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[brightfame52]

@amigo de christo

From the angels to man all have been given the ability to choose .

Its limited by nature, those who are in the flesh cant please God Rom 8:8

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

So people in the flesh lack the ability to choose to please God

 

[brightfame52]

We don't have a sin nature either. We have a mortal nature. Christ had this same nature, a mortal nature, a nature that could die just like us. That nature came from Mary who also had a mortal nature.
Not only wrong, but contradictory as well.
You're the one sounding foolish on all points.

I dont know why Im even paying attention to your nonsense

 

[Ritajanice]

@amigo de christo



Its limited by nature, those who are in the flesh cant please God Rom 8:8

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

So people in the flesh lack the ability to choose to please God

We aren’t in the flesh...we’re in the Spirit?

Supernaturally birthed by the Living Spirit Of God.....Born Again of imperishable seed.

 

[Behold]

@amigo de christo

Its limited by nature,

Free will is not limited at all, as otherwise it would not be FREE.

Notice the phrase....>>"FREE will"... and that means you get to choose what you believe, who you believe in, and what you are going to do next.

Today, people went to Hell, by the thousands, and many of them KNEW to believe in Jesus, but they CHOSE to wait.........and others who would have gone to hell, who died today.....used their Free Will to trust in Christ.

 

[brightfame52]

Even RitaJanice has quoted your crazy statement.. "that God put the sin nature in them".

So, you'll be the one repenting of that lie, and similar that Hyper Calvinism speaks out of your deceiving mouth, on quite a few forums, ive noted.

Post the quote of mine that specifically stated that, or repent for misrepresentation

 

[brightfame52]

@Behold

Free will is not limited at all

They who are in the flesh cannot please God, thats limited

 

[Behold]

Post the quote of mine that specifically stated that, or repent for misrepresentation

I did post it.

In fact i replied to your Hyper Calvinism LIE>

Here is where it started, and notice your reply. You stated that """GOD put the sin nature in them"..

And thats a lie., among many you teach.

Not at all, God didn’t force them to Sin...

@brightfame52 ... stated. """""Yet the sin nature that God put in them did""""


Are you ready to lie more now? Well dont worry about it as the Mods here dont seem to mind, for the years you've been on this forum doing it.

 

[Behold]

They who are in the flesh cannot please God, thats limited

If they are in the flesh, they chose to be in the flesh.

See, just like you choose to Lie for "TULIP">... "The 5 Points"......on forums.......you are using your Free will against The NT Truth.. .so, you are not "Pleasing God", but you are pleasing the Devil, and you are choosing to do it... for how many years now?

That's your FREE WILL choice. @brightfame52

 

[Ritajanice]

@Behold



They who are in the flesh cannot please God, thats limited

We already know that...that’s why we must be Born Again.

Born Again of imperishable seed, that seed lives in our heart/ spirit.....as our spirit has been birthed, there is no escaping that.....not that anyone would want to.

In the world not of the world.....we are Gods property so to speak..

The flesh wants to please self....it’s our spirit that wants to please God....as it’s Born Again....

 

[brightfame52]

If they are in the flesh, they chose to be in the flesh.

See, just like you choose to Lie for "TULIP">... "The 5 Points"......on forums.......you are using your Free will against The NT Truth.. .so, you are not "Pleasing God", but you are pleasing the Devil, and you are choosing to do it... for how many years now?

That's your FREE WILL choice. @brightfame52

How can someone choose to be born naturally in the flesh ? Your posts are getting more and more bizzar

 

[brightfame52]

@Behold

I did post it.

No you did not, more deception

 

[Behold]

How can someone choose to be born naturally in the flesh ?

"in the flesh" means "carnal mind".......it means a mind that is blinded regarding the spiritual and eternal things of God., as this is the mind in every unbeliever... as this is the "adamic nature".

For example.....every unbeliever has a mind that is not spiritual, but is Carnal......."natural".. "secular".. "flesh driven".. "sin craving"... "lust filled"....."froward". ....and that is what it means to be "in the flesh", as an unbeliever.

