I’m just feeding you basic church history. There was nothing more to say about our personal histories.
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I’m just feeding you basic church history. There was nothing more to say about our personal histories.
I unknowingly left Judaism.
I still thought of myself as Jewish. My army dog tag said as much.
I had no idea that true faith in Christ was to change a person.
I had no Biblical Christian teaching to refer to regeneration and it's effects.
After all.. I was brought up Jewish.
The Lord later showed me that it did change, and why I suffered painfully for almost ten years, feeling like a fish out of water.
I had no idea why I was so dramatically changed on the inside.
Nor, why I was having dreams and visions about future events.
Then it happened.
At the right time.
Bothers you too much. Doesn't it?
Go ahead... denial is a man's best friend when lost for a correct answer.
No. It doesn’t bother me enough.
You made your bed. Now it’s between you and the man whom God appointed to judge you.
You assume I do not know that information?
A presumptuous little apostate, aren't you?
It's just that so much has been developed upon what was developed in its pioneering days.
We no longer need to fetch water from a well, nor go outside to use an outhouse.
Yet, the same basic functions that brought them about remain the same.
I don’t assume anything about you. All I know about you comes from what you’ve told me here and on other forums we’ve been on together.
It must be terrible to be stuck in a scripted life.
But, easy if you have no clue as to what is really going on.
Enjoy your play-acting.
At least it is better than dedicating yourself to obedience to Allah.
“Christianity began as a Jewish sect.”
(Stephen Bedard, Early Jewish and Christian Monotheism)
Early Jewish and Christian Monotheism - History of Christianity
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I’m a 21st century member of that 1st century Jewish sect.
“Jesus was a Jew, and so were his first disciples. In fact, the earliest Christians did not think of themselves as members of a new religion separate from Judaism.”
(R.A. Spivey and D.M. Smith, Anatomy of the New Testament, 3rd ed., p. 13)
(R.A. Spivey and D.M. Smith, Anatomy of the New Testament, 3rd ed., p. 13)
A small portion of today’s reading in my daily reading plan. Interesting timing.
”If a prophet or dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder comes true, concerning which he spoke to you saying, ‘Let us go after other gods (whom you have not known) and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams; for Yahweh your God is testing you to find out if you love Yahweh your God with all your heart and with all your soul.”
(Deuteronomy 13:1-3)
After reading it a couple of questions for this trinitarian scholar came to mind.
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Not a "Jewish sect."“Christianity began as a Jewish sect.”
(Stephen Bedard, Early Jewish and Christian Monotheism)
Early Jewish and Christian Monotheism - History of Christianity
Christianity began as a Jewish sect. Judaism has a strong doctrine of monotheism. Christianity worships […]
I’m a 21st century member of that 1st century Jewish sect.
But, rather. Christianity began as being a sect, consisting of Jews.
“Christianity began as a Jewish sect in the first third of the first century C.E. and in the course of less than a century became a distinct religion whose gentile members far outnumbered Jews.”
It was not Jewish. They were nor practicing Judaism.
It was a sect consisting of Jews, who were Christian.
The NT was written by Jews by race!
“Christianity, in its earliest beginnings, is part of Judaism … it is a sect, among a number of varieties of Judaism in the Roman Empire.”
“So, what was Jesus’ religion? The simple answer is: Judaism. Jesus was a rabbi, a teacher of Judaism.”
What Religion Was Jesus? - Jews for Jesus
Historians agree, Jesus was a first-century teacher of Judaism, a rabbi. But then what kind of Judaism did Jesus teach?jewsforjesus.org
What kind of Judaism did rabbi Jesus teach?
“To call Jesus Son of God was therefore to accept the claim implied in his words and actions that he was totally obedient to the divine will, that he could give authoritative teaching about God, and that he was empowered to act as God’s authorized representative and agent. … the notion of a teacher and leader fully authorized by God, disobedience towards whom would be tantamount to repudiation of God himself, was well understood in the Old Testament.
The crucial text is Deuteronomy 18.18-20: … “
(A.E. Harvey, Jesus and the Constraints of History, p. 164)
He is discussing this in a chapter titled “Son of God: the Constraint of Monotheism”.
The crucial text is Deuteronomy 18.18-20: … “
(A.E. Harvey, Jesus and the Constraints of History, p. 164)
He is discussing this in a chapter titled “Son of God: the Constraint of Monotheism”.
“Jesus, in his teaching, his prophetic actions, and in the obedience which led to his death, was acting as God’s agent and representative on earth. It was as if, when he spoke and acted, God himself was present. In Luke’s phrase, ‘God was with him’; in Paul’s, ‘God was in Christ’. That this was so had been demonstrated by the resurrection, after which Jesus had necessarily been given the highest place, under God, which could be awarded to any living being. Christians could now confidently join in the worship and praise due to the one who had been given (again under God) a name which is above every name, and through whom the Holy Spirit was now active among those who acknowledged his lordship. It was as far as one could possibly go (these Christians felt) in ascribing unique dignity to Jesus consistently with respecting the constraint of monotheism. In later times the church, no longer perceiving the power and decisiveness of the agent-son-representative model, and having among its members men used to a more philosophical analysis, felt it necessary to go considerably further in the direction of metaphysical identity between Jesus and his heavenly father: released from the constraint of Jewish monotheism, gentile Christians began to think of Jesus as also, in some sense, God.“
(A.E. Harvey, Jesus and the Constraints of History, p. 173)
Church history brilliantly presented by this trinitarian scholar; recognizing my place on the Christian timeline without attacking or undermining historical orthodox trinitarianism.
If I had the opportunity to go back and do it all over again: as a student I would want to been required to read this book; as a professor I would make this book required reading for my trinitarian and non-trinitarian students.
I just completed reading the book for the second time. (The first time was around 25 years ago.) I’m thinking about making the reading of the last chapter an annual event.
(A.E. Harvey, Jesus and the Constraints of History, p. 173)
Church history brilliantly presented by this trinitarian scholar; recognizing my place on the Christian timeline without attacking or undermining historical orthodox trinitarianism.
If I had the opportunity to go back and do it all over again: as a student I would want to been required to read this book; as a professor I would make this book required reading for my trinitarian and non-trinitarian students.
I just completed reading the book for the second time. (The first time was around 25 years ago.) I’m thinking about making the reading of the last chapter an annual event.
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