Once Saved....always Saved - Results of Questionnaire.

[Helen]

And you can argue until you're blue in the face - but your point is LOST if you think that everybody will be saved.

But, isn't that what purgatory is all about. The cleansing Fire?
I actually thought that Catholics did believe that everyone was finally saved at the end.. ( if enough candles were lite and prayers prayed. )
Im surprised that you are so strongly against it.

I don't understand the working of it...but I do believe that Jesus came to save all. And I believe that Father God accepted His life-blood sacrifice for all mankind, and it reversed back everything that Adam has caused.

So ( ignorant I know) ...what is purgatory all about then?

 

[Triumph1300]

You keep posting this as if somebody was disagreeing with you . . .

Ok, that's funny. Lol

 

[Triumph1300]

..but I do believe that Jesus came to save all.

True. That's why He came.
But not all are saved, that's the sad part.
I go as far as to tell you folks that I believe that the majority sitting in the pews on sunday are not saved.
I hope I'm wrong.
Religion is not going to save anybody.
Sitting in church does not make a person a Christian.
What's this purgatory thing all about?

 

[BreadOfLife]

But, isn't that what purgatory is all about. The cleansing Fire?
I actually thought that Catholics did believe that everyone was finally saved at the end.. ( if enough candles were lite and prayers prayed. )
Im surprised that you are so strongly against it.

I don't understand the working of it...but I do believe that Jesus came to save all. And I believe that Father God accepted His life-blood sacrifice for all mankind, and it reversed back everything that Adam has caused.

So ( ignorant I know) ...what is purgatory all about then?

No - the false belief that ALL people will be saved is the heresy of Universalism.
Jesus was very clear about the fact that MANY, if not MOST people won't be saved (The Wide and Narrow paths).

Jesus came to save ALL - but NOT all people will cooperate with God's grace so they won't be saved.
If you openly reject Christ - how can you hope to be saved??

As for Purgatory - this isn't a second chance. It is for the faithful who have some remnant of sin or impurity.
It is the final purification of the Elect.

 

[Helen]

You keep posting this as if somebody was disagreeing with you . . .

Grams told me this morning that someone is posting scripture under her name...but it is not her.
I guessed someone in her house, but she said no.

A bit of a mystery...I told her to report it if she was worried...but she said it was just scripture so she isn't worried. Hmmmm

 

[BreadOfLife]

What's this purgatory thing all about?

It's the final purification of the Elect.
Do YOU know anybody pure enough to get into Heaven?

 

[Grams]

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I just want people to know they are saved the correct way......

 

[BreadOfLife]

Grams told me this morning that someone is posting scripture under her name...but it is not her.
I guessed someone in her house, but she said no.

A bit of a mystery...I told her to report it if she was worried...but she said it was just scripture so she isn't worried. Hmmmm

Ahhhh - thanks for shedding light on this repetitious post.

 

[BreadOfLife]

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I just want people to know they are saved the correct way......

There us only ONE way and that is through Christ.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Ok, that's funny. Lol

Why is that "funny"?

 

[Triumph1300]

It's the final purification of the Elect.

Sounds to me that they are already saved when they arrive in purgatory.
(According to the Roman Catholic Church that is.)

 

[Triumph1300]

Why is that "funny"?

Watching this with others we all started to laugh when we saw that post.
Something a late night comedian would say I guess. lol.

 

[Triumph1300]

There us only ONE way and that is through Christ.

I'm sure Grams is aware of that.

 

[Taken]

Really??
Which verse in Heb. 2 says that once you are saved you are ALWAYS saved.

Just gimme the verse and I'll leave the Catholic church and join YOUR sect today . . .

Really??
Which verse in Heb. 2 says that once you are saved you are ALWAYS saved.

Just gimme the verse and I'll leave the Catholic church and join YOUR sect today . . .

Already played your game a few weeks ago.
You want to know IF men While in their natural LIFE "ARE" converted....
"ARE" forgiven,
"ARE" crucified,
"ARE" washed,
"ARE" sanctified,
"ARE" justifed,
"ARE" saved,
"ARE" quickened,
"ARE" covered,
"ARE" set apart,
"ARE" Kept with Chirst
"ARE' With God
"God is with such man Forever"

Go get yourself a student Bible and read it.
Perhaps it will be billet to satisfy your need for one liners and simple language.

 

[Triumph1300]

Go get yourself a student Bible and read it.

Better stick to the KJV.
I don't trust these so
called "Student Bibles".

 

[Taken]

And this is yet another one of your lies.
I have answered this question repeatedly.

I told you that we are born again at Baptism (John 3:5).
I also told you that we are saved when we get to Heaven. because salvation is a process (Matt. 24:13, Rom. 5:9–10, 1 Cor. 3:12–15, 1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, 7:1, Phil. 2:12, Heb 12:14).

It's you're really that dense - just let me know and I'll dumb it down a little . . .

AT Baptism...what does that mean in Catholic lingo?

 

[Helen]

Better stick to the KJV.
I don't trust these so
called "Student Bibles".

Haha!! Well said. :)

 

[Taken]

I LOVE the idea of an open public form like this because your moronic contradictions and Scriptural perversions are
recorded for everybody to read.

The BEST part, however, is that all of the posts that have destroyed your arguments and have proven you wrong are ALSO here for everybody to read. Let's me know that I've done my job well . . .

So scripture says, Jesus performed the miracle of Healing in Nazareth.

And you say Jesus preformed NO Miracles in Nazareth.

And you conclude that make you correct?

LOL

 

[BreadOfLife]

I'm sure Grams is aware of that.

Actually - I'm not sure what Grams knows.
If she got the teachings of the Catholic Church so horribly wrong, she might have gotten this wrong as well . . .

 

[Triumph1300]

AT Baptism...what does that mean in Catholic lingo?

It means the baby is saved.