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Helen

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Seems not many are concerned with speaking blasphemy against Jesus or even the Holy Spirit....that does trouble me somewhat....I know we have been brought up with rights to opinions, but when it comes to God, our opinions mean little...Rather then people speaking these things, against Him, I do believe they need to take a little care before they blurt out some of the things they come out with...One day they will stand before Him, looking into His eyes....I wonder what they will see then ?

Well, the way I look at it is. I know what I believe ...yet what I believe I always hold lightly....we are but human.
So many people are so dogmatic and sure that they are so right in all that they have chosen to believe!!
Wherever man is, there is always the potential for error. But few believe that...they are so sure of themselves. I dare not be.

I don't believe in the Rapture "as taught" , and ,as you know, I don't believe in the hell thing "as taught"..and other things..." as taught"...
I will continue to believe once saved always saved...unless and until God shows me otherwise.
If I am wrong, God will reveal ALL...."on The Day "
Bless you....H
 
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Helen

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Yes, I agree.
I don't read these long posts.
It's just to much.

I agree...We are not all stupid...we can "get the point"...without miles of words to plough through. :rolleyes:
But, each to their own....just not my choice of "talking".
Just 'make you point' and then move over..... "next!"
 

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That is a very silly thing to say. :rolleyes:
Adam at creation was a man of the Spirit.

Disagree.
Adam at creation; was a man of Dust of the Earth.

If you can't 'make you point' without so much padding

How do you justify yourself as a "godly woman", while speaking against the Word of God?
YOU = "there is no hell"
Scripture = hell mentioned 700 times.

God Bless,
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Who wants to read those long post's........... I guess no one but who writes them ??????
 
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Your posts are so L..O...N...G and boring

Not unique. Most people ARE NOT interested in conversation About Christ, and Why people believe what they believe. And WHY Many shall not know, or understand, or be included in Gods Kingdom.
Why not just get a diary and write YOUR snippet thoughts, that you don't care to discuss?

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Who wants to read those long post's........... I guess no one but who writes them ??????

Who? People WHO want to know about Christ. People WHO want to know HOW TO become saved, HOW TO understand Scripture according to God.

If you are already accomplished, good for you. MANY are not.

And those who ARE accomplished; are supposed to be spreading His Word.

Often what I see on this forum is men claiming to be accomplished WHILE speaking against His Word.

Astonishing!

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I'll let you know when I'm in Heaven.

The Bible says that I am BEING saved (1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, 7:1, Phil. 2:12, Heb 12:14).
It ALSO says that I WILL BE saved (Matt. 24:13, Rom. 5:9–10, 1 Cor. 3:12–15).

It's a process - not a one-time, slam-dunk event . . .

Wrong again. The Lord is patient while a man works out his Salvation in fear and trembling...."will he follow, learn, decide to receive his Salvation"..?? Phil 2:13-14

Once decided....The Lord is QUICK to Forgive, Save and Quicken the man...ONCE and Forever. Heb 4:2

And YOU, still don't know IF you are SAVED..?
Poor thing!

How long are you going to remain in fear and trembling, before you Confess and the Lord claims you for His own?
 

Grams

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Eph.2;
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For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

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Not of works, lest any man should boast.
 

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Eph.2;
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For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

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Not of works, lest any man should boast.
 

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They are real people
"3 in a belt" is older than the pyramids
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The story of the Father and the Three Sons for instance (in which one son dies or diminishes and the lowly second son joins the glorified third) is told in its most basic form in the account of Adam and Cain, Abel and Seth, and is repeated in various nuances from Noah and Shem, Ham and Japheth all the way up to Jesus' parable of the talents (Matthew 25:14), the image of Jesus on the cross with His one neighbor rejected and the other one joined with Him in Paradise (Luke 23:43), the breach between the lost northern kingdom of Israel and the saved southern Judah which contained the temple of YHWH, and might even establish the rough outline of the New Creation (in which satan is irrelevant and the nations of the earth attach themselves to the elect living in the New Jerusalem; Revelation 21:24).

All these narrative forms (also known as narrative cycles) are obvious continuations, or self-similar reproductions(geneticists would speak of homologous structures), of the second creation day, where one watery continuum is breached in two by a third (namely the heavenly firmament). The waters over the firmament are heard from no more, and the waters below the firmament produce dry land, vegetation and life; federated with and governed by lights placed in the dividing firmament (Genesis 1:1-19)." The amazing name Torah: meaning and etymology
 

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Wrong again. The Lord is patient while a man works out his Salvation in fear and trembling...."will he follow, learn, decide to receive his Salvation"..?? Phil 2:13-14
Once decided....The Lord is QUICK to Forgive, Save and Quicken the man...ONCE and Forever. Heb 4:2
And YOU, still don't know IF you are SAVED..?
Poor thing!
How long are you going to remain in fear and trembling, before you Confess and the Lord claims you for His own?
Really??
Which verse in Heb. 2 says that once you are saved you are ALWAYS saved.

