Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

[David in NJ]

Believe you me my friend i am like a fat kid who upon entering a store saw all the candy he could and
signs saying FREE for all . WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE COMING OF THE LORD and being forever with HIIM .
THERE JUST aint no home , LIKE HOME .
When i view most all of christendom all i get is vexation and sorrow of spirit , deep weeping
for souls that have no idea what they have lost and that they themselves are LOST .
ALL i see is twisters of HIS WORDS to suit whatever tickles their ear .
I SEE SO FEW , SO few who truly LOVE the LORD anymore david . THIS is not an accusation
its a fact that has brought tears to me eyes more than once .
SO allow me some parting words .
IF A MAN DOES NOT LOVE THE TRUTH , THEN that man DOES NOT LOVE HE WHO IS THE TRUTH .
and by golly EVER WORD OF GOD IS TRUTH and it our meat . I STAND on that david .
I DO . IF a man claims to love JESUS and yet sure seems to omit THINGS HE said
and heeds lies and men who twists such words , THEN THAT MAN IS DECEIVED and has DECIEVED HIMSELF
and DOES NOT KNOW , OR LOVE GOD OR HIS CHRIST .
For if we cannot love THE TRUTH
OF the lovely words HE inspired , , then who are we really been loving all along .
GOD aint the author of a lie . GOD aint in the business of twisting and omitting his own words
To lie . BUT THE DEVIL SURE IS . and men are trapped in the bondage of sin and
in total darkness and yet say WE SEE THE LIGHT , we LOVE GOD , WE LOVE HIS CHRIST . but they love LIES
and flesh pleasing things . I say it and call it like it is david . Not because i hate anyone
but because someone has got to do something to wake this people UP . we gots wolves all over christendom .
DO you ever wonder WHY its so hard to find a church . DO you ever wonder why
People are so fast to accuse and to attack you when you bring truth that exposes their sin .
THIS THE APOSETLS WOULD NOT have done . THIS PEOPLE IS DECIEvED david .

IF A MAN DOES NOT LOVE THE TRUTH , THEN that man DOES NOT LOVE HE WHO IS THE TRUTH .
and by golly EVER WORD OF GOD IS TRUTH and it our meat . I STAND on that david .

Together in the Holy Spirit, there at the Feet of YAHweh Yeshua HaMashiach we stand = Ephesians ch6

Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness, and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one

 

[David in NJ]

Can you please give me a few verses for these references

Sure thing

Start in the Beginning = Genesis

Genesis holds the very First Prophecy of MESSIAH and His Suffering for our sins and His Victory over satan.

Please read Genesis chapter 3 carefully - thank you Doug

 

[amigo de christo]

Together in the Holy Spirit, there at the Feet of YAHweh Yeshua HaMashiach we stand = Ephesians ch6

Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness, and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one

and we must never get caught up with any movements my friend .
not jewish or gentile movements . Always remember that . those within the jewish movements
are just as deceptive as those within the gentile ones .
I never seen anything like what i am seeing now my friend . the devil has infiltrated EVERYTHING .
TIME for bibles and prayers . Time for procliaming the truth
and not to fear what man can do to us . This society IS GONNA HATE US BIG TIME david .
And that would include the denominations and all .
An utter deadly delusoin has been unleashed unto a continually GOD rejecting christendom and all .
And it will TAKE anyone and everyone WHO IS NOT IN THE LAMBS BOOK of LIFE .
This generation IS IN DEADLY DIRE TROUBLE . And we must do exploits . always correcting and always speaking
and living the TRUTH .

 

[David in NJ]

and we must never get caught up with any movements my friend .
not jewish or gentile movements . Always remember that . those within the jewish movements
are just as deceptive as those within the gentile ones .
I never seen anything like what i am seeing now my friend . the devil has infiltrated EVERYTHING .
TIME for bibles and prayers . Time for procliaming the truth
and not to fear what man can do to us . This society IS GONNA HATE US BIG TIME david .
And that would include the denominations and all .
An utter deadly delusoin has been unleashed unto a continually GOD rejecting christendom and all .
And it will TAKE anyone and everyone WHO IS NOT IN THE LAMBS BOOK of LIFE .
This generation IS IN DEADLY DIRE TROUBLE . And we must do exploits . always correcting and always speaking
and living the TRUTH .

Yeah, the Holy Spirit has taken me to many different denominations so that i can be free from "every wind of doctrine of man".

ALWAYS comparing the words we hear with the words of our Heavenly FATHER.

 

[amigo de christo]

Yeah, the Holy Spirit has taken me to many different denominations so that i can be free from "every wind of doctrine of man".

ALWAYS comparing the words we hear with the words of our Heavenly FATHER.

