Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

[Doug]

You need to allow the New Testament to shed light on the Old Testament for you. Are you saying that you don't think the new covenant is established yet even though scripture explicitly says it is? Do you somehow not understand that the new covenant was established by the blood of Christ?

Luke 22:20 In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.

Hebrews 8:6 But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises. 7 For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another.

Hebrews 10:9 Then he said, “Here I am, I have come to do your will.” He sets aside the first to establish the second. 10 And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

You need to allow the New Testament to shed light on the Old Testament for you. Are you saying that you don't think the new covenant is established yet even though scripture explicitly says it is? Do you somehow not understand that the new covenant was established by the blood of Christ?

the new covenant has not been established yet it will be in the millennium kingdom

 

[David in NJ]

Childish response again. Are you afraid to tell me how you interpret 2 Peter 3:10-13?

Childish response again.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

the new covenant has not been established yet it will be in the millennium kingdom

I am just shocked whenever I see a Christian say something like this because I know that Jesus established the new covenant when He shed His blood on the cross while making the old covenant obsolete at the same time. The new covenant is all about Jesus and His sacrifice.

How exactly do you think the new covenant becomes established?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Childish response again.

It's childish for me to ask you how you interpret 2 Peter 3:10-13? So, you are afraid to address any challenges to your view. I see.

 

[Doug]

Seriously? You need to (1) move out of the OT and move into the NT and (2) take off your Premil glasses and you will quickly see we are a holy priesthood, we are kings and priests now.

please tell me where Paul not Peter says we are a priesthood

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

please tell me where Paul not Peter says we are a priesthood

Why do you not accept it that Peter says we are?

John says that we are, also.

Revelation 1:5 and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. 6 To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, 6 and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father—to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.

 

[David in NJ]

It's childish for me to ask you how you interpret 2 Peter 3:10-13? So, you are afraid to address any challenges to your view. I see.

#1 - It is a childish response to say "childish response" when no such wordage was substantiated by your "childish response"

#2 - You were asked: "What part of 2 Peter 3:10-13 are you missing?"

#3 - Review 2 Peter 3:10-13 and allow the Holy Spirit to determine the outcome based on the entirety of Scripture.

This is what is expected from us from our Heavenly FATHER = Matt 4:4 , Matt 18:1-7 , 2 Peter 1:20

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

#1 - It is a childish response to say "childish response" when no such wordage was substantiated by your "childish response"

#2 - You were asked: "What part of 2 Peter 3:10-13 are you missing?"

#3 - Review 2 Peter 3:10-13 and allow the Holy Spirit to determine the outcome based on the entirety of Scripture.

This is what is expected from us from our Heavenly FATHER = Matt 4:4 , Matt 18:1-7 , 2 Peter 1:20

You indicate that you think I'm missing something in 2 Peter 3:10-13 and refuse to tell me what that is and refuse to tell me how you interpret it. That is very childish of you.

 

[David in NJ]

You indicate that you think I'm missing something in 2 Peter 3:10-13 and refuse to tell me what that is and refuse to tell me how you interpret it.That is very childish of you.

Well, whenever a challenge/question is posed to us we must take time and evaluate the question.

Never jump to a "childish response" for that is "That is very childish of you."

This is what is expected from us from our Heavenly FATHER = Matt 4:4 , Matt 18:1-7 , 2 Peter 1:20

 

[Doug]

No He is coming in His glory to reign on the perfected earth devoid of all corruption.

No corruption???? how come there is sin in the kingdom

 

[Ritajanice]

Lol

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Well, whenever a challenge/question is posed to us we must take time and evaluate the question.

Never jump to a "childish response" for that is "That is very childish of you."

This is what is expected from us from our Heavenly FATHER = Matt 4:4 , Matt 18:1-7 , 2 Peter 1:20

So, this means you do plan to tell me how you interpret 2 Peter 3:10-13, but not right now? If so, you could have just told me that.

 

[Doug]

Peter said that Jesus was raised up to David's throne by way of being raised up from the dead.

Acts 2:29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. 30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; 31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. 32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. 33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. 34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool. 36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Notice here that Peter said there was a prophecy made by David where God told him that He would raise up Christ to sit on his (David's) throne and then said the prophecy was speaking "of the resurrection of Christ". And Peter said "This Jesus hath God raised up". By saying "This Jesus hath God raised up", he was saying that the prophecy about Jesus being raised up to sit on David's throne was fulfilled. God made Jesus "both Lord and Christ", proving that His level of power and authority had been elevated. Him being Lord means He is Master and King.

Like many OT prophecies, it has a spiritual fulfillment and not a literal fulfillment of Jesus sitting on a physical throne. You need to be willing to accept the NT explanations of the fulfillments of OT prophecies.

Jesus will sit on a literal throne

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

No corruption???? how come there is sin in the kingdom

He's talking about the new heavens and new earth that Peter said we should be looking for in fulfillment of the promise of Christ's second coming. Only righteousness will dwell there and no sin or wickedness.

2 Peter 3:13 But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Jesus will sit on a lieral throne

Why do you not address my points? It's like you didn't even read what I said at all.

Where is that literal throne now?

 

[Ritajanice]

He's talking about the new heavens and new earth that Peter said we should be looking for in fulfillment of the promise of Christ's second coming. Only righteousness will dwell there and no sin or wickedness.

2 Peter 3:13 But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.

Am I right in saying this earth is corrupt...the Lord can’t reign in this earth of ours as it is, surely?


That’s why his word says that there will be a new heaven and earth?

 

[David in NJ]

So, this means you do plan to tell me how you interpret 2 Peter 3:10-13, but not right now? If so, you could have just told me that.

Well of course.

Proper respect for each other is to ask and give ample time for overview, compilation and summation.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Am I right in saying this earth is corrupt...the Lord can’t reign in this earth of ours as it is, surely?


That’s why his word says that there will be a new heaven and earth?

Yes, exactly. He will eliminate sin and the wicked once and for all when He comes, not rule over an earth that still contains sin and the wicked.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Well of course.

Proper respect for each other is to ask and give ample time for overview, compilation and summation.

You came across that you weren't interested in answering the question. But, please, take your time in answering it. No rush.

 

[David in NJ]

You came across that you weren't interested in answering the question. But, please, take your time in answering it. No rush.

You are up first as the question was posed to you.

Take your time = FATHER is Watching