Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

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Ritajanice

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He's a fake and there's several others like that on here as well. He won't even address any questions we ask him or any of the points that we make. He just says we're wrong and that's it and does nothing to back it up.
I wouldn’t call him a fake, but, I definitely agree with the rest of your post...I hope he takes note.

I took note when he said I had pride/ ego..he was right and I amended my post to him.

God did speak to me about my ego through him...that’s why I amended my post to him...if we can’t admit to being wrong at times..or admit that we don’t understand some questions..then how can we expect to hear from God...God hates pride/ ego..we need to be open and honest...make ourselves vulnerable......rant over lol...back to topic.
 

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I wouldn’t call him a fake, but, I definitely agree with the rest of your post...I hope he takes note.
I just meant that in the sense of being a hypocrite, which you agreed that he is. Or, at least, in terms of what was being talked about here. Not that he always is.

I took note when he said I had pride/ ego..he was right and I amended my post to him.

God did speak to me about my ego through him...that’s why I amended my post to him...if we can’t admit to being wrong at times..or admit that we don’t understand some questions..then how can we expect to hear from God...God hates pride/ ego..we need to be open and honest...make ourselves vulnerable......rant over lol...back to topic.
He was being prideful by coming on here and ranting at Scott for not knowing better and then proceeding to do nothing to address his points.
 
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I just meant that in the sense of being a hypocrite, which you agreed that he is. Or, at least, in terms of what was being talked about here. Not that he always is.
Oh yes, I’m in agreement with his hypocrisy...
He was being prideful by coming on here and ranting at Scott for not knowing better and then proceeding to do nothing to address his points.
I agree...I have to admit I too have come into some threads, like a bull in a china shop...just like David....it’s how we address people is the key...I’m constantly asking God to help me in that area...by checking how i address people.....I’m still learning to address people respectfully.as I so want to please God......I still have my moments.lol.
 

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Oh yes, I’m in agreement with his hypocrisy...

I agree...I have to admit I too have come into some threads, like a bull in a china shop...just like David....it’s how we address people is the key...I’m constantly asking God to help me in that area...by checking how i address people.....I’m still learning to address people respectfully.as I so want to please God......I still have my moments.lol.
We all do. If I did what David did here, I would expect people to call me out for it. There's no excuse for that, and I include myself in that.
 
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We all do. If I did what David did here, I would expect people to call me out for it. There's no excuse for that, and I include myself in that.
Same here, Brother, he called me out and I amended my post....my ego didn’t like it when the Lord called me out through him....I relented and amended my post to him.....we need to become humble before the Lord..
 

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I would ask the same...only an amil could twist the resurrection into an occupation of David's throne. hlf
Oh yes, how could we possibly think that Christ's resurrection would be the means by which He would receiver power and authority? How silly of us. I guess you must think Paul is an idiot for writing this...

Ephesians 1:19 and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is the same as the mighty strength 20 he exerted when he raised Christ from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, 21 far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every name that is invoked, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. 22 And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, 23 which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.

Was Paul twisting Christ's resurrection into an occupation of His throne "far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every name that is invoked, not only in the present age but also in the one to come" while placing "all things under his feet" and appointing "him to be head over everything for the church"?
 
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LOL.....David never ruled in heaven!
LOL. Your have such a carnal mind, babe in Christ.

1 Corinthians 3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. 2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
 
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you Bible translation causes error .......Jesus shed his blood for the new testament.....a testament required the death of a testator to be in effect Heb 9:16-17....Jesus stated his will in Matthew 26:28 [Mat 26:28 KJV] 28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins......the new covenant will be made not has been[Jer 31:31 KJV] 31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:..............The new covenant will be made when Israel is in the promised land [Eze 36:24 KJV] 24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
No, that Bible translation was quite accurate. The new testament and new covenant are the same. You are sadly mistaken. Scripture says the new covenant was established by Christ long ago which took away the old covenant and made it obsolete and you are ignoring that.

Hebrews 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. 7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

Hebrews 10:9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. 10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
 

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Brought Near by His Blood​

11 Therefore remember that you, once Gentiles in the flesh—who are called Uncircumcision by what is called the Circumcision made in the flesh by hands—

12 that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world.