Mir auch meine bruder . I visited many a church
and was left empty . the praise time i always enjoyed
but the doctrine and teachings left me empty . BIBLE NEVER DID .
any guesses on why that was . OH i soon learned . They was teaching errors my friend .
and yet so many loved those errors . couldnt get enough of them as they just oowed and awed under such men .
Same with TBN . early on i tried to turn it on too .
But again empty . BUT THE BIBLE never left me feeling empty but rather VERY FILLED my friend .
GOD KNOWS his sheep my friend and HE sure do change hearts . PUTS A REAL LOVE in our hearts .
And believe me when i do say , IT PUTS HIM , CHRIST FIRST BEFORE ALL , IT LOVES HIS WORDS my friend .
That love cometh of GOD . but beware for many have a love
and they THINK its of GOD . but clearly its a love of the world , NOT HIS WORDS , NOT HIS TRUTH . facts are facts friend .
I aint being mean or judgmental at all . I am truly in deep terror for this generation .
THEY ABOUTS TO HUG BUDDA AND EVERYTHING , AND THEY HATRED of THE TRUTH is going viral and gets worse
BUT THEY THINK its all of GOD .
My suggestion . BIBLE TIME . TIME for any and for all who name the name OF JESUS the CHRIST
to actually GET IN THE BIBLE TO LEARN OF HIM . cause men AINT GETTING the job done at all , THEY FLEECING folks .

 

[Doug]

Sure thing

Start in the Beginning = Genesis

Genesis holds the very First Prophecy of MESSIAH and His Suffering for our sins and His Victory over satan.

Please read Genesis chapter 3 carefully - thank you Doug

sorry thats not specific.....I need verses you say speak of the new covenant......I may not see what you are referring to....thanks

 

[CadyandZoe]

How can you act as if Jeremiah 31 isn't related to the new covenant when Hebrews 8:6-13 explicitly applies Jeremiah 31:31-34 (quoted in Hebrews 8:8-12) to the new covenant?

Did I say that Jeremiah 31 is not related to the New Covenant? No. I didn't say that. What you and others miss is the fact that Jeremiah 31:31-34 is a promise that contains a covenant. As Jesus and the Apostles teach, the Covenant aspect is a promise to forgive sins and remember them no more. The promise aspect is "They will not teach, "Know the Lord" because they will all know me from the least of them to the greatest of them.

The author of Hebrews related Jeremiah 31:31-34 to the new covenant.

I agree. But he quotes the passage to prove that the Old Covenant has/had an expiration date.

Let's talk about this. Do you know that God is not a respecter of persons? Which means He does not show favoritism in relation to salvation because of one's nationality?

That is not what that means. Being a respecter of persons means that one gives favoritism to the rich and powerful. But God is a racist in that he chose to favor a people with his blessings and his wisdom. After all, only a son in direct line with David can be king of Israel. Only a Levite can serve as a priest.

So, keeping in mind that God does not show favoritism in relation to salvation, why would you think He would miraculously save all people in one nation one day purely because of their nationality?

This is what the Bible teaches, contrary to your allergy to God's choice.

 

[CadyandZoe]

It comes from the NT scripture that sheds light on the Jeremiah passage, but I know you don't believe that the NT sheds light on the OT, so you're not going to understand that.

No. Your prior assumption concerning the End Times affects your interpretation of the New Testament. You and the others refuse to consider passages that directly contradict your preunderstanding.

 

[CadyandZoe]

All Israelites past, present, and future who receive Christ know the Lord, and receive His New Covenant.

That is beside the point. Jeremiah's point is that there will come a time when God will circumcise the hearts of all the Israelite survivors. Israelites, who aren't into cosplay know who they are.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Did I say that Jeremiah 31 is not related to the New Covenant? No. I didn't say that.

LOL. What then did you mean when you said "People often confuse Jeremiah 31 with the New Covenant"? Can you not see how that statement comes across?

That is not what that means. Being a respecter of persons means that one gives favoritism to the rich and powerful. But God is a racist in that he chose to favor a people with his blessings and his wisdom. After all, only a son in direct line with David can be king of Israel. Only a Levite can serve as a priest.

Did you not even read the passage? Where does it say anything about God not giving favoritism to the rich and powerful? And, you're saying God is a racist? I cannot believe some of the outrageous nonsense that you say!

Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: 5 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

This is what the Bible teaches, contrary to your allergy to God's choice.

So, you are a Calvinist then?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

No. Your prior assumption concerning the End Times affects your interpretation of the New Testament. You and the others refuse to consider passages that directly contradict your preunderstanding.

I say the same about you. You are being hypocritical here.

 

[David in NJ]

sorry thats not specific.....I need verses you say speak of the new covenant......I may not see what you are referring to....thanks

What did you read in chapter 3 when God called satan forward?

