The Rapture is About to Happen, Here's Why--Rapture?

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JESUS said HE is Coming POST-TRIB = Matthew ch24

Stop lying
You already have been shown around 10 times angels gather in heaven in your supposed only non verse you claim supports your mental eschatology.

So stop lying.
Just ridiculous how you misrepresent Holy Scriptures in your reckless quest.
 

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You already have been shown around 10 times angels gather in heaven in your supposed only non verse you claim supports your mental eschatology.

So stop lying.
Just ridiculous how you misrepresent Holy Scriptures in your rec
You already have been shown around 10 times angels gather in heaven in your supposed only non verse you claim supports your mental eschatology.

So stop lying.
Just ridiculous how you misrepresent Holy Scriptures in your reckless quest.
Look brother, there is only a "FIRST RESURRECTION" Resurrection from the DEAD "FIRST" NOT AN AIRLIFT OF THE LIVING FIRST...and then the "SECOND" DEATH. There is no secret anything in between. Making your blessed hope an event like a honeymoon is like making a "Saturday" or a "MADONA" or "70 Virgins" your blessed hope. Jesus said don't stumble over me. If you bypass the cross to glorify a Saturday, you taken glory away from the work of the cross, and that is a very good way to grieve the Holy Spirit. Good luck with whatever blessed hope you're expecting.
 

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You already have been shown around 10 times angels gather in heaven in your supposed only non verse you claim supports your mental eschatology.

So stop lying.
Just ridiculous how you misrepresent Holy Scriptures in your reckless quest.
“When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him" - Matt 25:31

We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is fitting, because your faith grows exceedingly, and the love of every one of you all abounds toward each other, so that we ourselves boast of you among the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that you endure, which is manifest evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you also suffer; since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with tribulation those who trouble you,
and to give you who are troubled rest with us
when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, - 2 Thess 2:7

“Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a dragnet that was cast into the sea and gathered some of every kind, which, when it was full, they drew to shore; and they sat down and gathered the good into vessels, but threw the bad away.
So it will be at the end of the age.
The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just, and cast them into the furnace of fire.
There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.”

Jesus said to them/@rebuilder 454, “Have you understood all these things?”
 

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“When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him" - Matt 25:31

We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is fitting, because your faith grows exceedingly, and the love of every one of you all abounds toward each other, so that we ourselves boast of you among the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that you endure, which is manifest evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you also suffer; since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with tribulation those who trouble you,
and to give you who are troubled rest with us
when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, - 2 Thess 2:7

“Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a dragnet that was cast into the sea and gathered some of every kind, which, when it was full, they drew to shore; and they sat down and gathered the good into vessels, but threw the bad away.
So it will be at the end of the age.
The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just, and cast them into the furnace of fire.
There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.”

Jesus said to them/@rebuilder 454, “Have you understood all these things?”
Nobody can lead you to truth.
It is completely futile.
 

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Nobody can lead you to truth.
It is completely futile.


STOP and THINK

When you deny exactly what God said or add to them what HE never said:

You are calling the LORD Jesus Christ a liar.

You are calling the Apostles liars.

Do you want to be judged this way???

THINK TRUTH = JESUS says: "Thy word is TRUTH"
 
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Nobody can lead you to truth.
It is completely futile.
God's desire for you is to believe His words.

But now I am coming to You; and I am saying these things while I am in the world, so that they may have My joy fulfilled within them.
I have given them Your word and the world has hated them.
For they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.

I am not asking that You take them out of the world, but that You keep them from the evil one.
They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.
Sanctify them by the truth; Your word is truth.
As You sent Me into the world, I have also sent them into the world.
For them I sanctify Myself, so that they too may be sanctified by the truth.
 
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So you think Jesus was.... telling us a lie then? View attachment 59176
It is the pretrib rapture quotes the Dave rejects.
Ask him about it.
Watch him modify, deflect, attack any challenger personally, or flat out omit the verses.
Jesus talking in mat 24,25,and at the last supper
No brainer what Jesus said.
How can you question it?
 

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STOP and THINK

When you deny exactly what God said or add to them what HE never said:

You are calling the LORD Jesus Christ a liar.

You are calling the Apostles liars.

Do you want to be judged this way???

THINK TRUTH = JESUS says: "Thy word is TRUTH"
Look in a mirror and say this;
"STOP and THINK,
When you deny exactly what God said or add to them what HE never said:
You are calling the LORD Jesus Christ a liar.
You are calling the Apostles liars.
Do you want to be judged this way???
THINK TRUTH = JESUS says: "Thy word is TRUTH""

Maybe it will help.
 

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QUOTE from writer
"Look brother, there is only a "FIRST RESURRECTION" Resurrection from the DEAD "FIRST" NOT AN AIRLIFT OF THE LIVING FIRST...and then the "SECOND" DEATH. There is no secret anything in between. Making your blessed hope an event like a honeymoon is like making a "Saturday" or a "MADONA" or "70 Virgins" your blessed hope. Jesus said don't stumble over me. If you bypass the cross to glorify a Saturday, you taken glory away from the work of the cross, and that is a very good way to grieve the Holy Spirit. Good luck with whatever blessed hope you're expecting"




Good luck when you miss the rapture.
Casting down Jesus orders to watch and be ready, while you await the false christ on a white horse.
 