13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ.

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The above from Ephesians 2. written to a gentile church, tells us gentiles are a part of the covenant God has made for all men of all races when they believe in Christ

Therefore, the New Covenant that God made is for all nations of all people, if they believe.

Paul wrote this to the Corinthians GENTILE church, and Paul gives this to the gentiles as from the Lord Jesus's New Covenant, that it is for them.

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1 Corinthians 11

Institution of the Lord’s Supper​

23 For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you: that the Lord Jesus on the same night in which He was betrayed took bread;

24 and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, [d]“Take, eat; this is My body which is [e]broken for you; do this in remembrance of Me.”

25 In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.”

26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death till He comes.
 

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The New Covenant
(Jeremiah 31:26–40)

6Now, however, Jesus has received a much more excellent ministry, just as the covenant He mediates is better and is founded on better promises. 7For if that first covenant had been without fault, no place would have been sought for a second. 8But God found fault with the people and said:

“Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord,

when I will make a new covenant

with the house of Israel

and with the house of Judah.

9It will not be like the covenant

I made with their fathers

when I took them by the hand

to lead them out of the land of Egypt,

because they did not abide by My covenant,

and I disregarded them,

declares the Lord.
10For this is the covenant I will make

with the house of Israel

after those days,

declares the Lord.

I will put My laws in their minds

and inscribe them on their hearts.

And I will be their God,

and they will be My people.

11No longer will each one teach his neighbor or his brother,

saying, ‘Know the Lord,’

because they will all know Me,

from the least of them to the greatest.

12For I will forgive their iniquities

and will remember their sins no more.”b

13By speaking of a new covenant,c He has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.
 

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In Romans 9, Paul includes the gentiles into the New Covenant promises
"For they are not all Israel who are of Israel,"
Believing gentiles are of the Israel of God, as they have become the children of God


Romans 9 for reference

I tell the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Spirit, 2 that I have great sorrow and continual grief in my heart. 3 For I could wish that I myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my [a]countrymen according to the flesh, 4 who are Israelites, to whom pertain the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the service of God, and the promises; 5 of whom are the fathers and from whom, according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen.

Israel’s Rejection and God’s Purpose​

6 But it is not that the word of God has taken no effect. For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, 7 nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.” 8 That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed. 9 For this is the word of promise: “At this time I will come and Sarah shall have a son.”

10 And not only this, but when Rebecca also had conceived by one man, even by our father Isaac 11 (for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls), 12 it was said to her, “The older shall serve the younger.” 13 As it is written, “Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated.”

Israel’s Rejection and God’s Justice​

14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Certainly not! 15 For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion.” 16 So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to the Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth.” 18 Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens.

19 You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?” 20 But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, “Why have you made me like this?” 21 Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?

22 What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, 24 even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

25 As He says also in Hosea:

“I will call them My people, who were not My people,
And her beloved, who was not beloved.”
26 “And it shall come to pass in the place where it was said to them,
‘You are not My people,’
There they shall be called sons of the living God.”
 

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so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is (false) or (true)?
We learn the teachings of Jesus Christ and live the teachings in our lives, which affect those around us. The teachings of Jesus Christ reign on us, and through us reign on and influence the world.

2 Peter 3:8
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Live every day as Jesus Christ reign on us.

So be it, that is it, no other way of it.

If you have a better idea, please propose it.
 

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Speaking of Issac in Romans 9, Paul also teaches us this in Galatians 4
Both written to the gentiles, not jews.

28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are children of promise.

29 But, as he who was born according to the flesh then persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, even so it is now.

30 Nevertheless what does the Scripture say? “Cast out the bondwoman and her son, for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.” 31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman but of the free.

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To be of this New Covenant, all you need to be is as Isaac was, children of the promise, born again according to the Spirit of God. And that makes you of the Israel of God.

Galatians 3


26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
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Christ is our mediator in the New Covenant
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19 What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was appointed through angels by the hand of a mediator. 20 Now a mediator does not mediate for one only, but God is one.

21 Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not! For if there had been a law given which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the law. 22 But the Scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.

23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, [f]kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed.

24 Therefore the law was our [g]tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.

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Hebrews 9:15
And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.