 

[covenantee]

That is beside the point. Jeremiah's point is that there will come a time when God will circumcise the hearts of all the Israelite survivors. Israelites, who aren't into cosplay know who they are.

How will God know who they are? What are His Scriptural identification criteria?

 

[covenantee]

But God is a racist in that he chose to favor a people with his blessings and his wisdom.

Including these?

Numbers 25
9 And those that died in the plague were twenty and four thousand.

 

[amigo de christo]

What did you read in chapter 3 when God called satan forward?

He shall crush thy head and thou shalt bruise his heel .
That is what I SEEN my friend . And there is a real deep meaning behind it too . as i am sure you are aware of it my friend .
God always knew what he was gonna have to do in order to reconcile man back to Him .
And in thy seed . Someone was to COME many many years later
to fullfill . And we both KNOW who that was speaking about . CHRIST the GLORIOUS KING o kings
the LORD and savoir of our souls and the giver of LIFE . Now to the trenches david . ITS all out war in these last hours .
AND ITS TIME to POINT TO CHRIST JESUS and ER lovely word of truth n them scriptures again .

 

[amigo de christo]

Yeah, the Holy Spirit has taken me to many different denominations so that i can be free from "every wind of doctrine of man".

ALWAYS comparing the words we hear with the words of our Heavenly FATHER.

From every wind of doctrines of men gone wrong . whereby the so easily lie in wait to decieve .
ITS BIBLE TIME my friends . THEM WORDS i KNOW are TRUE and TRUTH
its men who must always be tested on anything and everything they do utter from their mouths .
Including myself . we all must be tested , BUT NOT by feelings , not by mens doctrines
BUT BY BIBLCAL TRUTH . OH yes , ITS BIBLE TIME in the building .
Here ye the tale of two men .
There once lived two men and they went about their lives .
They both sat one day and heard a man preaching the gospel
and that day they both went down to recieve the call .
We shall call one reader of the most holy book
and the other , He who lives by which seemeth and feeleth right .
They both attended churches
but reader of the most holy book could not be so easily fullfilled by what the preachers often taught
and yet he who liveth by emotions always seemed so joyed up and filled up by what the preachers taught .
The one kept trying to tell his friend , you need to be learning the bible and enjoying it for yourself .
But he was fast to answer , I cannot understand it , NOR CAN YOU , dont you listen to our pastors .
THEY know what is best . THEY KNOW we cannot learn it on our own . We need the popular books
to learn from and greek , and hermes .
To which His friend answered him , They lie to you my friend . GOD almighty
can surely GIVE us the understanding of the very SCRIPS HE HIMSELF inspired . WE dont need all that
man learned stuff to understand , all we need IS TO TRUST IN GOD .
To which his friend laughed and said , YOU sound like one of them crazy fundamentals .
Dont you know that is how all these divisions came about , cause men read for themselves and everyone had a diffferent view .
TO which the other man said
NO sir . They again lie to us but use a partial truth .
If anyone truly had LOVED GOD they could easily have learned the scrips . IF you examine
those leaders who brought these other denoninations , you would have seen they had a problem from the beginning .
TO which his friend said , OH hogwash . YOU a fundie
You cannot get people to agree on the bible .
TO which his friend answered , THEN how come the few i know
who read it together and just enjoy it COME TO THE SAME understanding . AND THEY DONT TWIST
areas to fit other doctrines , they just understand .
To which his friend replied , You just dont get it fundie .
To which he then replied , AND HOW do you KNOW what your own pastors are telling you
is TRUTH . I mean their greek dont even agree , their own hermes often contradicts the others .
To which he said , because IT MAKES ME FEEL GOOD . SO I KNOW ITS TRUTH .
SO the two men departed , but not after he who read the holy book said ,
THERE IS A way WHICH SEEMS right unto a man but the end is death .
YE cannot live by emotions and trusting in men
WE were to have lived BY EVERY WORD of GOD .

 

[David in NJ]

He shall crush thy head and thou shalt bruise his heel .
That is what I SEEN my friend . And there is a real deep meaning behind it too . as i am sure you are aware of it my friend .
God always knew what he was gonna have to do in order to reconcile man back to Him .
And in thy seed . Someone was to COME many many years later
to fullfill . And we both KNOW who that was speaking about . CHRIST the GLORIOUS KING o kings
the LORD and savoir of our souls and the giver of LIFE . Now to the trenches david . ITS all out war in these last hours .
AND ITS TIME to POINT TO CHRIST JESUS and ER lovely word of truth n them scriptures again .