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It is the pretrib rapture quotes the Dave rejects.

2nd Thess is very clear... the rapture does not happen until after the anti-christ is revealed to the world.

So the pre-trib rapture is not a thing.


while you await the false christ on a white horse

God's Word says when Jesus returns to earth for the 2nd time... He will be riding a white horse and His saints will be returning with Him at that time all in glorified bodies that are untouchable by physical death..

That is altogether a separate event from the rapture.... which is the catching away (removal) of the faithful from Earth and is not the actual 2nd return of the Lord to Earth

During the rapture, the faithful will be meeting Jesus in the sky and Jesus does not actually set foot on the Earth at that point in time.
 

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Look in a mirror and say this;
"STOP and THINK,
When you deny exactly what God said or add to them what HE never said:
You are calling the LORD Jesus Christ a liar.
You are calling the Apostles liars.
Do you want to be judged this way???
THINK TRUTH = JESUS says: "Thy word is TRUTH""

Maybe it will help.
Brother,

PLEASE post the scriptures that you claim: "I am denying"
 

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What do you guys think happened to the members of Philadelphia church? The Lord promised them something about keeping them "from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth"? (Revelation 3:10 KJV).
 

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What do you guys think happened to the members of Philadelphia church? The Lord promised them something about keeping them "from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth"? (Revelation 3:10 KJV).
Simple Truth = JESUS kept His promise to them = Numbers 6:24

“The LORD bless you and keep you;
the LORD make his face shine on you and be gracious to you;
the LORD turn his face toward you and give you peace.” ’
 

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Simple Truth = JESUS kept His promise to them = Numbers 6:24

“The LORD bless you and keep you;
the LORD make his face shine on you and be gracious to you;
the LORD turn his face toward you and give you peace.” ’
You're quoting Numbers 6:24 way out of context. You're making Christ look uncaring for the suffering of the members of the church in Smyrna (Revelation 2:8-10).
 
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You're quoting Numbers 6:24 way out of context. You're making Christ look uncaring for the suffering of the members of the church in Smyrna (Revelation 2:8-10).
You mis-understand the Promise of being 'Kept' by the LORD.

Numbers 6:24 is the FULL CONTEXT and FULFILLED PROMISE of the GOSPEL

“Whatever I tell you in the dark, speak in the light; and what you hear in the ear, preach on the housetops.
And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Are not two sparrows sold for a copper coin? And not one of them falls to the ground apart from your Father’s will. But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
Do not fear therefore; you are of more value than many sparrows.

“I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word. Now they have known that all things which You have given Me are from You. For I have given to them the words which You have given Me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came forth from You; and they have believed that You sent Me.

“I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours. And all Mine are Yours, and Yours are Mine, and I am glorified in them.
Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You.
Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are.
While I was with them in the world, I kept them in Your name.
Those whom You gave Me I have kept; and none of them is lost except the son of perdition, that the Scripture might be fulfilled. But now I come to You, and these things I speak in the world, that they may have My joy fulfilled in themselves. I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one. They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.
Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.
As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world.
And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth.
 

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You mis-understand the Promise of being 'Kept' by the LORD.

Numbers 6:24 is the FULL CONTEXT and FULFILLED PROMISE of the GOSPEL

“Whatever I tell you in the dark, speak in the light; and what you hear in the ear, preach on the housetops.
And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Are not two sparrows sold for a copper coin? And not one of them falls to the ground apart from your Father’s will. But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
Do not fear therefore; you are of more value than many sparrows.

“I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word. Now they have known that all things which You have given Me are from You. For I have given to them the words which You have given Me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came forth from You; and they have believed that You sent Me.

“I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours. And all Mine are Yours, and Yours are Mine, and I am glorified in them.
Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You.
Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are.
While I was with them in the world, I kept them in Your name.
Those whom You gave Me I have kept; and none of them is lost except the son of perdition, that the Scripture might be fulfilled. But now I come to You, and these things I speak in the world, that they may have My joy fulfilled in themselves. I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one. They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.
Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.
As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world.
And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth.
You're quoting Numbers 6 out of context, because you want it applied for the Philadelphia Church but can't give a reason why it can't be applied to the Smyrna Church.
 

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You're quoting Numbers 6 out of context, because you want it applied for the Philadelphia Church but can't give a reason why it can't be applied to the Smyrna Church.
You do not understand Genesis, Moses, the Prophets, the GOSPEL, the Apostles and finally Revelation, therefore do not understand the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE.

i suggest you begin reading/praying the Gospel of John before the LORD and wait on HIM
 

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You do not understand Genesis, Moses, the Prophets, the GOSPEL, the Apostles and finally Revelation, therefore do not understand the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE.

i suggest you begin reading/praying the Gospel of John before the LORD and wait on HIM
So, I'm the one who doesn't understand the scriptures (because you can't deceive me)? Have a good day to you!