You cannot have Christ as our mediator apart and separated from the New Covenant.
This is an all or nothing thing of God. If you are not included in the New Covenant, you not part of the family of God whom God saves.
 

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You cannot have Christ as our mediator apart and separated from the New Covenant.
This is an all or nothing thing of God. If you are not included in the New Covenant, you not part of the family of God whom God saves
Matthew 1:21
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New International Version
She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, because he will save his people from their sins.”

New Living Translation
And she will have a son, and you are to name him Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.”

English Standard Version
She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.”

Berean Standard Bible
She will give birth to a Son, and you are to give Him the name Jesus, because He will save His people from their sins.”
 

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so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is (false) or (true)?
We learn the teachings of Jesus Christ and live the teachings in our lives, which affect those around us. The teachings of Jesus Christ reign on us, and through us reign on and influence the world.

2 Peter 3:8
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Live every day as Jesus Christ reign on us.

So be it, that is it, no other way of it.

If you have a better idea, please propose it.
Read in context what Peter wrote there. Peter was refuting the scoffers who were saying Where is the promise of His coming?
Peter says 1000 years is like a day to God, like the blink of an eye in the life of God. That time long ago when Christ spoke of His returning is as if only a day has passed for God.

Other interesting thing is this has come true for us today, it has been 2000 years now, and we are 2000 years long into the last days.

2 Peter 3
Beloved, I now write to you this second epistle (in both of which I stir up your pure minds by way of reminder), 2 that you may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of [a]us, the apostles of the Lord and Savior, 3 knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, 4 and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.” 5 For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, 6 by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. 7 But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and [b]perdition of ungodly men.

8 But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward [c]us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.

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Christ told us it would be a while before His returning which scoffers conveniently forget.


Luke 19

11 Now as they heard these things, He spoke another parable, because He was near Jerusalem and because they thought the kingdom of God would appear immediately. 12 Therefore He said: “A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom and to return. 13 So he called ten of his servants, delivered to them ten [e]minas, and said to them, ‘Do business till I come.’ 14 But his citizens hated him, and sent a delegation after him, saying, ‘We will not have this man to reign over us.’

15 “And so it was that when he returned, having received the kingdom, he then commanded these servants, to whom he had given the money, to be called to him, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading. 16 Then came the first, saying, ‘Master, your mina has earned ten minas.’ 17 And he said to him, ‘Well done, good servant; because you were faithful in a very little, have authority over ten cities.’ 18 And the second came, saying, ‘Master, your mina has earned five minas.’ 19 Likewise he said to him, ‘You also be over five cities.’

20 “Then another came, saying, ‘Master, here is your mina, which I have kept put away in a handkerchief. 21 For I feared you, because you are [f]an austere man. You collect what you did not deposit, and reap what you did not sow.’ 22 And he said to him, ‘Out of your own mouth I will judge you, you wicked servant. You knew that I was an austere man, collecting what I did not deposit and reaping what I did not sow. 23 Why then did you not put my money in the bank, that at my coming I might have collected it with interest?’

24 “And he said to those who stood by, ‘Take the mina from him, and give it to him who has ten minas.’ 25 (But they said to him, ‘Master, he has ten minas.’) 26 ‘For I say to you, that to everyone who has will be given; and from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 27 But bring here those enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, and slay them before me.’ ”
 
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OT was a foreshadow of MESSIAH and was temporary = Hebrews 10:1-4

For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect. For then would they not have ceased to be offered? For the worshipers, once purified, would have had no more consciousness of sins.
But in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year.
For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins.
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Today is Pesach/Passover where MESSIAH is our Passover Lamb = John 1:29

The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!
Yes the OT sacrifices could never take away sins.....[Rom 3:24-26 KJV] 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth [to be] a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26 To declare, [I say], at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

God could forgive OT Israel and be just in doing so by the blood of Christ
 

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I would ask the same...only an amil could twist the resurrection into an occupation of David's throne. hlf
The text tells us: David has been reigning on David's throne since the resurrection. He has the key of David now. Your fight is with the Book. Not Amils.

This why every reader should reject Premil. It butchers the Word of God.
 
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