Just gimme the verse and I'll leave the Catholic church and join YOUR sect today . . .
 
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Yes, I agree.
I don't read these long posts.
It's just to much.
Yes, I do rarely read a longer post, but something specific needs to attract me in order to do so. I do once in a while is write a long post myself but I really strive not to do so.
 
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BreadOfLife

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I have asked two different practicing Catholics on this forum...without an answer.
WHAT the it method of a Catholic becoming saved and born again?
And this is yet another one of your lies.
I have answered this question repeatedly.

I told you that we are born again at Baptism (John 3:5).
I also told you that we are saved when we get to Heaven. because salvation is a process (Matt. 24:13, Rom. 5:9–10, 1 Cor. 3:12–15, 1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, 7:1, Phil. 2:12, Heb 12:14).

It's you're really that dense - just let me know and I'll dumb it down a little . . .
 

BreadOfLife

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Yes you are ignorant.
And when you become SAVED, (like many others HAVE, on this forum)...you will have subjected yourself to Gods governing Authority.
Awe. Do you require, like an elementary student; to be REPEATEDLY TOLD, ALL POWER IS FROM GOD?
Awe. The self-proclaimed "teacher" fails AGAIN.
"EXCEPT lay his hands on a few sick people and HEAL THEM"
Too bad "TEACHER" (lol).
You "TEACHING" he COULD NOT perform miracles IS A FALSE!
But, nothing new; you regularly "teach" what is FALSE.
The FACT IS; He DID perform the MIRACLE of
Healing a few of the sick...and NO "OTHER" Miracles were performed.
Also self-proclaimed "teacher", YOU CHANGED Jesus being "AMAZED" to "BECAUSE". Tsk tsk, trying to rewrite scripture.
LOL -
LIKE YOU? Ignorant of the EXCEPTION?
LIKE YOU? Changing Scripture of Jesus' amazement to BECAUSE?
NO THANKS, self-proclaimed "teacher" of False teaching.
Awe, the self-proclaimed "educator"...OF FALSE TEACHING.
Argue with God? How ignorant.
Scripture reveals the TRUTH.
You as your own "self-proclaimed" teacher, teaches AGAINST the WORD of God.
Oh here we go again...."the self-proclaimed teacher", who doesn't KNOW IF he is Saved, is the expert "teacher" on Salvation...LOL
Laughable.
I LOVE the idea of an open public form like this because your moronic contradictions and Scriptural perversions are
recorded for everybody to read.

The BEST part, however, is that all of the posts that have destroyed your arguments and have proven you wrong are ALSO here for everybody to read. Let's me know that I've done my job well . . .
 

