some "close" friends. Then I wouldn't believe things like the human heart is wild. That's wild alright...a wild pile of crap! Shortly after they got from me what they wanted, what God wanted them to have, I refused to accept their control and I was rejected. Ostracized. Traditional Ritualistic Churchianity. Where everybody wants to be a star. Fallen angels are stars, at least they used to be.
You sometimes remind me of my oldest son. He hates religiosity. Especially those, who in his words, "think their crap don't stink."
I don't believe in the "Jews are Kenites" theory. I've lost friends over this but I won't budge. S.C. has its roots in white supremacy and is, in my opinion, a cult.
Anyway, you have a nice remainder of your day. Ron.
Hi. I believe there is the body (Greek-ekklesia), the chosen (the united 12 tribes of Israel), and the bride (144,000 from the 12 tribes who have "washed their robes in the blood of the Lamb."Ron: I've never heard of this theory before, concerning (blood-line) Israelites (not the fake type Jews of today I hope you are not including) identifiable today and tomorrow, to 'leave' the Body of Christ in the future? It raises all kinds of questions? What does this mean when a Christianany Christian leaves the Body of Christ to you, to go to a 'special' physical location. Are they still in the Body of Christ or not? Are they a special type of Christian within the Body? I'm really confused here. You are mixing a specific physical ancestry of a people since about 2000 years ago, with their common spiritual renewal to Christ, within the Body, on equal footing and in importance here. Enlighten me. Can you show me some scripture for this stunning revelation, for me anyway.
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The last few times my ancestors met with the Jews were when they were at war with each other and slaughtered tens of thousands of each other. In fact, the tribe of Benjamin was taken down to 600. We left off enemies.Tell that to the Jews who followed Jesus and the ones who were led astray or rejected Jesus back in the day.
You all stand on even ground ? But Jesus clearly said that such do not, why did Jesus point out that Nathaniel was a true Israelite as such, he was impressed with him in fact because he was true to God, but what of the others who did not cut the mustard to be like Nathaniel ?
What is white supremacy ? I have never seen such claimed by anyone here in Australia. I think that most white people are fools myself not to mention the same is so for any Race. and I believe that Salvation is their for all in Christ Jesus, not to mention that I believe that all are cursed without Jesus Christ, so anyone outside of Christ Jesus that is not truly born again in the holy spirit, is lost regardless of their race and colour does not come into it at all. the Jews of today do not cut it at all, such is nonsense dragged up by Satanist and such has all the hallmarks of Nazi Germany racial racist dribbling madness or a so called superior race clap trap con job that only a total moron would stupe to believe.
The Zionist Jews of today are the biggest racist bigots the world has in fact, it's even worst than Nazi Germanys position. and just look at all the dupes who are idolising the so called Jews, most are totally ignorant and do not even understand the Jews at all, they make moronic statements about the Jews are all the same ! wow what ignorance ! not all Jews are the same and not all Jews support the so called Zionist, they know such is a whore that was in bed with the Nazis and still is. it's seen as a Satanic Whore trying to dominate over all the Jews, not to mention the World playing games with ignorant people who are brainwashed to idolise such a whore that is totally Anti-Christ.
The Satanist have bewitched the world into getting totally offended in anything clamed to be Anti-Semitic, we see the outrage of such dupes, but what of anyone with Anti-Christ stance ! well that falls on deaf ears 24/7 such does not even raze a eyebrow! all such are condemned and are going to Hell for disregarding Christ Jesus in fact, because such proves that they are of their Father the Devil in fact and they will reap what they sow the poor bastards.