Another understanding of "in the flesh" is related to a Christain....who has lost the correct understanding of God's Grace.

This would be a Calvinist, or a person who believes they can lose their salvation........so, this mind, is "carnal".. yet the Spirit is born again.

All heresis have 2 "fathers"..........

1.) Demonic

2.) Carnal mind

 

[Ritajanice]

Flesh gives birth to flesh.= human birth...


Spirit gives birth to spirit...= supernatural Living Spirit birth.

After we become Born Again....our carnal mind starts to be renewed....as we are in the Spirit Of Christ......we are no longer in the flesh as our spirit has been birthed.

Our spirit is Born Again, therefore we are no longer slaves to sin or our own flesh.imo.

Romans 8:9 ►

Audio Cross Study Comm Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. New Living Translation But you are not controlled by your sinful nature. You are controlled by the Spirit if you have the Spirit of God living in you. (And remember that those who do not have the Spirit of Christ living in them do not belong to him at all.) English Standard Version You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. Berean Standard Bible You, however, are controlled not by the flesh, but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.

 

[brightfame52]

@Behold

in the flesh" means "carnal mind".......it means a mind that is blinded regarding the spiritual and eternal things of God., as this is the mind in every unbeliever... as this is the "adamic nature".

Man is born the first time in the flesh Jn 3:6-7

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

So how you going to choose to be not born in the flesh. Did you choose you dob ? Did you choose your nationality ?

Until one is born again, they are in the flesh, and cannot please God

 

[Ritajanice]

@Behold



Man is born the first time in the flesh Jn 3:6-7

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

So how you going to choose to be not born in the flesh. Did you choose you dob ? Did you choose your nationality ?

Until one is born again, they are in the flesh, and cannot please God

You got that right, imo..LOL...

 

[Behold]

@Behold



So how you going to choose to be not born in the flesh.

Everyone is born, separated from God, spiritually.
Jesus came to restore us to God...... = Spiritually.

So, in the "unrestored state".. we have a mind that has free will, but the spirit is not reconciled to God, until the SIN that separates an unbeliever, from God, is forgiven, and then God "who is A Spirit".....births the BELIEVERS spirit, as "born again".

Why does this happen ?
Its because a person has used their free will to trust in Christ.

Who is allowed by God, to trust in Christ?

A.) Everyone who will believe........"all who call on the name of Jesus shall be saved". "WHOSOEVER" = John 3:16

The CROSS is for us all..............and HyperCalvinism... denies this, and that is an Attack against The Cross, Against The Savior's Blood, and Against God's Grace.

That's what you are doing., @brightfame52, and its demonic.

 

[brightfame52]

@Behold

Everyone is born, separated from God, spiritually.
Jesus came to restore us to God...... = Spiritually.

Everyone is born flesh friend

 

[Ritajanice]

Our spirit is not reconciled back to God...imo...not until God brings us to initially believe in Jesus, God also brings us to repentance....then by his will...not my will...he births us in the Spirit..only then was I able to know God in my spirit and walk in faith.

You cannot choose to become Born Again..imo...no matter how much man/ woman tries to dress it up.

We were chosen and predestined to become the children of God...my opinion/ testimony and belief.

 

[Behold]

@Behold

Everyone is born flesh friend

What you posted, makes no sense.

Listen...

Everyone is born in a body, that is human flesh..........true

And everyone inherits the "adamic nature"......"the sin nature" from Adam.........true.

And, everyone who gives THEIR faith in Christ to God, is forgiven all sin, and then receives from God, "the divine nature" as Peter explains..........true.

 

[brightfame52]

What you posted, makes no sense.

Listen...

Everyone is born in a body, that is human flesh..........true

And everyone inherits the "adamic nature"......"the sin nature" from Adam.........true.

And, everyone who gives THEIR faith in Christ to God, is forgiven all sin, and then receives from God, "the divine nature" as Peter explains..........true.

I know what I posted. Everyone is born flesh, nothing your freewill can do about it