BreadOfLife

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Learning ABOUT the Lord is a process...
Already talked about at length.
A short recap for the ignorant.
First one HEARS the name of the Lord.
Then one LEARNS ABOUT Jesus.
The one WHO IS LEARNING ABOUT Jesus.
....is being given faith.
Once the man HAS RECEIVED enough FAITH
...that man is PREPARED to CALL on the Lord and CONFESS his Heartful Belief in the Lord.
NOW the man DECIDES;
Call on the Lord.....OR NOT.
It's not a flippant decision.
It IS A ONE TIME decision of the man using his own FREEWILL to Choose the Lord or NOT.
A man WHO, does not Choose the Lord...
Chooses to NOT Believe, (walks away from learning ABOUT the Lord)
That man Falls from (receiving) Faith from God.
That man HAS LOST His (opportunity to receive) Salvation.
( Some people are ignorant, NOT KNOWING, Salvation was provided FOR ALL. A man who DOES NOT RECEIVE HIS SALVATION, LOSES IT.
Some people are ignorant, NOT KNOWING, Faith from God is given to ALL, WHO Keep following and Trusting in the Word of God, and those who STOP following, STOP trusting His Word IS TRUE, FALL AWAY from receiving faith from God).
A man WHO, DOES CHOOSE the Lord;
CALLS ON THE Lord;
TO CONFESS his Heartfelt BELIEF.
IS whollly Forgiven; By Jesus' Blood.
IS wholly Saved/Healed; By Jesus' Stripes.
IS bodily Dead; By Crucifixion with Jesus.
IS bodily Cleansed; IN Jesus' Blood.
IS wholly Sanctified; By Christ's Authority
IS wholly Justified; By Christ's Authority
IS born again; By Christ, the Seed of God.
IS MADE Wholly, holy, WHOLE,
.....By Christ WHO IS, the Power of God.
IS FOREVER with the Lord.
SHALL be raised to the clouds IN a Glorified Body.
SHALL "SEE" His Lord, His God, AS HE IS.
A man WHO has "Completed" the "PROCESS";
"IS" Saved, ONCE and "FOREVER".
A man WHO IS STILL "IN THE PROCESS" ...HAS NOT CALLED ON the Lord with heartful belief...
AND...
IS in Danger of LOSING Salvation....
DUH!! Because the Dude NEVER called on the Lord TO CONFESS his Belief "IN" the Lord.
BOL, Since you are STILL "in the Process"...
No wonder you Challenge your being Saved.
You Should.
And No wonder WHY, your understanding of Scripture is a FAIL.
Many of the adults on this FORUM "HAVE competed the Process"....Their Salvation IS Already Accomplished and Kept, "BY" the Indwelling POWER of the Lord, WHO is with them FOREVER.
"THEY" Already HAVE direct ACCESS to be given the Lords Understaning OF His own Word.
"THEY" (unlike you), are ALEADY, preparED TO serve the Lord, ACCORDING TO HIS WAY, (unlike you, unprepared, and think you are serving the Lord with the understanding of your carnal mind, which IS YOUR WAY, and a FAIL.)
Rom 8:7
BECAUSE the carnal mind is AGAINST God...
You should STOP trying to pretend you ARE the teacher, and BE THE STUDENT, and learn the Truth, and become Saved and Born Again.
It's embarrassing to watch you day after day tout yourself as A teacher, while you yourself wonder IF you ARE saved.
You SHOULD go learn WHO the TEACHER IS!
Because it is NOT YOU.
It IS the Lord Jesus Himself!
And IF you go LEARN the TRUTH, you would ALSO Learn WHO, the TRUE HOLY FATHER is...
Cause it AIN'T some earthly man elected By earthly men!
And again - as I have had to school you DOZENS of times now - salvation is a process, not a one-time event (Matt. 24:13, Rom. 5:9–10, 1 Cor. 3:12–15, 1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, 7:1, Phil. 2:12, Heb 12:14).

I and others have also had to educate you on the fact that no matter HOW much you think you don't sin - the Bible says differently (1 John 1:8).
YOUR problem is that you are at ODDS with the Word of God - and you're just too full of pride to admit it . . .
 
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Same thing Bread... I found great synonyms for "redemption" on the new Thesaurus.com!
Salvation and redemption are both in Christ and what He did on the cross, not what we do. The ransom has been paid in full. This is why salvation is a gift.
Titus 2:11-14 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age, waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to redeem (lutroó) us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.
1 Pet 1:18-23 For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed (lutroó) from the empty way of life handed down to you from your ancestors, 19but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect. 20He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake. 21Through him you believe in God, who raised him from the dead and glorified him, and so your faith and hope are in God. 22Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the truth so that you have sincere love for each other, love one another deeply, from the heart. 23For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God.

lutroó: to release by paying a ransom, to redeem
Original Word: λυτρόω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: lutroó
Phonetic Spelling: (loo-tro'-o)
Short Definition: I ransom, liberate, deliver
Definition: I release on receipt of ransom; mid: I redeem, release by paying ransom, liberate.
Rom 8:22-25 We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. 23Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption (apolutrósis) of our bodies. 24For in this hope we were saved. But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what they already have? 25But if we hope for what we do not yet have, we wait for it patiently.
Eph 1:7 In him we have redemption (apolutrósis) through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace
Eph 1:13-14 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption (apolutrósis) of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.
Eph 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption (apolutrósis).
Col 1:12-14 and giving joyful thanks to the Father, who has qualified you to share in the inheritance of his holy people in the kingdom of light. 13For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, 14in whom we have redemption (apolutrósis), the forgiveness of sins.
Heb 9:14-15 How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so that we may serve the living God! 15For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that he has died as a ransom (apolutrósis) to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.
apolutrósis: a release effected by payment of ransom

Original Word: ἀπολύτρωσις, εως, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: apolutrósis
Phonetic Spelling: (ap-ol-oo'-tro-sis)
Short Definition: redemption, deliverance
Definition: release effected by payment of ransom; redemption, deliverance.
And you can argue until you're blue in the face - but your point is LOST if you think that everybody will be saved.
This is the heresy of Universalism - and it's anti-Biblical . . .
 

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For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9Not of works, lest any man should boast.
You keep posting this as if somebody was disagreeing with you . . .