God always knew

BINGO

“Remember this, and show yourselves men;
Recall to mind, O you transgressors.
Remember the former things of old,
For I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is none like Me,
Declaring the end from the beginning,
And from ancient times things that are not yet done,
Saying, ‘My counsel shall stand,
And I will do all My pleasure,’
Isaiah ch46

 

[CadyandZoe]

LOL. What then did you mean when you said "People often confuse Jeremiah 31 with the New Covenant"? Can you not see how that statement comes across?

Sure. I see what you mean. Posting on a message board is a restrictive form of communication.

Did you not even read the passage?

Another insult?

Where does it say anything about God not giving favoritism to the rich and powerful?

The concept is well defined. What other motivation would tempt a judge to render a judgment not based on the law and the facts of the case, if not money? Do you think little old ladies with limited income will get a fair trial from a corrupt judge?

God is impartial, and since we have all sinned and fallen short of God's glory, all men are condemned to die. If God decided to give everyone what they deserved, then we would all be thrown into hell. While justice demands a fair hearing and sentence, mercy is not like justice. God can have mercy on whomever he wants. If he wants to have mercy on those who believe in his son, he is right to do so. If he wants to have mercy on an entire nation all at once, he is not being unfair.

And, you're saying God is a racist? I cannot believe some of the outrageous nonsense that you say!

I acknowledge that my previous statement may come across as shocking. However, it is essential for us to approach the Biblical narrative with care, avoiding the imposition of our cultural taboos onto it. Throughout history, God’s relationship with Israel has been marked by a clear preference for Jacob and his lineage. To claim differently is to overlook a fundamental aspect of how God interacts with humanity—a truth that is both evident and striking.

Will you deny that God restricted kingship over Israel to the sons of David, a restriction that is solely based on primogeniture? One can hardly deny Paul's argument that Jesus was qualified to be the Messiah based on his lineage. Romans 1:3

Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: 5 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

So, you are a Calvinist then?

It is interesting that you mentioned Acts 10:34, where Peter talks about persons in every nation that fear God. Malachi also speaks about those who fear God, declaring that they will not be subject to fire and burning during the Great and Terrible day of the Lord.

I am not a Calvinist. If you want a label, I am a Biblicist -- a person who studies the Bible to be taught by the prophets and the apostles, interpreting their words according to their intended meaning.

 

[CadyandZoe]

I say the same about you. You are being hypocritical here.

Yes, I agree that you say the same thing about me. So, I tested you to see if you might see yourself as others see you. Surely you have read hundreds of my posts. I never attack the presumed motives behind what someone says. Until my previous post, I never told you that you are influenced by your presuppositions. I assume, as you do, that we are all influenced by them. I make it a practice to avoid these kinds of arguments or statements.

Who better to love you with the honest truth than your opponent? Let's stop labeling people and challenging each other's motives. I want an honest discussion and a fair appraisal of the text at hand. Can we do that?

 

[CadyandZoe]

How will God know who they are? What are His Scriptural identification criteria?

God possesses profound awareness of each individual, understanding their essence deeply. He assures us that not even a single grain will fall to the ground unnoticed or unaccounted for. Throughout scripture, God often addresses His followers through the lens of their ethnic identities, highlighting their cultural and historical significance. A prime example of this is the Exodus from Egypt, a pivotal event in Israel's heritage that marks their liberation and encapsulates their collective identity and enduring legacy as a people.

This theme is found in the Jeremiah passage when God says, "Behold, days are coming when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them.” Not only are the Patriarchs a part of Israel's ethnic identity, but their flight from Egypt and the covenant that God made with Israel are also aspects of their ethnic identity.

Paul summarizes Israel's ethnic identity this way, "[M]y brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh, who are Israelites, to whom belongs the adoption as sons, and the glory and the covenants and the giving of the Law and the temple service and the promises, whose are the fathers, and from whom is the Christ according to the flesh, who is over all, God blessed forever." Romans 9:4-5 Here the apostle lists the most significant aspects of Israeli ethnic identity. These aspects and others mark them as a unique people among all the other peoples of the world.

As you rightfully pointed out, Israel includes citizens who are not in Jacob's lineage, and yet they are considered to be Israelites. For example, the genealogy in Matthew mentions women like Tamar, Rahab, Ruth, and Bathsheba. Rahab was a Canaanite, and Ruth was a Moabite, meaning they were not Israelites by birth. These inclusions highlight the diverse and inclusive nature of Jesus' ancestry, reflecting God's grace and the broader scope of salvation history. But for our discussion, the relevant point is Israelite ethnicity.

Ruth, originally a Moabite, did not become ethnically Israelite in the sense of changing her ancestry. However, she embraced the Israelite faith and culture through her famous declaration to Naomi: "Your people shall be my people, and your God my God" (Ruth 1:16). This marked her spiritual and cultural integration into the Israelite community.

The Jeremiah passage records God's promise to that community, promising them to circumcise their hearts and bring them all to saving faith.